Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

Sandman6472

We do once a year since we don't put that many miles on. I usually do 3K/year while the wife, 6K/year. Since mine is more severe driving, think I'm o k where I'm at. My trips really aren't that long but that's just the way things have worked out these past 5 or so years. Might be taking it up to St. Augustine in December if the kid does buy a house. Wife is going up Monday for 6 days and their going to look & make a decision about her housing. If she does purchase, just means that we're definitely going to move so prudent that I go up and start our search for a new casa. She's concentrating on St. Augustine & South Jacksonville as she now works at a hospital in South Jacksonville. If she decides to rent for one more year, she'll just stay where she is as she's got her dog walkers all set and Stan seems to really like them. Once we do in fact move there, I'll become the new dog walker when she's at work. And in the beginning, we'll be bunking at her place until ours is ready. She's been pushing for us all to live together so that could be what happens. Depending on what kind of houses they find, it could definitely work. Share a kitchen and common area but have a separate in-law suite so we'd all have our privacy. Think that would work the best for Stan, so we shall see what they find. This all just means that I need to ramp up my purging of stuff I no longer need.

roadburner

@benjaminh said:
These two popular youtube guys, who both have a lot of experience, say that engine oil should be changed at 5k/6 months for non-turbo engines and at around 3k for turbo engines. They talk about this for the first nine minutes of this video. They both admit that oil analysis seems to show that oil is often ok way past their recommendations, but then more or less dismiss that. They say frequent oil changes are not that expensive, which is more or less true, but changing at their intervals does add up over time, and for me more importantly every time I go in for an oil change at my Acura dealer I have to deal with their upsell, and filter out what's needed and what's not. Plus I do think that the Honda/Acura engineers knew what they were doing when they created their maintenance minder system, and even built in a margin or error as seen in the test above where the oil was still good in a Honda Pilot after almost 10,000 miles. The title of this specific video, which is about the unrealistic case of keeping your car for a lifetime, reveals part of how they are looking at this. My Acura is now 7.5 years old and has around 94,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep it, but there's a good chance I might try for going over 150k...I did change the trans fluid at 50k and plan to do it again the next visit, which is twice as often as Acura recommends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQY_ci3JZI&t=2269s

Yes- let’s just dismiss any data that contradicts our 50 year old OCI philosophy.
Hacks.

@stickguy said:
From watching a lot of repair videos the big issue seems to be sludge and gunk. Not sure how the correlates to oil analysis. Meaning can it test out ok at high miles intervals but still be causing issues.

Turbos and DI seem to make the issues worse. And it’s a big problem with so many cars having oil based VVT type systems.

What’s the point of UOAs if they don’t detect factors that impact engine longevity?
All I know is that I ran the MS3 to nearly 160k miles with no issues and the X3 past 200k miles with no issues- and in both cases the UOAs were stellar. Then there’s my son’s E90 at 108k miles. It saw a minimum OCI of 15k miles using BMW TPT 5W-30- which according to the YT “experts” should have expired long ago:

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

@benjaminh said:

These two popular youtube guys, who both have a lot of experience, say that engine oil should be changed at 5k/6 months for non-turbo engines and at around 3k for turbo engines. They talk about this for the first nine minutes of this video. They both admit that oil analysis seems to show that oil is often ok way past their recommendations, but then more or less dismiss that. They say frequent oil changes are not that expensive, which is more or less true, but changing at their intervals does add up over time, and for me more importantly every time I go in for an oil change at my Acura dealer I have to deal with their upsell, and filter out what's needed and what's not. Plus I do think that the Honda/Acura engineers knew what they were doing when they created their maintenance minder system, and even built in a margin or error as seen in the test above where the oil was still good in a Honda Pilot after almost 10,000 miles. The title of this specific video, which is about the unrealistic case of keeping your car for a lifetime, reveals part of how they are looking at this. My Acura is now 7.5 years old and has around 94,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep it, but there's a good chance I might try for going over 150k...I did change the trans fluid at 50k and plan to do it again the next visit, which is twice as often as Acura recommends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQY_ci3JZI&t=2269s

Yes- let’s just dismiss any data that contradicts our 50 year old OCI philosophy.

Hacks.

@stickguy said:

From watching a lot of repair videos the big issue seems to be sludge and gunk. Not sure how the correlates to oil analysis. Meaning can it test out ok at high miles intervals but still be causing issues.

Turbos and DI seem to make the issues worse. And it’s a big problem with so many cars having oil based VVT type systems.

What’s the point of UOAs if they don’t detect factors that impact engine longevity?

All I know is that I ran the MS3 to nearly 160k miles with no issues and the X3 past 200k miles with no issues- and in both cases the UOAs were stellar. Then there’s my son’s E90 at 108k miles. It saw a minimum OCI of 15k miles using BMW TPT 5W-30- which according to the YT “experts” should have expired long ago:

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if I had a vested interest in selling oil, I’d recommend more frequent oil changes too. If your car needs an oil change more frequently than 7,500 miles, you have the wrong car, you’re using the wrong oil, the wrong filter or all three.

jmonroe