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Braking is very important to safety. Honda said BS "NORMAL" when they can't fix it. Now the recall after 2 years the Odyssey owners were driving their van with an issue.
I can't believe it takes Honda tech that long to figure out this problem ...
The problem is attributable to the vehicles' stability control system, Honda said, which can let in small amounts of air and affect the braking system.
Sorry, but there is no more to the Toyota sudden acceleration than there was the Audi sudden acceleration problem.
Bring out desirable cars... Good one.
You want to talk about brake problems ? I have a 2007 Odyssey. Never had a lick of work done on it at 65K miles. Had the brakes replaced on my 2000 Explorer at 20K miles and every 20K thereafter. GM stopped using 4 wheel disc brakes because they couldn't make them work in the rear.
What should the expected life of the front brake pads be? The van had over 50K. With other cars I have had, I would have thought that was reasonable life. Apparently the back pads are still at about 50%. Did I really need new front brake pads, or did we pay for an unnecessary repair?
In my case, with my 2002 I have nad the brakes replaced, the 1st time, at 166,000 kilometers (pads and rotors, front & rear).. I have a type 4 maintainance coming up at 249,000 milometers and expect to replace the brakes again (pads and rotors, front & rear). It costs about $1,000.
Since Akebono replacement have logged over 35,000 miles with no brake noise!!
Well, most reasnoble people realize that ANY make of car can have a problems that requires a recall. That's how.
No car company is immune. Different vendors make different parts and assemblies and all it takes is a imperfect run. The problems aren't detectable and can be near impossible to isolate.
" The Perfect Car Company" doesn't exist.
Honda steps up to the plate and stands behind their products going WAY beyond the warranty period to fix things.
PAX tires? Honda doesn't make those, Michelin does and there are pros and cons both ways on these.
2. How much wear did the brake pads have? Unless you live in hilly/mountainous area or you do lots of hard agressive stopping I would bet you still had 50% or more of the brake pad life.
As, I posted previously I replaced my brakes with Akebono brand ceramic brake pads. This stoped the grinding and squealing and it has been close to 40 miles since replacement.
If you you replace the brake pads again, most shops will reccommend that the rotors be resurfaced. If rotors are worn uneven or somewhat warped this may be needed. However, resurfacing may not be needed. It is hard to know without inspecting them.
Unless you are overaggressive with the brakes, this is definitely a Honda parts problem. I would complain to American Honda. Should be a 800 # in your owners manual. Or start with this 1-800-999-1009 voice prompt #7. In spite of being beyond the 36K mile warranty I would open a case and they may offer to pay for the repair, but you need to be firm with them.
I drove Toyota Sienna for 11 years and used to replace brake pads after every 60-70,000 miles. Now with Honda Odyssey it seems like every 20,000 miles. I hope my problem will be solved after installing Akebono brake pads.
We had several cars in the past, some of them lasted more than 10 years with 130k miles. Never once did we have a problem with brake rotors. Only thing we did with the brakes was to replace the pads. I asked the service guy why the rotor of the Odyssey went bad so fast and he said heat might have caused it and he blamed it on the driver. My wife drives the van and I know she is a gentle driver and would not be hard on the brakes. When I mentioned why we did not have rotor problems with other cars in the past, he said Odyssey is heaviver than the vehicles I mentioned (Camry, Collora, Altima). Then I asked him what the average life of the brake rotors in Odyssey. He refused to directly answer the question. He also insisted that there is no material defect with the rotors and the repair would not be covered by warranty (I called Honda America and was told it would be covered if it is due to material defects).
Is this normal that the brake rotor went bad at such a low mileage (the van had just passed 20k miles when I noticed the problem last summer). My understanding is the brake rotor should be able to stand heat. Are the rotors in Odyssey indeed defective? Should I press Honda to pay for the repair or even replace the rotors?
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i wish I knew about this issue before buying minivan. I just bought 2 weeks ago. Brakes are too soft. Dealer says it is normal. What should I do? Any suggestions, please
The brakes felt soft to me, too, and I was worried about it based on what I have read in this forum. However, now the brakes seem fine to me.
My previous vehicle was a small car, so it did take some time to become accustomed to stopping such a large, heavy vehicle. We took a long trip of about 1,000 miles 2 weeks after our purchase, and by the time we returned, I really didn't notice the braking issue. Now, I like the brakes on my van better than the brakes on my husband's Ford 500.
Give it some time after the break in period, and see if it doesn't improve. If not, keep talking to the people at the service department.
So far, we have had no trouble with anything on the van, and we are quite pleased with it. We've even taken another long trip recently.
Hope this helps!
If anyone knows of any DIY sites with instructions, that would be great!!
I don't have to worry about that. I have one month left on my lease and I can't wait to see it go. Last Honda for me.
Rotors: I never liked the idea of drilled or slotted rotors for general use.... I can see their application for street racing, but in my opinion, those rotors will eat your pads and do get very hot if used in everyday situations. Also, those rotors are lighter and thus do not absorb and transfer heat very well... Thus higher temperature and a greater chance of warped rotors. Best you should do is buy the heavist rotor you can for your vehicle. Take the old rotor with you can compare the thickness of the steel plates and the vents, if the plates or the vents are of thinner material, do not buy, if the same or better than the original, go for it. Usually cheaper rotors are thinner... I learned that the hard way on my previous vehicles..... The whole rotor and pad replacement is fairly easy and can be done at home if you are handy. Wish you all the best.
Thank you Edmunds!!