Where are they supposed to get a half trillion more?? I thought the congress was supposed to cut a trillion and a half by December.......Maybe we better get ready to pay alot more taxes, and also prepare for a sharp decline in our wealth, as I don`t see any safe heaven in anything and no one seems to realize inflation is gathering ..If you fix your house , at least you would be comfortable Tony
I just don't see it being a real reaction to him. IMO, he's not that powerful, and anything he says or does is just what his corporate controllers want. The top few are making money hand over fist in this malaise time, and no politician is independent.
I don't see the situation being any different or better had the others won a few years ago.
I predominately agree with you, but I do wonder what would have happened if John McCain had won the presidency?? He has way and above enough wealth to be his own man, and alot of political savvy....In fact i think he might be a winner right now , if he feels up to running....In fact I would take a chance with him over Obama, but not what the Republicans are offering me now..
For me it is a shame not to be overwhelmed with a joint session of congress....I watched them , and it looked to me that they were all congratulating themselves with a `job well done`......I`m sorry I have lost my spirit. Hopefully it will come back after I pay alot more taxes ...Tony
I posted a long detailed list of differences between McCain and Obama.
I ended up with a very long list of problems... many of which have been caused by Obama. Many of which have been made worse by Obama.
I started to express hatred towards Obama and was posting in a manner that I decided was best if I just deleted it. My apologies.
After THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS, he FINALLY coughed up a jobs plan yesterday!!!!! It's a disastrous plan. And it is no wonder it comes at this point in time... it's nothing more than a political campaign gimmick.
It was a campaign speech, meant to invigorate part of his base that wanted him to "get tough."
He's running against Congress. My son tells me that doesn't work.
He's spending, spending, spending, in order to increase the GDP I read. That will keep the recession predictor from indicating the recession we're back into.
Not only is he spending another stimulus package, he's lying once again about how it would be paid for. Funny accounting alert again. Calling things as savings that have already been called as savings elsewhere.
And last but not least, he's raising taxes. Whether it's by eliminating loopholes or just raising them. He's trying to say it's taxes on those rich people we all are supposed to hate (including the rich Democrats in BO's own party). But most of us realize, the middle class pays a lot of taxes and that increase is going to hit them. And there are a lot more of them, so a little tax here and a little tax there, and they'll never realize it was they who paid the most instead of those awful rich folk BO demagogues.
These are frustrating times for us all.....I was told verbally about the depression, and was warned to be careful if the markets globally began to go down together
This sort of looks like a global mess, although the USA is in a stronger position than it was....As you know I have been an Obama supporter, so it is something for me to say ` I made a mistake`.....but I did......The magic is gone.....I don`t fault him totally, as some of his team is responsible, but they were not elected....
We are in the bad September month, and of course October follows....so after that period maybe we will be able to find investments vs trading? but who knows...
Sometimes a person has to just pull back from a crooked market, dominated with computers, and no regulatory authority doing it`s job....and frankly I don`t hold out too much hope for a Republican administration, as I don`t think they have a worthy candidate to begin with.....What we need is a viable leader....Tony
Nobody allowed to be president will refuse to bow to their special interest controllers, the ones making bank right now.
Had McCain won, we'd have an unstable flake (just IMHO of course ) a heartbeat away from the oval office. I don't know if markets or global treatment of American assets would embrace that one either. That being said, if he had been allowed to use a different running mate, I likely would have chosen him too.
Rather than impeaching a president who has little legit say in anything, we need to impeach the entire two party ideal, all of congress, and the lobbyist movement.
I don't like hopelessness. It is a terrible emotional place.
I have personally overcome some difficult challenges in my life... some in childhood, and some as an adult. So, I just can't stand it that we have this President that had the opportunity of a lifetime, and he didn't just take the ball and run... run fast and run far... for the sake of his fellow man and his country and the world in general.
I am literally shocked at how a man in Obama's shoes can fail so miserably when there is sooooo much potential to do so much good for so many.
It is tragic. And it sometimes feels hopeless... but I never give up. I do pray that the damage to America and the world is not so terrible that my kids (and the rest of America's youth) might never get the chance to live a quality life. I worry about that. So many are now in basic survival mode, as a huge percentage of America's kids go to bed hungry every night.
Too many jobs are gone. Many of those jobs are overseas, taken thete by "American" corporations that pay less labor and pay no taxes. Many jobs here at home have been given to illegal aliens. It's all nuts. Driven by greed. Greedy and corrupt corporations, banks, and the government as a partner.
We the people are viewed as nothing more than a source of tax revenues and as consumers... and a source of military personnel, willing to defend the corruption and greed.
It's tragic that Obama has done NOTHING to improve a pitiful situation, and has made matters WORSE.
I really dislike the man, Obama... or any man honored with a position of serious responsibility (such as a father, or teacher, or pastor, or minister, or coach, or any corporate or political leader) that fails to live up to his responsibility, and betrays the trust.
Very thought provoking Mr Tag......I guess we all have to go through periods of despair, and I am discouraged right now....As you, I have had bad times, but also pulled out and went on, and frankly I am a blessed man....
The thing that irks me is the most is how Wall Street has entrenched the SEC and then made them `non responsive`.....consequently all the different products that skewer the market for the un-suspecting...
I certainly expected Obama to counteract that..
He further put the interests of Wall Street before the population, the same population that elected him......He did some, but nothing that he could have done and now we are all caught up in the world wide debacle ...We`l adjust and prosper, but it sure is black right now..
On another subject---The Shrimp are thick in the river, and my wife caught five gallons last night....A nice size to them..and further the crabs are plentiful also....Tony
>The thing that irks me is the most is how Wall Street has entrenched the SEC and then made them `non responsive`.....consequently all the different products that skewer the market for the un-suspecting... I certainly expected Obama to counteract that..
He has said one thing for public consumption which he does something else for his own personal political goals. His words were just words, just words on political fliers out of a copy machine. Hope and Change. No lobbyists. He pretended to fix the crooked side of Wall Street. Instead he just aided and abetted while taking their donation dollars. Transparency--he's had all those meetings off campus with lobbyists and donors.
Agree 100%. Obama is one of those politicians that you have to watch what is done, not what is said. Everything he says sounds great. Everything he does is killing us.
That is basically why I have lost `heart` with him.......
Although I surely pay my FULL share of taxes, I do not mind paying more if they would use the extra to fix the country`s huge deficit.....Our currency is buying less and less, by a sizable percentage each year....All I hear are words, but no deeds....Just the other night `half a trillion` and I will tell you later how to pay for it.....What a joke on us..Tony
I am concerned about investing because of him. I'm meeting with my advisor for my retirement sheltered funds on Monday.
This guy just spends to try to get reelected. It was the Barack Obama's JOB Plan he proposed: it was only about his job, no one else's jobs. He wants to keep the spending up to try to ease the recession.
The real cost of this STIMULUS will be great in extra dollars printed. He has no method for paying for the costs. The cost of NOT collecting social security 2.5% will be paid by the general taxpayers in the future. That's like saying you're only paying half of your mortgage, because you hope to pay it off sooner. The Ponzi Scheme needs today's payments for today's checks.
We are at my brother in law's home in Long Beach Washington. We spent much of the evening discussing our retirement funds. Naturally Obama came up. I knew not to start any political discussions as they are hard core liberal academics. They brought up the subject and said they were not happy with their choice as President. They of course are upset with Obama for expanding our wars and giving so much money to bankers, wall street and mega corporations. So we had some common ground politically. Which is rare for us. They are as frustrated with government as we are. I don't think they understand that big government is the problem. Though they do believe there is too much waste and the public sector Unions are a big part of the problem. I think they really believed the Stimulus would create jobs. They do not believe more will help. So both sides of the political spectrum seem to be unhappy with Obama, the Democrats and the Republicans. The answer, vote em all out every election. End career politics.
> they are hard core liberal academics. They brought up the subject and said they were not happy with their choice as President.
Rush and others indicate that the White House's actions the last many months indicate that internal polling tells them BO, or whichever name he goes by these days, knows he has lost the middle ground. These people are likely in that population.
Personally, I'm writing to my Senator to complain about what he has done to the economy through his 4 years of blindly doing the Democrat spend trick. He was quick to send out an email when the petroleum reserves were tapped to cause a 1 week drop in oil prices. But he wouldn't even respond to emails or contacts for 3 years with an answer: he sent blanket responses instead.
Now he's up for reelection. And he started sending newsletters and responding to questions with a more direct answer. But it's too late for many of us. The challengers in Ohio don't seem terribly strong. But if many of the representatives and senators start getting "ownership" for Obama's runaway spending the last 3 years slammed on them by their constituents, there may be more pressure on the WH to change.
I see that as the only salvation for the economy until someone else is elected in 2012 or 2016. Otherwise it's going to be the Democrat tax and spend, or spend and tax to pay for it later in this case.
I see that as the only salvation for the economy until someone else is elected in 2012 or 2016.
2012, I pray.
I am VERY interested to see just what the "super-committee" of 12 comes up with. I think it will tell us whether the committee is a total joke, or whether is is going to be a rubber stamp for the president, or whether it will be locked in uncompromising battle... or whether somehow there will be something good come out of it, which I highly doubt.
Whatever the super-committee finally comes up with, I"ll be shocked if it is anything truly beneficial. My guess is that they will have Obama's "jobs plan" to deal with and it will be an obstacle and a distraction from getting anything actually accomplished. Something watered down might emerge, and then we'll have more wasted time and energy... and if they don't accomplish enough, the next round of deficit crisis could be upon us before too long. Another downgrade ahead?
But, with the election looming, both parties need to appear as if they can accomplish something and battle strategically in order to take the credit for anything positive that might emerge, and then pass the blame for all the unsolved mountain of problems.
IMO, the 2012 election will be about voting for who is perceived as the lesser of evils... sound familiar?
Spending to create jobs is a good thing, isn't it? In theory, this action should pay for itself in a couple of ways, increased tax revenue (income taxes, sales taxes), and reduced other spendings to support the unemployed. GDP would grow, and business would invest more etc... All this should also benefit the stock markets. This spending won't completely pay for itself right a way, but I think it is a wise thing to do.
Yes, it should work if that is really what the money is used for. In the first round, Obama just used the money for political payback to the unions and banksters...and it sounds like he is ready to do it again.
In general, the members of this board seem to "get it". I hope we are representative of the entire voting public.
Nothing good coming out of Washington ---just more of the same --spend --spend---and now more taxes if the `tea party` lets them.....
I spoke to a good friend today , who goes to N Y and has a bunch of `very` liberal very rich friend...He reported that they did not mind a higher tax if it were to be used properly, and further that they did not mind even not being paid their Social Security, as they did not need it , although they paid for it....Tony
I would not mind either if I was very, very rich !!
Unfortunately, Washington is a bottomless pit. The more they get the more they waste. They could confiscate all the personal wealth of the top 1% and it would not make a dent. The big money tax wise comes from the middle class.
Nice turn around in the market today. Made my day.
I spoke to a good friend today , who goes to N Y and has a bunch of `very` liberal very rich friend...He reported that they did not mind a higher tax if it were to be used properly, and further that they did not mind even not being paid their Social Security, as they did not need it , although they paid for it.
Tony,
I don't think that a bump in income taxes has ever been a very big issue with the "VERY" rich. It's just a hiccup to them, and life goes on as usual.
It's been more about the increase that Obama wants to put on some of the hardest-working members of the middle class... making $250,000... and many of whom own businesses that are already overly-burdened, and will be forced to deal with Obama-care on top of all the other ridiculous costs of running a business.
Obama's whole attitude against business is a big issue, and also the way he pokes at the "millionaires and billionaires", "the fat cats", "flying around in their corporate jets". Very sarcastic words from the president... but then what does he REALLY do? He targets those making $250K!!
Since when are folks making $250K "fat cats", or "millionaires and billionaires"? Since when do those folks fly around in corporate jets? Obama always says one thing, but then he always turns to his REAL AGENDA.
In California and much of the East Coast, $250K is barely enough to get by. Obama has twisted the definition of "wealthy" to include some of the hardest-working members of the middle class. And the real kicker is that those folks ALREADY PAY THE MOST income tax in the USA.
Over half of the workers pay ZERO... and they are the ones he wants to vote for him to get him re-elected. The difference between Obama and Robin Hood is that Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. Obama likes to steal from the middle class, crush businesses, and give entitlements to anyone that will vote for him.
Let's face it... the TRULY wealthy have nothing to worry about. But, the hard-working folks and small-business owners have everything to worry about! And many of the rest of the folks don't quite realize that they should also be very worried because they are headed towards becoming more and more dependent upon a bigger and bigger government.
Does anyone here think $250K is equivalent to "wealthy"? "Fat cats"? "Flying around in corporate jets"?
Does anyone here think Obama-care is good for business?
Does anyone here think we need to print even MORE money? Especially now that we've seen the clearest proof that it doesn't create jobs!
Does anyone here think that the size of government should grow, and require even MORE revenues?
Does anyone here think the government should spend a gazillion extra dollars to stimulate the economy when we already know it doesn't work, and it just makes the deficit larger and larger?
Perhaps an alternative could be to give a massive tax cut instead of an increase... we'd still have a deficit, but it would actually stimulate the economy, and then the revenues would actually start to improve as the increase in employment would create more taxpayers.
Heck, that's too simple for Obama to understand. Besides, that wouldn't let him "redistribute the wealth" out of the middle class.
Heck, that's too simple for Obama to understand. Besides, that wouldn't let him "redistribute the wealth" out of the middle class.
You have pegged Obama to a "T".
I don't believe going after the RICH was ever considered by Obama. Those are the folks that pay for the TV ads to reach the Leeches on welfare that are his voting base. He knows that raising taxes on those over $1 million a year would not raise enough to finance his get out the vote campaign. When you tell someone on welfare that they are going to get some of the rich folks money, they consider anyone making more than themselves rich. My guess is everyone on this forum are victims of Obama's failed policies.
Solyndra collapsed two weeks ago, leaving taxpayers liable for the $535 million loan.
One e-mail from an OMB official referred to “the time pressure we are under to sign-off on Solyndra.” Another complained, “There isn’t time to negotiate.”
“We have ended up with a situation of having to do rushed approvals on a couple of occasions (and we are worried about Solyndra at the end of the week),” one official wrote. That Aug. 31, 2009, message, written by a senior OMB staffer and sent to Terrell P. McSweeny, Biden’s domestic policy adviser, concluded, “We would prefer to have sufficient time to do our due diligence reviews.”
White House officials said Tuesday that no one in the administration tried to influence the OMB decision on the loan. They stressed that the e-mails show only that the administration had a “quite active interest” in the timing of OMB’s decision.
“There was interest in when a decision would be made because of its impact on whether an event involving the vice president could be scheduled for a particular date or not, but the loan guarantee decision was merit-based and made by career staffers at DOE,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz said.
Solyndra spokesman David Miller said he was unaware of any direct involvement of the White House in securing or accelerating the loan.
The e-mail exchanges could intensify questions about whether the administration was playing favorites and made costly errors while choosing the first recipient of a loan guarantee under its stimulus program. Solyndra’s biggest investors were funds operated on behalf of the family foundation of Tulsa billionaire and Obama fundraiser George Kaiser. Although he has been a frequent White House visitor, Kaiser has said he did not use political influence to win approval of the loan.
In one e-mail, an assistant to Rahm Emanuel, then White House chief of staff, wrote on Aug. 31, 2009, to OMB about the upcoming Biden announcement on Solyndra and asked whether “there is anything we can help speed along on OMB side.”
An OMB staff member responded: “I would prefer that this announcement be postponed. . . . This is the first loan guarantee and we should have full review with all hands on deck to make sure we get it right.”
Haven`t heard from you lately I got the ipad yesterday, and I am feeling my way along....It is very intuitive .and as the last time I purchased an Apple product I also purchased the stock for a quick hit, that then paid for the macBook Pro I did the same today, and plan on holding it for a while....It`s looking good--both the product and the stock:) Stay in touch, and just because I changed my perspective on Obama, I haven`t changed on you Tony
Hi Tony! I have been minding my own business here in Akron, OH (visiting my daughter and here family once again). It has been wonderful.
I am really tired of the political discussions here, so I have not been commenting at all. A lot of people have changed their perspective on Obama so no, I do not think any less of you than before. You are a very caring person. Some are taking this Obama stuff much too far in my opinion, however. That is all I am going to say about it.
Wow! Congratulations on your purchase of the iPad2. I am waiting for the iPad3 before I pull the trigger. As I have previously stated many times, owning AAPL is better than owning gold in my opinion. I don't see how this stock will not at least reach $500 in the not too distant future and $600 in 2012. I imagine the next earnings report will take it to at least $460. I have done very little trading in stocks the past several weeks. I have kept all my "good" stocks for the long haul. I am living a fairly stress-free life these days.
You and I couldn't possibly be more on the same page about Obama. The guy pleads a jobs bill and then underneath it puts in the very tax increases against the income level he needs to create real jobs. Once again expansion of government, this time creating jobs for projects that will be temporary in nature while penalizing the development of jobs from an income group that will make them much more permanent under the right economic guidance from a President.
Different topic - but watched the 9/11 special that DeNiro hosted the other day and re-watching/re-living that mornings events were so upsetting I couldn't sleep. After revisiting this act of war and hearing one of the firemen at the command post in the WTC that morning saying "we need to get the military involved" I said to my wife: "can you imagine Obama wanted to treat this as a civil court case"? It shows you how shortsighted our President is or how easily influenced he is by others.
You and I couldn't possibly be more on the same page about Obama.
Len,
Over the years, I think it's safe to say that we know each other well enough to feel very confident that our political views are nearly identical.
In fact, many of our perspectives of life itself seem to be quite similar. I also had the experience of watching one of the 9/11 special broadcasts, and I honestly found myself with some tears leaking out more than once. I also could not sleep that night. That's the truth.
I remember the very moment it happened. I was watching TV and saw the events as they unfolded. I remember it clear as a bell. I was still enjoying those good days in my Northern California Estate, and I was watching the TV in the master bathroom as I was shaving. My wife was nearby and she asked what was happening, and I told her that there was a terrible accident and a commercial jet had somehow flown right into one of the World Trade Center towers. It did not occur to me initially that it could have been anything other than an accident... but once the second jet hit, I knew that our United States of America was under attack on our own soil, and there was no way to know what was going to happen next. And, of course, the Pentagon was hit, an then they were expecting the White House or Capitol Bldg to be next, and I was just like everyone else... horrified and so terribly concerned, and filled with a million questions and no answers. The world, and each and every one of us, changed that day.
Some years went by, and then our world was rocked again, but in a different way, as the financial crisis hit and we were all thrust into an economic meltdown unlike anything since the Great Depression. I will never get over that... never. And frankly, since then, nothing has quite been the same.
When I was a little kid, I experienced the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we were told that the Cubans and Russions were going to deploy nuclear weapons against us. I had seen a graphic video of what a nuclear detonation is all about, and I will never get those horrific images out of my head. I then experienced the assassination of President Kennedy. Talk about shattering the mind of a kid. I have to believe that 9/11 was tough on kids, and the economic meltdown was also tough on kids, especially those that lost their homes or one or both of their parents lost their jobs.
Kids dont' forget traumatic stuff... and then before you know it, they're all grown up... permanently affected and never forgetting what happened, and then having to face a whole new round of insanity, and then another and another.
We're all in the same boat, and it sure ain't always the love boat... but we try nonetheless... it's in our spirit and our nature to rise above it.
I'll never forget that morning. I had a 10:30 meeting on 8th and Broadway so I left late from the bus at 8:30. As we crossed the Raritan bay on the Garden State Pkwy just after 9 I saw a hint of smoke out of my eye but it's a commercial area and I attributed it to a smokestack. But as we got on the NJ Turnpike it became very clear what it was and the rumors of the small plane were underway. I said to the folks near me that's no small plane. It was then that we heard the second tower was hit and folks on the bus started panicking. Nearly everyone wanted the bus driver to return home but he was undecisive. Traffic was very heavy that morning and we we were just staring at the Towers in flames though you could only see one most of the time. There were actually a few people that wanted to continue into the city. Traffic broke up as we approached Newark airport and just at that time the bus driver was made aware of the lockdown in NYC and he turned off at the airport to return south to the bus stop we got on at. As he did all of us saw the tarmac at Newark and it had folks who had gotten off planes walking around and planes posited in all different positions just stopped as if someone had stopped time. They now knew one of the planes had originated in Newark. As we came further south and exitted back to the Garden State Pkwy the guy next to me (who was the only one that still had cell service so he was attuned to the news via conversation with someone) told me another report about the Pentagon. I said to him we are at war with somebody unconventional. He knew about the hi-jackings via the cell and for some reason from the way he explained it I thought the planes were hi-jacked right from the tarmac with no one on-board. This initially made sense because no commercial pilot would fly a plane into the TWC even with a gun pressed against his head. But then he clarified and told me they think they were hi-jacked in mid-air well into their flights and I looked at him and said "you mean there were crew and people on those flights?". It was then that I remembered reading in the NY Times about the Pacific hi-jacking plan of Quaeda with trained pilots and it made sense what happened. When I arrived back at my car I turned on the radio just in time to hear a WINS reporter and about 15 seconds into the broadcast she started literally crying as the first tower came down. The guy in the studio she was reporting to was so shocked he didn't know what to say. When I got home they were reporting about a dozen planes unaccounted for and I then heard a large plane flying very low over my house. This really scared me because we have the Earle naval weapons station about 7 miles south of us and who knew if that wasn't another target. Never found out what it was but likely a plane from further SW - McGuires AFB. My wife had taken her father to the doctor earlier that morning and all of a sudden not being near your loved ones was scary especially with cell phone coverage failing. Luckily one by one they started accounting for each missing plane till there was none. I've read in the NY Times in a thorough physics analsis that the second tower when it was hit was hit with so much force that the building was a fraction of energy away from collapsing completely on impact. If that had happened the death toll would have been much higher. That same story said that the second plane was flying so fast at such a low altitude that it was just about ready to break-up and disintegrate when it hit the towers.
On that fateful day, I was at my office with a few others when we heard on the news that a "small" plane had smashed into the World Trade Tower. We immediately turned on the TV to CNN and we watched in horror as a few minutes later a jet place smashed into the second tower. We could not believe what we were seeing. We were getting more horrified/scared by the minute as we were learning of other targets as well.
We found out weeks later that one of our customers (Steve Goldstein, who was associated with Canter Fitzgerald) was killed in one of the towers. I still cannot believe this horrific act actually occurred.
Time for the Feds to get out of the Jobs creating business. Almost a $trillion wasted and NOTHING to show for it. Worse unemployment than when the law was passed. What few jobs were created cost $millions each. Such as Johnson Controls battery factory. Cut corporate taxes and it will start the recovery. Go ahead and raise taxes on the Billionaires if they are so naive to think they can find the money.
Time to indict some of Obama's Crony Capitalist buddies.
Like I've been saying, Obama should have cut taxes, significantly. He and his cohorts always claim we can't afford to cut taxes, but in real life, their "spend-a-ton-of-money stimulus programs" wasted more money than the potential costs of a tax cut.
And, of course, a significant tax-cut would have stimulated the economy while the massive "spend-a-ton-of-money stimulus programs" have proven that they don't really work at all.
Like I've been saying... he's an idiot.
One more reason he's an idiot is that we've got enough natural gas to become energy-independent practically overnight, yet he has a personal "dislike" for fossil fuels. Clean natural gas would be an easy transition in our society because most gasoline-operated equipment and machinery can operate on natural gas. The changes to our infrastructure would be minimum, and well worth it.
It is really difficult to tell how bright Obama is. Keeping his college records sealed makes it difficult. I think he has surrounded himself with people all having their own agenda. Obama does not seem to have any clear direction. Other than his silly health care for all agenda. What worries me most is his ties to billionaires and Mega corporations. These are not people that want to see the small business people survive. They are the elitist that believe in complete control coming from a central point. The academics also fall into that category, believing we the people are not smart enough to take care of ourselves. If I was defining it, the closest I could come is Capitalistic Marxism. Just an example is his relationship to the CEOs of GE and ComCast. I don't see GE too worried about corporate tax rates. They have managed to make $billions under the Obama regime without paying a penny in corporate tax. Not too mention $millions in subsidies they have garnered under the "Green Energy Umbrella". Closest I can tell is Obama is merely a puppet that is having a good ride. Taking the wife & kids on vacations he could never afford before be tossed into the limelight. Bowing to kings, queens and dictators while deriding our country around the world. He has done more to diminish the Presidency than anyone ever.
It is really difficult to tell how bright Obama is.
Well, after three years... the nature of many of his decisions and remarks, as well as the genuine state of conditions is enough to make anyone question just how much brainpower he is carrying around in that thick skull of his.
Maybe it's best to just say he is an intelligent fool. I really don't know how to make sense out of it. Some even say that, by definition, he is insane - (doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results), and the media has picked up on this recently.
But, it's certainly clear that he is not equipped to be president.
He'd probably make a good golfing/basketball buddy... maybe... because I tend to doubt that he'd have good sportsmanship.
It has long been a pet theory of mine that sociopaths have something that has gone haywire in their brain that prevents a certain part of their personality from progressing beyond the level of a 2 year old. Just think of all the selfishness, lack of a conscience, and other bizarre behavior this would explain.
Obama has proposed another Stimulus package, 3/4 the size of his first one.
And it's all shovel-ready projects just like the first one. He has all these infrastructure spending plans from public money to his UNION friends in the construction trades. They are still busy from the delayed effect of the small portion of the FIRST STIMULUS which was for infrastructure and unions.
Stimulus and shovel-ready. Hope and Change. That didn't work, even with the media trying to help him.
Now we have "Be very afraid" as the motto. Be afraid of the Brent Spence Bridge in Cincinnati (Covington KY). It may show a flaw from all the use is the FEAR message. The I-35 bridge in Minnesota had a bad structural design. That's why it broke. The bridge in Louisville shows a flaw from the quality of metal used in it.
But the Brent Spence has neither of those.
But it's in the area and Boehner (Ohio) and the Senator McConnel from KY, so he thinks disrupting city traffic for another campaign stop at the Brent Spence will help people pressure their Congressman. The bridge already has funding started for the replacement. Barry will try to take credit for that. I'm wondering where they'll set up their campaign stop to have the Brent Spence as a the background for the photo opportunity.
Some people have to be seeing through the lack of transparency offered by this guy, the lack of real job experience at governing, the lack of real world business and economy understand, and all. All the broken campaign promises from the copy machine last time. The campaign is being so careful to avoid "stimulus," "shovel-ready," and the other campaign slogans for this round of spending.
Are things going to go downhill during all this turmoil as he tries to manipulate the politics and the dollar$ to get reelected? My annuity advisor thinks so, from what he recommended when I met with him this week.
Indeed. And the process has been in the works already, BO (before Obama.)
I was laughing the other day because someone said the bridge is upside down. The northbound traffic should have been on the upper level rather than underneath in a tunnel of steel girders. That way the Cincinnati skyline (not Skyline Chili) would be visible to the traffic.
And the Mayor Mallory (of Undercover Boss notoriety) is out there pumping for the bridge. He's also pumping for the governm't subsidy for the downtown to Upper Vine area trolley (railroad) system that's now a near downtown trolly plan. He doesn't seem to understand the Governor killed that.
At this rate we could end up with the BO Bridge as the name!
I was with a banker yesterday, and in the course of the afternoon, he said something , that we all should take to heart------ten percent are un employed, ninety percent are employed and seventy percent of the employed are making more money than they ever have----Just something to keep in the back of your head, less by chance you fall out of the favorable percentage Tony
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I don't see the situation being any different or better had the others won a few years ago.
For me it is a shame not to be overwhelmed with a joint session of congress....I watched them , and it looked to me that they were all congratulating themselves with a `job well done`......I`m sorry I have lost my spirit. Hopefully it will come back after I pay alot more taxes
I deleted my first reply to you.
I posted a long detailed list of differences between McCain and Obama.
I ended up with a very long list of problems... many of which have been caused by Obama. Many of which have been made worse by Obama.
I started to express hatred towards Obama and was posting in a manner that I decided was best if I just deleted it. My apologies.
After THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS, THREE YEARS, he FINALLY coughed up a jobs plan yesterday!!!!! It's a disastrous plan. And it is no wonder it comes at this point in time... it's nothing more than a political campaign gimmick.
Impeach Obama. Please.
TM
He's running against Congress. My son tells me that doesn't work.
He's spending, spending, spending, in order to increase the GDP I read. That will keep the recession predictor from indicating the recession we're back into.
Not only is he spending another stimulus package, he's lying once again about how it would be paid for. Funny accounting alert again. Calling things as savings that have already been called as savings elsewhere.
And last but not least, he's raising taxes. Whether it's by eliminating loopholes or just raising them. He's trying to say it's taxes on those rich people we all are supposed to hate (including the rich Democrats in BO's own party). But most of us realize, the middle class pays a lot of taxes and that increase is going to hit them. And there are a lot more of them, so a little tax here and a little tax there, and they'll never realize it was they who paid the most instead of those awful rich folk BO demagogues.
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This sort of looks like a global mess, although the USA is in a stronger position than it was....As you know I have been an Obama supporter, so it is something for me to say ` I made a mistake`.....but I did......The magic is gone.....I don`t fault him totally, as some of his team is responsible, but they were not elected....
We are in the bad September month, and of course October follows....so after that period maybe we will be able to find investments vs trading? but who knows...
Sometimes a person has to just pull back from a crooked market, dominated with computers, and no regulatory authority doing it`s job....and frankly I don`t hold out too much hope for a Republican administration, as I don`t think they have a worthy candidate to begin with.....What we need is a viable leader....Tony
Had McCain won, we'd have an unstable flake (just IMHO of course
Rather than impeaching a president who has little legit say in anything, we need to impeach the entire two party ideal, all of congress, and the lobbyist movement.
I don't like hopelessness. It is a terrible emotional place.
I have personally overcome some difficult challenges in my life... some in childhood, and some as an adult. So, I just can't stand it that we have this President that had the opportunity of a lifetime, and he didn't just take the ball and run... run fast and run far... for the sake of his fellow man and his country and the world in general.
I am literally shocked at how a man in Obama's shoes can fail so miserably when there is sooooo much potential to do so much good for so many.
It is tragic. And it sometimes feels hopeless... but I never give up. I do pray that the damage to America and the world is not so terrible that my kids (and the rest of America's youth) might never get the chance to live a quality life. I worry about that. So many are now in basic survival mode, as a huge percentage of America's kids go to bed hungry every night.
Too many jobs are gone. Many of those jobs are overseas, taken thete by "American" corporations that pay less labor and pay no taxes. Many jobs here at home have been given to illegal aliens. It's all nuts. Driven by greed. Greedy and corrupt corporations, banks, and the government as a partner.
We the people are viewed as nothing more than a source of tax revenues and as consumers... and a source of military personnel, willing to defend the corruption and greed.
It's tragic that Obama has done NOTHING to improve a pitiful situation, and has made matters WORSE.
I really dislike the man, Obama... or any man honored with a position of serious responsibility (such as a father, or teacher, or pastor, or minister, or coach, or any corporate or political leader) that fails to live up to his responsibility, and betrays the trust.
TM
The thing that irks me is the most is how Wall Street has entrenched the SEC and then made them `non responsive`.....consequently all the different products that skewer the market for the un-suspecting...
I certainly expected Obama to counteract that..
He further put the interests of Wall Street before the population, the same population that elected him......He did some, but nothing that he could have done and now we are all caught up in the world wide debacle ...We`l adjust and prosper, but it sure is black right now..
On another subject---The Shrimp are thick in the river, and my wife caught five gallons last night....A nice size to them..and further the crabs are plentiful also....Tony
I certainly expected Obama to counteract that..
He has said one thing for public consumption which he does something else for his own personal political goals. His words were just words, just words on political fliers out of a copy machine. Hope and Change. No lobbyists. He pretended to fix the crooked side of Wall Street. Instead he just aided and abetted while taking their donation dollars. Transparency--he's had all those meetings off campus with lobbyists and donors.
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Although I surely pay my FULL share of taxes, I do not mind paying more if they would use the extra to fix the country`s huge deficit.....Our currency is buying less and less, by a sizable percentage each year....All I hear are words, but no deeds....Just the other night `half a trillion` and I will tell you later how to pay for it.....What a joke on us..Tony
This guy just spends to try to get reelected. It was the Barack Obama's JOB Plan he proposed: it was only about his job, no one else's jobs. He wants to keep the spending up to try to ease the recession.
The real cost of this STIMULUS will be great in extra dollars printed. He has no method for paying for the costs. The cost of NOT collecting social security 2.5% will be paid by the general taxpayers in the future. That's like saying you're only paying half of your mortgage, because you hope to pay it off sooner. The Ponzi Scheme needs today's payments for today's checks.
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Rush and others indicate that the White House's actions the last many months indicate that internal polling tells them BO, or whichever name he goes by these days, knows he has lost the middle ground. These people are likely in that population.
Personally, I'm writing to my Senator to complain about what he has done to the economy through his 4 years of blindly doing the Democrat spend trick. He was quick to send out an email when the petroleum reserves were tapped to cause a 1 week drop in oil prices. But he wouldn't even respond to emails or contacts for 3 years with an answer: he sent blanket responses instead.
Now he's up for reelection. And he started sending newsletters and responding to questions with a more direct answer. But it's too late for many of us. The challengers in Ohio don't seem terribly strong. But if many of the representatives and senators start getting "ownership" for Obama's runaway spending the last 3 years slammed on them by their constituents, there may be more pressure on the WH to change.
I see that as the only salvation for the economy until someone else is elected in 2012 or 2016. Otherwise it's going to be the Democrat tax and spend, or spend and tax to pay for it later in this case.
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2012, I pray.
I am VERY interested to see just what the "super-committee" of 12 comes up with. I think it will tell us whether the committee is a total joke, or whether is is going to be a rubber stamp for the president, or whether it will be locked in uncompromising battle... or whether somehow there will be something good come out of it, which I highly doubt.
Whatever the super-committee finally comes up with, I"ll be shocked if it is anything truly beneficial. My guess is that they will have Obama's "jobs plan" to deal with and it will be an obstacle and a distraction from getting anything actually accomplished. Something watered down might emerge, and then we'll have more wasted time and energy... and if they don't accomplish enough, the next round of deficit crisis could be upon us before too long. Another downgrade ahead?
But, with the election looming, both parties need to appear as if they can accomplish something and battle strategically in order to take the credit for anything positive that might emerge, and then pass the blame for all the unsolved mountain of problems.
IMO, the 2012 election will be about voting for who is perceived as the lesser of evils... sound familiar?
TM
All this should also benefit the stock markets.
This spending won't completely pay for itself right a way, but I think it is a wise thing to do.
In general, the members of this board seem to "get it". I hope we are representative of the entire voting public.
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Frogs?
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I've got the impression from some posts that this is a bad spending item, that the US can't afford.
I spoke to a good friend today , who goes to N Y and has a bunch of `very` liberal very rich friend...He reported that they did not mind a higher tax if it were to be used properly, and further that they did not mind even not being paid their Social Security, as they did not need it , although they paid for it....Tony
Unfortunately, Washington is a bottomless pit. The more they get the more they waste. They could confiscate all the personal wealth of the top 1% and it would not make a dent. The big money tax wise comes from the middle class.
Nice turn around in the market today. Made my day.
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Tony,
I don't think that a bump in income taxes has ever been a very big issue with the "VERY" rich. It's just a hiccup to them, and life goes on as usual.
It's been more about the increase that Obama wants to put on some of the hardest-working members of the middle class... making $250,000... and many of whom own businesses that are already overly-burdened, and will be forced to deal with Obama-care on top of all the other ridiculous costs of running a business.
Obama's whole attitude against business is a big issue, and also the way he pokes at the "millionaires and billionaires", "the fat cats", "flying around in their corporate jets". Very sarcastic words from the president... but then what does he REALLY do? He targets those making $250K!!
Since when are folks making $250K "fat cats", or "millionaires and billionaires"? Since when do those folks fly around in corporate jets? Obama always says one thing, but then he always turns to his REAL AGENDA.
In California and much of the East Coast, $250K is barely enough to get by. Obama has twisted the definition of "wealthy" to include some of the hardest-working members of the middle class. And the real kicker is that those folks ALREADY PAY THE MOST income tax in the USA.
Over half of the workers pay ZERO... and they are the ones he wants to vote for him to get him re-elected. The difference between Obama and Robin Hood is that Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. Obama likes to steal from the middle class, crush businesses, and give entitlements to anyone that will vote for him.
Let's face it... the TRULY wealthy have nothing to worry about. But, the hard-working folks and small-business owners have everything to worry about! And many of the rest of the folks don't quite realize that they should also be very worried because they are headed towards becoming more and more dependent upon a bigger and bigger government.
Does anyone here think $250K is equivalent to "wealthy"? "Fat cats"? "Flying around in corporate jets"?
Does anyone here think Obama-care is good for business?
Does anyone here think we need to print even MORE money? Especially now that we've seen the clearest proof that it doesn't create jobs!
Does anyone here think that the size of government should grow, and require even MORE revenues?
Does anyone here think the government should spend a gazillion extra dollars to stimulate the economy when we already know it doesn't work, and it just makes the deficit larger and larger?
Perhaps an alternative could be to give a massive tax cut instead of an increase... we'd still have a deficit, but it would actually stimulate the economy, and then the revenues would actually start to improve as the increase in employment would create more taxpayers.
Heck, that's too simple for Obama to understand. Besides, that wouldn't let him "redistribute the wealth" out of the middle class.
TM
You have pegged Obama to a "T".
I don't believe going after the RICH was ever considered by Obama. Those are the folks that pay for the TV ads to reach the Leeches on welfare that are his voting base. He knows that raising taxes on those over $1 million a year would not raise enough to finance his get out the vote campaign. When you tell someone on welfare that they are going to get some of the rich folks money, they consider anyone making more than themselves rich. My guess is everyone on this forum are victims of Obama's failed policies.
QLIK looks good to me. I think its share price around $22, or under, is a good buy.
What's your opinion of QLIK right now?
I went ahead and bought 300 shares for now at $21.75, but would like to get your point-of-view, thanks.
TM
We'll see how it goes. If it goes down further, I can always buy more and bring the average share price down.
QLIK helped to make the trading day less boring.
TM
One e-mail from an OMB official referred to “the time pressure we are under to sign-off on Solyndra.” Another complained, “There isn’t time to negotiate.”
“We have ended up with a situation of having to do rushed approvals on a couple of occasions (and we are worried about Solyndra at the end of the week),” one official wrote. That Aug. 31, 2009, message, written by a senior OMB staffer and sent to Terrell P. McSweeny, Biden’s domestic policy adviser, concluded, “We would prefer to have sufficient time to do our due diligence reviews.”
White House officials said Tuesday that no one in the administration tried to influence the OMB decision on the loan. They stressed that the e-mails show only that the administration had a “quite active interest” in the timing of OMB’s decision.
“There was interest in when a decision would be made because of its impact on whether an event involving the vice president could be scheduled for a particular date or not, but the loan guarantee decision was merit-based and made by career staffers at DOE,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz said.
Solyndra spokesman David Miller said he was unaware of any direct involvement of the White House in securing or accelerating the loan.
The e-mail exchanges could intensify questions about whether the administration was playing favorites and made costly errors while choosing the first recipient of a loan guarantee under its stimulus program. Solyndra’s biggest investors were funds operated on behalf of the family foundation of Tulsa billionaire and Obama fundraiser George Kaiser. Although he has been a frequent White House visitor, Kaiser has said he did not use political influence to win approval of the loan.
In one e-mail, an assistant to Rahm Emanuel, then White House chief of staff, wrote on Aug. 31, 2009, to OMB about the upcoming Biden announcement on Solyndra and asked whether “there is anything we can help speed along on OMB side.”
An OMB staff member responded: “I would prefer that this announcement be postponed. . . . This is the first loan guarantee and we should have full review with all hands on deck to make sure we get it right.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-pushed-500-million-loan-to-so- lar-company-now-under-investigation/2011/09/13/gIQAr3WbQK_print.html
Someone should do prison time for that scam. Not to mention the 1200 people that lost their jobs.
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I'm leaving him a few more Foul Balls before he strikes out next year!! :shades:
Regards,
OW
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I am really tired of the political discussions here, so I have not been commenting at all. A lot of people have changed their perspective on Obama so no, I do not think any less of you than before. You are a very caring person. Some are taking this Obama stuff much too far in my opinion, however. That is all I am going to say about it.
Wow! Congratulations on your purchase of the iPad2. I am waiting for the iPad3 before I pull the trigger. As I have previously stated many times, owning AAPL is better than owning gold in my opinion. I don't see how this stock will not at least reach $500 in the not too distant future and $600 in 2012. I imagine the next earnings report will take it to at least $460. I have done very little trading in stocks the past several weeks. I have kept all my "good" stocks for the long haul. I am living a fairly stress-free life these days.
You and I couldn't possibly be more on the same page about Obama. The guy pleads a jobs bill and then underneath it puts in the very tax increases against the income level he needs to create real jobs. Once again expansion of government, this time creating jobs for projects that will be temporary in nature while penalizing the development of jobs from an income group that will make them much more permanent under the right economic guidance from a President.
Different topic - but watched the 9/11 special that DeNiro hosted the other day and re-watching/re-living that mornings events were so upsetting I couldn't sleep. After revisiting this act of war and hearing one of the firemen at the command post in the WTC that morning saying "we need to get the military involved" I said to my wife: "can you imagine Obama wanted to treat this as a civil court case"? It shows you how shortsighted our President is or how easily influenced he is by others.
Len,
Over the years, I think it's safe to say that we know each other well enough to feel very confident that our political views are nearly identical.
In fact, many of our perspectives of life itself seem to be quite similar. I also had the experience of watching one of the 9/11 special broadcasts, and I honestly found myself with some tears leaking out more than once. I also could not sleep that night. That's the truth.
I remember the very moment it happened. I was watching TV and saw the events as they unfolded. I remember it clear as a bell. I was still enjoying those good days in my Northern California Estate, and I was watching the TV in the master bathroom as I was shaving. My wife was nearby and she asked what was happening, and I told her that there was a terrible accident and a commercial jet had somehow flown right into one of the World Trade Center towers. It did not occur to me initially that it could have been anything other than an accident... but once the second jet hit, I knew that our United States of America was under attack on our own soil, and there was no way to know what was going to happen next. And, of course, the Pentagon was hit, an then they were expecting the White House or Capitol Bldg to be next, and I was just like everyone else... horrified and so terribly concerned, and filled with a million questions and no answers. The world, and each and every one of us, changed that day.
Some years went by, and then our world was rocked again, but in a different way, as the financial crisis hit and we were all thrust into an economic meltdown unlike anything since the Great Depression. I will never get over that... never. And frankly, since then, nothing has quite been the same.
When I was a little kid, I experienced the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we were told that the Cubans and Russions were going to deploy nuclear weapons against us. I had seen a graphic video of what a nuclear detonation is all about, and I will never get those horrific images out of my head. I then experienced the assassination of President Kennedy. Talk about shattering the mind of a kid. I have to believe that 9/11 was tough on kids, and the economic meltdown was also tough on kids, especially those that lost their homes or one or both of their parents lost their jobs.
Kids dont' forget traumatic stuff... and then before you know it, they're all grown up... permanently affected and never forgetting what happened, and then having to face a whole new round of insanity, and then another and another.
We're all in the same boat, and it sure ain't always the love boat... but we try nonetheless... it's in our spirit and our nature to rise above it.
TM
I'll never forget that morning. I had a 10:30 meeting on 8th and Broadway so I left late from the bus at 8:30. As we crossed the Raritan bay on the Garden State Pkwy just after 9 I saw a hint of smoke out of my eye but it's a commercial area and I attributed it to a smokestack. But as we got on the NJ Turnpike it became very clear what it was and the rumors of the small plane were underway. I said to the folks near me that's no small plane. It was then that we heard the second tower was hit and folks on the bus started panicking. Nearly everyone wanted the bus driver to return home but he was undecisive. Traffic was very heavy that morning and we we were just staring at the Towers in flames though you could only see one most of the time. There were actually a few people that wanted to continue into the city. Traffic broke up as we approached Newark airport and just at that time the bus driver was made aware of the lockdown in NYC and he turned off at the airport to return south to the bus stop we got on at. As he did all of us saw the tarmac at Newark and it had folks who had gotten off planes walking around and planes posited in all different positions just stopped as if someone had stopped time. They now knew one of the planes had originated in Newark. As we came further south and exitted back to the Garden State Pkwy the guy next to me (who was the only one that still had cell service so he was attuned to the news via conversation with someone) told me another report about the Pentagon. I said to him we are at war with somebody unconventional. He knew about the hi-jackings via the cell and for some reason from the way he explained it I thought the planes were hi-jacked right from the tarmac with no one on-board. This initially made sense because no commercial pilot would fly a plane into the TWC even with a gun pressed against his head. But then he clarified and told me they think they were hi-jacked in mid-air well into their flights and I looked at him and said "you mean there were crew and people on those flights?". It was then that I remembered reading in the NY Times about the Pacific hi-jacking plan of Quaeda with trained pilots and it made sense what happened. When I arrived back at my car I turned on the radio just in time to hear a WINS reporter and about 15 seconds into the broadcast she started literally crying as the first tower came down. The guy in the studio she was reporting to was so shocked he didn't know what to say. When I got home they were reporting about a dozen planes unaccounted for and I then heard a large plane flying very low over my house. This really scared me because we have the Earle naval weapons station about 7 miles south of us and who knew if that wasn't another target. Never found out what it was but likely a plane from further SW - McGuires AFB. My wife had taken her father to the doctor earlier that morning and all of a sudden not being near your loved ones was scary especially with cell phone coverage failing. Luckily one by one they started accounting for each missing plane till there was none. I've read in the NY Times in a thorough physics analsis that the second tower when it was hit was hit with so much force that the building was a fraction of energy away from collapsing completely on impact. If that had happened the death toll would have been much higher. That same story said that the second plane was flying so fast at such a low altitude that it was just about ready to break-up and disintegrate when it hit the towers.
We found out weeks later that one of our customers (Steve Goldstein, who was associated with Canter Fitzgerald) was killed in one of the towers. I still cannot believe this horrific act actually occurred.
Time to indict some of Obama's Crony Capitalist buddies.
And, of course, a significant tax-cut would have stimulated the economy while the massive "spend-a-ton-of-money stimulus programs" have proven that they don't really work at all.
Like I've been saying... he's an idiot.
One more reason he's an idiot is that we've got enough natural gas to become energy-independent practically overnight, yet he has a personal "dislike" for fossil fuels. Clean natural gas would be an easy transition in our society because most gasoline-operated equipment and machinery can operate on natural gas. The changes to our infrastructure would be minimum, and well worth it.
Yes, Obama is an idiot.
TM
Well, after three years... the nature of many of his decisions and remarks, as well as the genuine state of conditions is enough to make anyone question just how much brainpower he is carrying around in that thick skull of his.
Maybe it's best to just say he is an intelligent fool. I really don't know how to make sense out of it. Some even say that, by definition, he is insane - (doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results), and the media has picked up on this recently.
But, it's certainly clear that he is not equipped to be president.
He'd probably make a good golfing/basketball buddy... maybe... because I tend to doubt that he'd have good sportsmanship.
TM
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And it's all shovel-ready projects just like the first one. He has all these infrastructure spending plans from public money to his UNION friends in the construction trades. They are still busy from the delayed effect of the small portion of the FIRST STIMULUS which was for infrastructure and unions.
Stimulus and shovel-ready. Hope and Change. That didn't work, even with the media trying to help him.
Now we have "Be very afraid" as the motto. Be afraid of the Brent Spence Bridge in Cincinnati (Covington KY). It may show a flaw from all the use is the FEAR message. The I-35 bridge in Minnesota had a bad structural design. That's why it broke. The bridge in Louisville shows a flaw from the quality of metal used in it.
But the Brent Spence has neither of those.
But it's in the area and Boehner (Ohio) and the Senator McConnel from KY, so he thinks disrupting city traffic for another campaign stop at the Brent Spence will help people pressure their Congressman. The bridge already has funding started for the replacement. Barry will try to take credit for that. I'm wondering where they'll set up their campaign stop to have the Brent Spence as a the background for the photo opportunity.
Some people have to be seeing through the lack of transparency offered by this guy, the lack of real job experience at governing, the lack of real world business and economy understand, and all. All the broken campaign promises from the copy machine last time. The campaign is being so careful to avoid "stimulus," "shovel-ready," and the other campaign slogans for this round of spending.
Are things going to go downhill during all this turmoil as he tries to manipulate the politics and the dollar$ to get reelected? My annuity advisor thinks so, from what he recommended when I met with him this week.
Where do new dollars go for inve$ting?
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We need a new bridge!
Granted, I won't be anywhere near there when he comes to town.. That will be one wicked traffic jam!
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Indeed. And the process has been in the works already, BO (before Obama.)
I was laughing the other day because someone said the bridge is upside down. The northbound traffic should have been on the upper level rather than underneath in a tunnel of steel girders. That way the Cincinnati skyline (not Skyline Chili) would be visible to the traffic.
And the Mayor Mallory (of Undercover Boss notoriety) is out there pumping for the bridge. He's also pumping for the governm't subsidy for the downtown to Upper Vine area trolley (railroad) system that's now a near downtown trolly plan. He doesn't seem to understand the Governor killed that.
At this rate we could end up with the BO Bridge as the name!
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