I can tell you that some folks will not like the slimmed down coverage they will get with Obamacare. I think there are going to be some real surprises for folks.
No more gold plated plans for retirees. If the 27% cut on Medicare coverage goes through you will hear a lot of screaming. Nothing will happen till after the 2012 election. I know our Teamster plan was always running close to going under with $1200 per month premium. When the company tried pulling us out of the Teamster plan into a BlueCross plan it was even higher priced for equal coverage. And our coverage was lousy by the time I retired. MC is so much better. For now with Kaiser that is.
The Rx donut hole closing has already helped out both our Moms. I think - that Part D stuff is fuzzy to me. Been hearing stories about people with pre-existing conditions getting coverage. And some tests will be covered soon, like colonoscopies. Folks who aren't UAW workers appreciate that. Just need to get everyone in the pool so it won't go broke.
"But I don't think they have UAW workers at the Hampton"
So that is the hotel where I would stay...
About that 27% Medicare cut, would that be the payments paid to Doctors???...if yes, and you have a large Medicare practice, I could see the docs screaming and yelling, but actually doing nothing...they can't give up the practice, too many retirees make up the practice...but for those who are under 10% medicare, I could see them sending the patients elsewhere...
As far as hospitals, same thing...a hospital in South Florida that says no Medicare patients will close in under a year, whereas one in Wyoming may have very few medicare patients, who wants to retire in Wyoming???
About that 27% Medicare cut, would that be the payments paid to Doctors???...
Gotta wonder if the real goal here is to shove MD's and Osteopaths out of general practice and pediatrics, then replace them with nurse practioners who cost less. There are some ancillary benefits as well. Probably can't get near as much out of a nurse in a malpractice lawsuit - lower expectations and income. Also, by getting physicians out of general practice the gov can increase the number of specialists coming out of medical school and let competition drive the cost of specialties like surgeons down. Its the airline model really. You put more and more domestic flights on commuter planes with cheaper aircraft and pilots. Their pilots don't cost as much as recruiting former military pilots. Don't worry about skill and training because if a commuter plane goes down during the newer pilots ramping up on the learning curve, the plane is smaller, so the crash is less spectacular in the press. Also the commuter airline is a separate entity than the trunk line carrier it serves so liability is limited as well (which is a big reason why you shouldn't expect American Eagle to remain as part of American before the BK is over).
Gotta wonder if the real goal here is to shove MD's and Osteopaths out of general practice and pediatrics, then replace them with nurse practioners who cost less
I don't think so. General Practitioners, those that practice Family Medicine, Internists, etc are generally your lowest compensated MDs. That is where the shortage is. And one of the reasons is because the big bucks are in the specialties such as Pediatric Oncology and surgical field.
Most things I've read feel that we need to increase the number of GP's, not reduce them.
And yes, Nurse Practictioners and PA's also have a place in the new medical order. Don't need a GP necessarily to diagnosis a common cold or the flu in he winter!
And yes, Nurse Practictioners and PA's also have a place in the new medical order. Don't need a GP necessarily to diagnosis a common cold or the flu in he winter!
Don't need an NP or a PA to diagnose those either. But people will still clog up "urgent care" to be told to get some rest, stay hydrated and eat lightly.
Some practices are now offering e-mail consultation and group visits for people with similar symptions to be able to reduce costs.
Well, you guys are probably right, but the cynic in me smells longer term gov social engineering of the medical field. Med schools are limited and new ones cost a fortune. If they can move GP work mostly out of physicians and down to nurses then the new med grads will become primarily specialists. That means future increased competition in the specialties so that supply and demand lowers their prices. Meanwhile they can pay out less to nurses than GP physicians for a lot of the general practice stuff. Washington and Wall Street aren't as different as some think, it all comes down to the buck!
My last GP in Idaho and my current one "treat" by email. And I had some skin work done by a great PA in Idaho; never met the doc who ran the practice. Nothing wrong with phoning it in between scheduled appointments.
Doesn't work with the UAW - someone has to get to the job site to screw the bolts in.
Maybe we should just retire this one again, since it seems to always veer off and mostly overlap with the Obama discussion?
With Indiana just passing a RTW law, will the UAW lose dues paying workers in droves or just a few? Will Indiana benefit from RTW?
Before the ink dried on Gov. Mitch Daniels' signature making Indiana the 23rd "right to work" state in the nation, advocates on both sides were looking ahead to how the new law will affect Hoosiers.
Supporters said businesses already were lining up to expand or come to Indiana.
Being from Indiana and having a lot of union friends and relatives. I'd guess the unions like the UAW, Teamsters, and United Steel Workers will lose few paying members.
But I can see unions like the retail clerks, the SIEU, and other smaller unions in the retail and service type industries losing some.
Plus it maybe that existing workers will keep paying and more new hires electing not to join. I don't know, Indiana as a whole only has around 10% union membership, so how much of an effect will it really have?
I know when my sister worked as a 3rd grade teacher in Florida (a right to work state), she elected not to join and pay union dues.
I was opposed to RTW for many years. I see it as a no brainer today. It does not take a real bright person to see where the jobs are being created and factories built. It was a good run for the Unions. Reality is, there are way more workers than jobs. Thinking that workers in one state are any more capable than another is purely ignorance. The USA is competing now on a global basis. This is not the time to act like we are the only game in town. Unions do not offer the benefits they once did.
That's in NC. Up in Canada, they are shutting down a Canadian Auto Workers factory. (brandonsun.com)
"Caterpillar last week reported a 58 per cent increase in its quarterly earnings with a record profit of nearly $5 billion.
The company had asked the employees to take a 50 per cent pay cut to help keep Electro-Motive going, but locked them out Jan. 1 when the CAW union members rejected the proposal."
We have friends in our church from Switzerland. The brother visited this summer from there. We visited and in the conversation I asked what he does for a living. He said "I am retired from the greatest company on earth" He traveled all over the World during his career working for Caterpillar.
Now for the 58% increase in profit of $4.9 billion. That is only 8% ROI. Nothing to write home about. Maybe Obama hates Canada and asked Cat to bring those jobs home. Obama is obviously not fond of our neighbors to the North. He shot down Keystone that would be a big boon for Canada. The UAW and CAW should be seeing the handwriting on the wall. The days of $30 per hour line workers is coming to a close.
Obama is obviously not fond of our neighbors to the North. He shot down Keystone
I think that pipeline is easily resolveable, but both parties have turned it into a political fight. Just reroute it. As presented it runs right through a major midwestern acquafier. Looking at big oil's recent track record, I sure wouldn't trust it in that situation. You potentially contaminate a major source of drinking and agricultural water. It's interesting how this thing has become so distorted on both sides. Basically, it's a conduit to export oil, not a source for US oil (we currently are actually in pretty good shape) and once built most of the related jobs disappear (whatever the true number from that gigantic range being argued). Just another example of how the two party system lies and no longer works - time for some new competition in our nation's capitol!
>As presented it runs right through a major midwestern acquafier
A newly built, safely built pipeline would only be 4%? of the current pipelines ALREADY running through the aquifer, and 2000 miles are in Nebraska, site of the biggest squeal.
There's a problem in the WH party about anything they can turn into a greenies issue for votes from that faction.
Didn't know that. However, that is a PR piece for the Keystone people. I'd like to see the other side PR take as well. But still, all both parties do is exaggerate and fight. Neither is effective any more. The Keystone will get built with a slightly different path, but you're right that the Dems want to play it for constituents, as do the Repubs by overstating its direct economic impact on the US. It ain't going through Canada if the Canadiens can help it. Both greeenies and difficult and expensive terrain. By the way, the oil industry is reversing some Oklahoma pipelines to divert petroleum from US refineries to export. It's really all about $$$, not about Americans.
I'm saying numbers and statistics can be manipulated. That's why I like to see both sides of an argument, but then I'm not a partisan to either of the political parties and I don't trust lobbyist and special interest PR or either right or left wing extremist stuff. I'm that overlooked moderate that probably represents the majority of Americans but is disregarded by both parties in Washington.
I posted a map of all the oil and gas lines criss crossing America. It is by far the safest way to transport petroleum products. I don't know of any crude oil we are selling to other countries from the Canadian oil fields. We are selling petroleum products that do employ people in refineries.
I think Canada is very close to building the pipeline to the Coast for sale to China. China is putting up the money. Only one tribe out of 20+ is holding out for more money. That line will get built.
If I was Canada I would not trust the simpletons we elect to do what is logical and good for both nations.
Gagrice - go down to the Houston area and watch the tankers loading up. They are also going to export oil from Cushing Oklahoma storage and refineries - that's why they are reversing the pipeline flow from the gulf to the gulf. I'm not saying that's bad since we seem to be OK on oil right now, just that there's a lot of hype and half truths out there coming from the right and the left.
My understanding is that we are selling diesel to foreign countries such as UK. And buying gas as that is what they have in surplus. Not really sure as that is purely a commodity thing. We are more on the open market which may end up costing us more for fuel. It cannot hurt our balance of trade.
My thinking is we buy oil from Canada, refine it and sell product we create good paying permanent type jobs. If Canada builds a pipeline and loads it onto ships for China it does NOTHING for our economy.
My thinking is we buy oil from Canada, refine it and sell product we create good paying permanent type jobs. If Canada builds a pipeline and loads it onto ships for China it does NOTHING for our economy
First of all its no slam dunk that even if China pays (and I question with that kind of money and political fight that China won't try and wiggle out of some or all of it and I think Canada is leery too) it will be built. As for the refineries in the US, there could be some jobs involved, but be careful of incremental accounting. If the refineries are not exporting diesel distillates they may be refining gas or diesel fo the US market, so its not an all or none proposition. Most of those jobs are going to exist one way or the other, just the physical location in the US may vary depending on the outcome. The number impact is probably being heavily exaggerated by the oil industry. Let me tell you a little story about that biz. You're old enough to remember the Arab oil embargo of the Carter and Ford years and all of the gas stations running out of fuel. Well, I ran into a guy back then in Texas who was flying thermal sights for testing. If you are not familiar, these are night vision devices that work on ambient temperature differentiation rather than starlight and as a consequence can often detect things behind walls. He told me about flying around the gulf part of Texas one night and lo and behold, a lot of those oil storage tanks were pretty full despite the supposed industry lack of supply. Remember what Ronald Reagan said "trust, BUT verify"! Canada wants that pipeline into the US because it is safer and easier dealing with the US and Europe. The US wants it too, but its an election year. The Republicans deliberately backed Obama into a short corner on the issue where he had to either cave into them or say no, while the Dems want to make a political issue on the environment. Both parties suck and are being self serving on this issue. I think it gets built in 2013 regardless of whether Romney or Obama wins and gets a slightly altered routing. Oh, and let's not give Wall Street speculators a pass either - ever notice that when we are in an oil supply shortage here, the price of gas is based on US Cushing prices. But when we are OK on oil like these days it changes to Brent Crude because its a global market??? Couldn't be shifting around to gouge consumers now could it?
UAW was against it because no jobs for their people. They have for some reason bought into the Obama Green agenda. And the UAW backed Obama on the latest Fair trade agreements. What does that tell you about intelligence in their leadership. Bet they are surprised that GM and C just signed a $1.1 billion parts contract with Korea. Serves them right for giving Obama the backing for FTAs. Rocky is still in disbelief over that deal.
The links I read said console stuff for GM and LED bulbs for Chrysler. It sounds like the consoles are made in Alabama, South Korea and China (and maybe other places).
All I can say is the UAW got behind Obama on the FTAs so they are as much to blame as he is for the loss of jobs in America. Amazing how sheep like Union people can be.
If free trade is the only issue, then opponents will have to vote for Rosanne Barr I suppose, since Romney also supports free trade (although he seems to have flip-flopped on China a bit). Ditto Ron Paul.
Buddy Roemer is the man. He is the first to receive matching funds. He is strong on getting us out of these horrible FTAs. Rocky is actively campaigning for him. He is running on the GOP roster. But the party and MSM have kept him hidden. Free Trade is NOT Fair Trade. We have no one in the administration capable of negotiating a Fair Trade agreement. So the USA gets screwed in all these agreements.
It is Indiana that just went RTW.
Speaking of FIAT(chrysler) how is that any different than buying a Toyota, VW or Hyundai built in the USA? Profit ends up in Italy.
He was selling plastics to Mexico. That would help our balance of trade.
No thanks on Fiat. I contributed to them with my son's Spyder. :sick: :sick:
I know on some blogs it is more "if the car is made by UAW" it is somehow more American than when it is made in Alabama by Non-Union Pukes. I look at content as a more important factor. A Volt with 30% US content is not nearly as good for our balance of trade or workers as a Sequoia with 80% US Content. I also wish they would break down that content beyond North American. That includes Canada and Mexico.
In any event, auto worker jobs in the US are up, and many of those jobs are UAW ones. For example, Chrysler adds 1,800 jobs to build Dodge Dart.
Have to wonder how the existing UAW workers and new hires in Belvedere Illinois feel about building a foreign Italian car with an American name. That area of Illinois has been very pro-US, anti foreign for a number of decades.
4x Congressman and Former Governor of Louisiana, Charles Elson "Buddy" Roemer III - CSPAN/Washington Journal - 02/25/12 - Former GOP 2012 presidential candidate and current Americans Elect candidate and current The Reform Party (same one Ross Perot created) :shades:
" funny to watch some of these folks completely rewrite history now that you’re back on your feet." --BO
Now that's a laugh: the great revisionist criticizing others and taking credit for having given money from bondholders to the unions in the bankruptcy. Almost like the money games for contributors in Solyndra where the government's (taxpayers') money would be lost before the company investors would lose theirs.
We all know his big goal is to use the unions to contribute to his campaign in return for taxpayer money and favored status in the legal structure.
Who are you listening to? Who is giving you this misinformation? The stockholders elected the board executives and tanked the company! They have nobody else but themselves! My family that works at GM, had to all take pay and/or benefit haircuts!!! My retired dad included who has no dental or eye care! He lost it to save GM!!!
I'm gonna post a video and I want you to watch it especially the end! Do you know that German union workers make 2x as much as UAW workers? Seriously you are believing a lie. The same lie since 2004/2005 when I met you! :confuse:
So why the brain drain from Germany if it is such a great place to live & work??
More and More Leave Germany Behind
Faced with poor job prospects, high taxes and an intrusive bureaucracy, more and more Germans are choosing to emigrate. Most of those who leave, though, are highly qualified -- which could mean devastating economic consequences.
They are tired of living in country where landing a job is like playing the lottery, a country where not even half of citizens live from gainful employment and a country in which even academics in their mid-40s are already considered problem cases when it comes to job placement. In other words, they are fed up with living in a country where all opportunities already seem to be taken: opportunities to succeed in one's career, to own property and to achieve prosperity.
That is why they want to leave -- as fast as they can, in fact -- and move to places where they believe there is hope for a better future. One of those places is the Third World -- India, to be more precise. René Seifert, 35, still raves about Bangalore, India's booming metropolis, where young computer programmers spend their nights crowding into the city's dance clubs and where, during the days, cars share the streets with rickshaws and cows. And where, despite the seeming chaos, every thing has its place. "I'm fascinated by the pulse of Asia, the upbeat prevailing mood and the wealth of opportunities," he raves.
Germany like many here are faced with low job prospects due to the global recession. Anyone who has a large industrial base especially machine building like the Germans are doing has been hit hard. There economy like most depends on how well our is doing! I would not advise moving to a rat hole like India, but to each there own as they say!
No different than what's happened here. Many people choose to be expats.
2006? Someone is really digging lately.
To Rocky & Fintail, the article shows that Germany has been on the skids for some time longer than the USA. I see nothing wrong with retiring to a warm climate. You all may feel the same way when you get tired of the crappy weather where you both live. I just got my Costa Rica news. The lead article is about a couple that moved there from Canada last year. They wished they had made the move sooner.
If I was rich like you, Gary I would have a Florida home for 4 months out of the year like my grand parents. That was honestly my goal in life was to make enough money to have 2 places. Probably realistically I'll be lucky to afford one unless the economy gets better and wages come back! I already am planning on working until I drop dead!
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Ah, it does say. Maximum of two and a half years. Give 'em time to figure it out and ease into it I guess and shuffle the books around.
No more gold plated plans for retirees. If the 27% cut on Medicare coverage goes through you will hear a lot of screaming. Nothing will happen till after the 2012 election. I know our Teamster plan was always running close to going under with $1200 per month premium. When the company tried pulling us out of the Teamster plan into a BlueCross plan it was even higher priced for equal coverage. And our coverage was lousy by the time I retired. MC is so much better. For now with Kaiser that is.
So that is the hotel where I would stay...
About that 27% Medicare cut, would that be the payments paid to Doctors???...if yes, and you have a large Medicare practice, I could see the docs screaming and yelling, but actually doing nothing...they can't give up the practice, too many retirees make up the practice...but for those who are under 10% medicare, I could see them sending the patients elsewhere...
As far as hospitals, same thing...a hospital in South Florida that says no Medicare patients will close in under a year, whereas one in Wyoming may have very few medicare patients, who wants to retire in Wyoming???
Gotta wonder if the real goal here is to shove MD's and Osteopaths out of general practice and pediatrics, then replace them with nurse practioners who cost less. There are some ancillary benefits as well. Probably can't get near as much out of a nurse in a malpractice lawsuit - lower expectations and income. Also, by getting physicians out of general practice the gov can increase the number of specialists coming out of medical school and let competition drive the cost of specialties like surgeons down. Its the airline model really. You put more and more domestic flights on commuter planes with cheaper aircraft and pilots. Their pilots don't cost as much as recruiting former military pilots. Don't worry about skill and training because if a commuter plane goes down during the newer pilots ramping up on the learning curve, the plane is smaller, so the crash is less spectacular in the press. Also the commuter airline is a separate entity than the trunk line carrier it serves so liability is limited as well (which is a big reason why you shouldn't expect American Eagle to remain as part of American before the BK is over).
I don't think so. General Practitioners, those that practice Family Medicine, Internists, etc are generally your lowest compensated MDs. That is where the shortage is. And one of the reasons is because the big bucks are in the specialties such as Pediatric Oncology and surgical field.
Most things I've read feel that we need to increase the number of GP's, not reduce them.
And yes, Nurse Practictioners and PA's also have a place in the new medical order. Don't need a GP necessarily to diagnosis a common cold or the flu in he winter!
Don't need an NP or a PA to diagnose those either. But people will still clog up "urgent care" to be told to get some rest, stay hydrated and eat lightly.
Some practices are now offering e-mail consultation and group visits for people with similar symptions to be able to reduce costs.
Doesn't work with the UAW - someone has to get to the job site to screw the bolts in.
Maybe we should just retire this one again, since it seems to always veer off and mostly overlap with the Obama discussion?
Before the ink dried on Gov. Mitch Daniels' signature making Indiana the 23rd "right to work" state in the nation, advocates on both sides were looking ahead to how the new law will affect Hoosiers.
Supporters said businesses already were lining up to expand or come to Indiana.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20120202/NEWS05/202020354/Governor-signs-right-w- ork-bill-foes-vow-continue-fight
But I can see unions like the retail clerks, the SIEU, and other smaller unions in the retail and service type industries losing some.
Plus it maybe that existing workers will keep paying and more new hires electing not to join. I don't know, Indiana as a whole only has around 10% union membership, so how much of an effect will it really have?
I know when my sister worked as a 3rd grade teacher in Florida (a right to work state), she elected not to join and pay union dues.
That's in NC. Up in Canada, they are shutting down a Canadian Auto Workers factory. (brandonsun.com)
"Caterpillar last week reported a 58 per cent increase in its quarterly earnings with a record profit of nearly $5 billion.
The company had asked the employees to take a 50 per cent pay cut to help keep Electro-Motive going, but locked them out Jan. 1 when the CAW union members rejected the proposal."
Now for the 58% increase in profit of $4.9 billion. That is only 8% ROI. Nothing to write home about. Maybe Obama hates Canada and asked Cat to bring those jobs home. Obama is obviously not fond of our neighbors to the North. He shot down Keystone that would be a big boon for Canada. The UAW and CAW should be seeing the handwriting on the wall. The days of $30 per hour line workers is coming to a close.
I think that pipeline is easily resolveable, but both parties have turned it into a political fight. Just reroute it. As presented it runs right through a major midwestern acquafier. Looking at big oil's recent track record, I sure wouldn't trust it in that situation. You potentially contaminate a major source of drinking and agricultural water. It's interesting how this thing has become so distorted on both sides. Basically, it's a conduit to export oil, not a source for US oil (we currently are actually in pretty good shape) and once built most of the related jobs disappear (whatever the true number from that gigantic range being argued). Just another example of how the two party system lies and no longer works - time for some new competition in our nation's capitol!
A newly built, safely built pipeline would only be 4%? of the current pipelines ALREADY running through the aquifer, and 2000 miles are in Nebraska, site of the biggest squeal.
There's a problem in the WH party about anything they can turn into a greenies issue for votes from that faction.
Today, nearly 25,000 miles of petroleum pipelines exist within the Ogallala Aquifer, including 2,000 miles in Nebraska. These pipelines transport about 730,000,000,000 barrels of crude oil across the aquifer – each year, including nearly 100,000,000 barrels of crude oil transported across the aquifer in Nebraska
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Are you saying the article is lying about the number of miles of pipeline? LOL
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http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg
http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines.html
I think Canada is very close to building the pipeline to the Coast for sale to China. China is putting up the money. Only one tribe out of 20+ is holding out for more money. That line will get built.
If I was Canada I would not trust the simpletons we elect to do what is logical and good for both nations.
We need more of you.
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My thinking is we buy oil from Canada, refine it and sell product we create good paying permanent type jobs. If Canada builds a pipeline and loads it onto ships for China it does NOTHING for our economy.
The UAW (remember them?) supported Obama's decision not to allow the pipeline as presently proposed.
First of all its no slam dunk that even if China pays (and I question with that kind of money and political fight that China won't try and wiggle out of some or all of it and I think Canada is leery too) it will be built. As for the refineries in the US, there could be some jobs involved, but be careful of incremental accounting. If the refineries are not exporting diesel distillates they may be refining gas or diesel fo the US market, so its not an all or none proposition. Most of those jobs are going to exist one way or the other, just the physical location in the US may vary depending on the outcome. The number impact is probably being heavily exaggerated by the oil industry. Let me tell you a little story about that biz. You're old enough to remember the Arab oil embargo of the Carter and Ford years and all of the gas stations running out of fuel. Well, I ran into a guy back then in Texas who was flying thermal sights for testing. If you are not familiar, these are night vision devices that work on ambient temperature differentiation rather than starlight and as a consequence can often detect things behind walls. He told me about flying around the gulf part of Texas one night and lo and behold, a lot of those oil storage tanks were pretty full despite the supposed industry lack of supply. Remember what Ronald Reagan said "trust, BUT verify"! Canada wants that pipeline into the US because it is safer and easier dealing with the US and Europe. The US wants it too, but its an election year. The Republicans deliberately backed Obama into a short corner on the issue where he had to either cave into them or say no, while the Dems want to make a political issue on the environment. Both parties suck and are being self serving on this issue. I think it gets built in 2013 regardless of whether Romney or Obama wins and gets a slightly altered routing. Oh, and let's not give Wall Street speculators a pass either - ever notice that when we are in an oil supply shortage here, the price of gas is based on US Cushing prices. But when we are OK on oil like these days it changes to Brent Crude because its a global market??? Couldn't be shifting around to gouge consumers now could it?
Their ability to produce good strategic opinions is pretty much in the dumper, so that doesn't mean much.
Damned perfectionist...
Wonder if they are going to make the parts in Korea or Alabama though? (wardsauto.com)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/31/us-skoreas-hyundai-idUSTRE80U08B201201- 31?type=companyNews
UAW Applauds Passage of U.S.-South Korea Free Trade Agreement
Free trade agreements will lose more votes for Obama than just about anything he has done.
In any event, auto worker jobs in the US are up, and many of those jobs are UAW ones. For example, Chrysler adds 1,800 jobs to build Dodge Dart. (USA Today)
Since Illinois is now a right to work state, the question will be how many of those Dart workers will continue to pay their union dues.
It is Indiana that just went RTW.
Speaking of FIAT(chrysler) how is that any different than buying a Toyota, VW or Hyundai built in the USA? Profit ends up in Italy.
The Federal Election Commission has qualified its first 2012 presidential candidate for receiving matching federal funds: Buddy Roemer.
Roemer went from being governor to running The Sterling Group, which focuses on trade between Louisiana and Mexico. Free or Fair? :shades:
Buy some Fiat stock and you'll be an owner. And you'll enjoy being on the other side of those UAW contracts too, lol.
No thanks on Fiat. I contributed to them with my son's Spyder. :sick: :sick:
I know on some blogs it is more "if the car is made by UAW" it is somehow more American than when it is made in Alabama by Non-Union Pukes. I look at content as a more important factor. A Volt with 30% US content is not nearly as good for our balance of trade or workers as a Sequoia with 80% US Content. I also wish they would break down that content beyond North American. That includes Canada and Mexico.
Have to wonder how the existing UAW workers and new hires in Belvedere Illinois feel about building a foreign Italian car with an American name. That area of Illinois has been very pro-US, anti foreign for a number of decades.
I'd guess they really don't care as they're likely happy to be building something. They didn't have any problem building Mitsubishis, why not Fiats?
-Rocky
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/304590-5
-Rocky
Now that's a laugh: the great revisionist criticizing others and taking credit for having given money from bondholders to the unions in the bankruptcy. Almost like the money games for contributors in Solyndra where the government's (taxpayers') money would be lost before the company investors would lose theirs.
We all know his big goal is to use the unions to contribute to his campaign in return for taxpayer money and favored status in the legal structure.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Who are you listening to? Who is giving you this misinformation? The stockholders elected the board executives and tanked the company! They have nobody else but themselves! My family that works at GM, had to all take pay and/or benefit haircuts!!! My retired dad included who has no dental or eye care! He lost it to save GM!!!
I'm gonna post a video and I want you to watch it especially the end! Do you know that German union workers make 2x as much as UAW workers? Seriously you are believing a lie. The same lie since 2004/2005 when I met you! :confuse:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/28/1049409/-German-auto-manufacturers-high- - -profits-and-high-pay-show-why-U-S-labor-laws-need-to-be-stronger
-Rocky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4le8kXSZ7Q&feature=youtu.be
-Rocky
More and More Leave Germany Behind
Faced with poor job prospects, high taxes and an intrusive bureaucracy, more and more Germans are choosing to emigrate. Most of those who leave, though, are highly qualified -- which could mean devastating economic consequences.
They are tired of living in country where landing a job is like playing the lottery, a country where not even half of citizens live from gainful employment and a country in which even academics in their mid-40s are already considered problem cases when it comes to job placement. In other words, they are fed up with living in a country where all opportunities already seem to be taken: opportunities to succeed in one's career, to own property and to achieve prosperity.
That is why they want to leave -- as fast as they can, in fact -- and move to places where they believe there is hope for a better future. One of those places is the Third World -- India, to be more precise. René Seifert, 35, still raves about Bangalore, India's booming metropolis, where young computer programmers spend their nights crowding into the city's dance clubs and where, during the days, cars share the streets with rickshaws and cows. And where, despite the seeming chaos, every thing has its place. "I'm fascinated by the pulse of Asia, the upbeat prevailing mood and the wealth of opportunities," he raves.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,446045,00.html
-Rocky
2006? Someone is really digging lately.
2006? Someone is really digging lately.
To Rocky & Fintail, the article shows that Germany has been on the skids for some time longer than the USA. I see nothing wrong with retiring to a warm climate. You all may feel the same way when you get tired of the crappy weather where you both live. I just got my Costa Rica news. The lead article is about a couple that moved there from Canada last year. They wished they had made the move sooner.
Germany has a very large group of expats in CR.
-Rocky