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http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A07-045.PDF
This should answer all of the questions.
Thank you very kindly for posting the TSB 07-045 on the Odyssey brake problem. I will be calling the Dealer for an appointment tomorrow.
Again thank you very much
It's a great minivan, but this braking noise has me the to the point of trading it in for a Sienna.
Get the TSB done ASAP. Problematic brakes are not something to put off.
My 06 honda odyssey also makes squealing noise when you brake lightly. I took it to the dealer 5x and it didn't get fixed. I filed for lemon-law complaint at the BBB. I was wondering how long the process takes to replace you vehicle...Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks!
The price is the same.
Why drivng off the lot, the brakes still made the grinding sound and the low pedel/squichy brakes were still there. I turned right around and drove back the the service bay. The service writer said they'd check it out. The service writer calls me and says they measured the brake pedel travel against another Ody and it was the same and I should come pick up the car.
After I received the call I got on line and found this site and downloaded the TSB. They've odered the parts and the "fix" will be done to our car tomorrow. Frankly, this is BS that you as a consumer have to go find out this stuff and tell the dealer how to fix the cars they represent!
you have an accord with 345k and you'd consider a "FORD" ?!?!?!?!
Be forwarned. I worry I soon will be faced with replacing a transm! Even worse, I worry this could put my family at risk!
check this out... 78 posts in this thread
http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16923
If you are having this problem I would recommend the TSB, but also reporting it to NHTSA. This is a safety issue and should be addressed quickly by Honda.
On Saturday, we drove 50 miles to purchase the 09 EXL. Before we signed the documents, I took the van for a test drive. Stepped on the brake pedal and it was nice and firm. Started the van, and pedal went down to within one inch off the floor. To make the long story short; those brakes where as bad as our lemon 07 Odyssey when it was new. We test drove another one, different color, and those brakes were fine.
Here is another article about Odyssey brakes: recall .
Beware.
Thank you very much for your replies to my inquiry, and for the many posts on this forum. My condolences go out to those who have had accidents, and I extend wishes that all are doing well. Your time and efforts will likely save others from injury or loss of life.
Through your pointers I've now found the Honda Service Bulletin 07-045 (most recent issue dated March 5, 2009), which includes the 2007 Honda Odyssey, and also the New York Times article from January 14, 2009, that refers to the inclusion of the 2007 Honda Odyssey. Thank you! (It is unfortunate that these bulletins do not appear when searching the Honda Owners Site or the NHTSA site.)
Having owned and done personal maintenance, repair, and restoration on cars since 1968, my impression is that dealership shops have found it a challenge to keep up with the ever more sophisticated systems. In particular, the addition of anti-lock-braking, traction-control, and stability-control systems on top of the base hydraulic system has added complexity to maintaining the braking system. Failure of components aside, the correct filling, flushing, and bleeding of the total brake system is more complex than those that have only a base system, such as my 2000 Honda Accord. For example, from my readings of the factory shop manual for the 1996 Chrysler Grand Caravan and a well regarded aftermarket shop manual for the 1997-2004 Porsche Boxster (http://www.bentleypublishers.com/isbn/9780837613338/index.html ), correctly bleeding of the ABS/TC/SC systems requires special electronic equipment to activate the valves in these systems to ensure air can be bled out.
While I am not certain that the procedures described in the above manuals apply to all contemporary cars (I suspect they do), these manuals emphasize that only the base system can be bled using the manual techniques, which have served the past generation of cars and mechanics. The higher functionality systems (ABS/TC/SC) attached to the base system require special equipment and care in addition to conventional manual bleed procedure. Clearly if an ABS/TC/SC system compromises the base system by letting air into it, then eventually sufficient pressure to activate the brakes cannot be achieved.
Again while I am not an expert, this suggests to me that if the soft brake pedal feel is attributable to a faulty ABS/TC/SC module, then bleeding the base system might restore a firmer feel, BUT this is only temporary situation. As the ABS/TC/SC continues to leak air into the base system, the base system will lose its effectiveness again. If an ABS/TC/SC failure introduces massive amounts of air into the base system or provides a path to relieve hydraulic pressure, then the result is a catastrophic loss of braking. If the ABS/TC/SC module is replaced, but BOTH the base and ABS/TC/SC are not properly bled, then the potential for problems still exists. Bottom line - the ABS/TC/SC system needs to be replaced with one that is not faulty, and both the base and ABS/TC/SC need to be bled correctly.
I hope my local Honda dealership can service our Odyssey promptly, and that the Honda parts and processes are up to the task of providing a safe vehicle - one that provides the most basic of functions - stopping the car.
I recently purchased a used 05' Odyssey with the tow packages installed (by Honda and including both the hitch and transmission cooler).
I will be pulling an 1100 lb camper trailer (Boler) with the van this summer and I'm wondering if I need to worry about installing trailer brakes or not? It could end up being as much as 1400 lbs when loaded, but I'm thinking I'll be able to offload some of this weight into the van itself (something I haven't had the option to do with the Forester we've used in the past to tow).
Anyway, the manual mentions that trailer brakes should be installed when pulling anything over 1000 lbs, but I've heard through word of mouth that they aren't necessary unless I'm pulling significantly more weight.
Can anyone offer advice on this?
And does anyone know the approximate cost to install trailer brakes? I haven't checked into this much yet as I'm thinking I may not even need to.
Thanks,
Jason
Brief discription
Front brakes turned twice ( the second time I said no and they did it any way). They wanted to turn them a 3rd time also.( I had them replaced)
1st turned at 19269 mi soft petal also
2nd turned at 26486 mi soft petal also
3rd turned replaced at 26651 accomplished SB for soft breaks (diff dealership)
(my $)
The story goes on and on
I have had several Hondas in the past but this will be the last one. Between the PAX mess, brake noise, warped rotors (that they want me to pay for) and trans issues I've had it.
At that time they didn't find the fix yet, so I traded my 07 Ody for 08 Pilot in 7 months ownership.