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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    I really want to like it, but I can see myself cracking my head on the door opening at rear. Of course, I don't ride in the back of my own car often. Roofline looks kinda low...but should be much less claustrophobic for taller drivers than a CLS.

    I suspect it will cost significantly more than an E wagon, so they will both exist, like CLS vs E.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Did they have plastic people with the ML and a McMansion in the background?

    If so fintail may have to hand in his fan card. ;)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, and my kids are tall so they'd be hitting their heads in no time.

    To be honest I'd prefer a regular E-class wagon, but square off the cargo area (like Volvo wagons) to give it more cargo space.

    I haven't seen the new E- wagon, do they make one? What about the C-class?

    I'm spoiled by my minivan's space. When I downsize (probably to a wagon or small/mid crossover), I want something that offers decent cargo room so it doesn't feel like a big sacrifice.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Yes, the W212 wagon has finally arrived on this side of the pond, I have seen one on the road. It is fairly traditional. The C wagon exists elsewhere, but not here.

    I rarely have to haul much, so if I had a wagon it would be just to be different. Not much is cooler than an E63 or C63 wagon
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Found a pic:

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    Not as nice looking, but far more practical. I wouldn't mind having one of those.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    You bring together a group of auto enthusiasts and they all long for a station wagon with a turbo diesel and a manual transmission only with a stiff suspension. Great, except they'd sell about 3 of them in America.

    I'd take one!

    I love wagons. I learned to drive on a 67 Pontiac Tempest wagon.

    My first real memory with wagons was when my dad bought my mom a brand new 57 Plymouth Custom Suburban. Didn't get the third seat which was funny since they had 5 of us. I can remember really liking to hang out in the cargo area on long trips.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yours, mine, maybe one other. Like I said, they'd sell about 3 of them.

    Wagons are like consumer-repellant in the USA. They can't even call them that - Touring, Versatility, Sport, or any name but wagon, which is what they really are.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    as long as someone else is paying, I will take one.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited November 2010
    OK, so they could sell 2, give away 1.

    Actually, I'm not sure my price range will reach that high, so I guess they could sell 1 and give away 2. :D
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Make that give away three. That would be mighty used by the time it hit my price range.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Per the US MB site, the E wagon is still called a "wagon" :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The exception that proves the rule. ;)

    Didn't they use another name?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    In Germany it is simply called a "T-Modell" - in Europe the wagons generally have a more utilitarian rather than luxurious image.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    What the h is W212, E63, C63? I pulled up to a lady today at stoplight, maybe 60'ish, in a Mercedes C-numbered sedan. Saw the logo. Looked like it was latest version, maybe 2010, 2011. Saw the logo, but no W's, E's, C63? Am I looking in the wrong places for the W, E or C? Is this some kind of "factory" id number? If so, who cares? Why should anybody care about factory assembly line numbers?

    On commercials, saw another commercial yesterday on tv, was not Mercedes, Cadillac, or Honda. Kind of sleepy at the time. BUT, another take on stupid dry-lake bed speeding, kicking up dust/sand, then the obligatory sliding sideways with front wheels cocked. Who are the idiots, with money, who might make a car buying decision on these commercials?

    Insofar as wagons/hauling, my former Chevy Caprice station wagon was superb. Then, I discovered Suburban, which I had for many years. But, the Suburban was outclassed by Honda Odyssey, which I had for some years side by side with Suburban. Ody was clearly the superior hauler of STUFF for sheer volume. Now, granted, I don't haul a boat or a horse trailer, which of course the Ody could not handle.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    The W (or R) number is the chassis or platform number. As MB makes many different models on each platform, and some of the numeric names remain the same over many different platforms, enthusiasts use the prefixed numbers to be specific. Here's a summary of modern numbers. The new style C-class is a W204.

    I don't think any highline buyer makes a decision based on a commercial...however...a cool commercial can help one justify their brand loyalty.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    just got a new issue of consumers reports today, and they have list of updated reliability estimates.

    of note, they have a seperate section for wagons. Not very big. Interesting though what the count. Jetta makes sense. But they also count the mazda5, accord crosstour, sube outback, Toyota venza and Volvo XC70.

    guess the sube and volvo are just too obviously jacked up wagons. But the 5 I thought should be in the minivan catagory. And I guess they didn't know what the heck to do with the venza and X-tour, since there is no hatchback catagory, and they sure aren't SUVs. And I guess family cars have to be sedans.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, Mazda5 is really a small van, I call it a vanlet. It has sliding doors and all.

    Venza, Crosstour, and Outback are...I dunno, crossovers?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Funny criticism of the lameo Highlander-kid ads....note to Toyota, the Highlander is not a stylish vehicle.

    Well, the ads seem to be working. Toyota has just 6 days' supply. And this for a (very) mild refresh. Not bad.

    http://www.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1050819_five-vehicles-in-high-demand/- page-2
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Reminds me of a catchy line by Dan Akroyd in "Tommy Boy" :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited November 2010
    The paint chip one?

    It's been a while...
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    maybe dad should have put on a few minute smoke show using that LT-1 under the hood of the woody wagon. school canceled due to fog. ;)
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    I have seen a couple of wagons that look a lot like that in the last week or so, except they had quad pipes out the back. AMG?
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    "What the American public doesn't know..." :shades:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    That would have been cool, something the Toyota simply isn't capable of :shades:

    Regarding the quad pipe wagons, AMG variants of W211 are extremely rare, average sales volume maybe around 100 units per year in the US...maybe the V8 models had quads, but I can't recall.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    edited November 2010
    A 2007 530xi wagon equipped with a manual transmission and the Sport package. I'm borderline tempted.

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    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes Member Posts: 1,019
    That's a sharp wagon. A little window tint....
    2012 Mustang Premium, 2013 Lincoln MKX Elite, 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,786
    ...that would put me off... If it were RWD...

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Ooooooohhhhh! What are they asking for it?
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    edited November 2010
    If it were RWD...

    That's why I'm only borderline tempted...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    Ooooooohhhhh! What are they asking for it?

    Here's the rest of the story.

    It's got high miles -it was apparently a company car- which explains the $27,990 asking price.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    well, i could be convinced to live with the AWD. Not a horrible thing for the travel car.

    this really pushes my button. a wagon, a stick, in my favorite color combo.

    but man, those miles. Would have to be a lot cheaper than that to get me on board. And actually the Xi part is a much bigger turn off with high miles.

    Now, at a better price and with RWD, I would be fine with the miles.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Yeah, me, too but it does get the old desire going, doesn't it?.....
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Whoa baby, that's a find right there!

    Would be cool to find that in a 3'er wagon (if they actually existed :cry: )
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Latest Mercedes commercial has Santa Claus looking over Mercedes cars at assembly line then going into his own office/workshop at factory. Not bad.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Saw the one with a new Benz pulling in to every driveway and then Santa driving down the street in an SL (I think).

    They're starting to resemble Lexus ads too much, LOL.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    New Christmas commercial from Lexus very heartwarming. Father and daughter go shopping for Christmas tree. Then, later, final scene is nice suburban setting with house/front yard, snow and father/daughter have black Lexus sedan with bow in front and smiling mother is happy recipient. That is giving. As usual, Lexus has classiest Christmas commercials.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Does it then show her merging onto a highway at 38mph and then sitting at 10 under in the left lane while sipping a latte and checking her phone for her botox appointment? Or maybe that's the Bellevue/Kirkland/Redmond market specific version :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    No, that's the ad for the HS hybrid, I think. :P
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    I don't know that one can correlate Lexus women drivers with inattentive driving. Cell phone drivers, obstructers, left lane campers drive all brands and types of vehicles. However, I will make one exception. Here in northern Illinois, if you see a slow moving Buick car in cooler, cool weather, it most likely will be driven by a man wearing a "hat".
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Locally, the brand is just such a shameless Stepford Wife choice that I can't hold back :shades:
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    if you see a slow moving Buick car in cooler, cool weather, it most likely will be driven by a man wearing a "hat".

    Kentucky is also infested with the Old Man in Hat(OMIH). They are also frequently found in Avalons. In almost all cases the left turn signal is permanently activated.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    All of those "Chevy Runs Deep" ads. The obvious response is "Better Get a Shovel".

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    I remember several years ago during a summer sales promotion, a GM line (Chevy or Pontiac I think) used the song "Might As Well Be Walking On The Sun" in a long running ad. Poor choice, as I would always respond with "Because you're going to get burned" :shades:
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    GM Says Thanks To Nation For Helping Them Get Back Up and channels John Belushi no less. (Edmunds Daily)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Funny take on giving a bow-wrapped SUV to your gold digger (beware, title might offend the sensitive) :shades:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Not bad humor, better than the vast majority of the dreck out there.

    Not really commercials, but hilarious in their own ways. I'll take the Accord and Corolla, thanks: :shades:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDYZtU7fCFI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFmUSorxOtE
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I used to say "We Build Surface Excitement" when I saw all the wings, gills, and tacked-on parts those Pontiacs got.

    Gosh, and interior space efficiency was terrible. Big outside, cramped inside. How did they do so poorly?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Wasn't there a slogan like "nobody sweats the details like GM"....indeed.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    The Sonata ad with the hipster looking couple playing bad Christmas music isn't making me want to run out and buy one...
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