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Q45 Troubles
My '92 Q45 has 117,000 pampered, hwy miles and now
it has developed a very slight flutter (soft
vibration) at about 25mph. Not that annoying, but
took it in right away. Infiniti tells me that I
need a new driveshaft. Actually, and with no big
suprise, it's the U-joints that need replacing.
They tell me that they cannot just replace the
U-joints, but they must sell me the entire
driveshaft, which will come new joints.
Well, this is the first repair after all of these
miles, but I find $900 a bit much for a driveshaft.
Does anyone know where I could obtain one without
losing my pants???
Help!!
it has developed a very slight flutter (soft
vibration) at about 25mph. Not that annoying, but
took it in right away. Infiniti tells me that I
need a new driveshaft. Actually, and with no big
suprise, it's the U-joints that need replacing.
They tell me that they cannot just replace the
U-joints, but they must sell me the entire
driveshaft, which will come new joints.
Well, this is the first repair after all of these
miles, but I find $900 a bit much for a driveshaft.
Does anyone know where I could obtain one without
losing my pants???
Help!!
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8 Hours to change these parts? Can this be for real? Also, shouldn't I see some steam, puddling, or notice the fluid going low? Shouldn't the overheat light come on? Do I need a second opinion (scheduled at another dealer tomorrow)?
Any information or advice would be appreciated!
My experince, for the record, is good for the q45. At 60,000 I had to repalce the freeze plugs because they leaked, and a new water pump, too. The most recent problem was the A/C compressor which had to be replaced (ouch, major bucks!). Otherwise, no problems. I love the car after 3 year ownership (I bought used). I liked it enough that I just bought a new 1999 q45! I think it's the best value today in the luxury car market.
My problem now is that my rack is leaking so I have to replace the entire rack. Dealer charge 1700, my mechanic wants $800. I'm worried other things might go like fuel injectors, tranny etc. Thinking about getting rid of it. How many miles do have on your Q and have you had any other problems?
I don't think it's the traction control that you need fret over, but rather there was a special suspension option..some kind of adjustable setup that is quite troublesome.
Last of all, the transmissions were weak, but apparently none of you have had problems, which is great...maybe these were corrected earlier.
I hope you did not buy that Q45a which has the fully active suspension (FAS).
I took my Q in to the dealer at 32,000 miles which was after the warrantee period and was told the FAS needed repair to the tune of $10,000.
I was told to call Infiniti Corp in CA. They initially offered to pay half but withdrew the offer WITHIN minutes because I told them that a major failure to a first of its kind system, at 32,000 miles, should be fully paid for by Infiniti....Partically since the $10,000 repair would only be guarenteed for one year. $10,000 EVERY 32,000 MILES is TOO high a price to expect a customer to pay.
As you can see these great cars are backed by a company that drops their customers after the pampered 4 year warrentee period is over. I would expect that from GM or Ford, but not a so called Japanese luxury car maker.
While the Q45 is not perfect for me (rather larger and opulent), I am continually attracted to the potent V-8, rear wheel drive (tired of front drive), appearance, and better than expected handling for a two ton car. Factor in the super low used car prices, and the thing is hard to ignore.
Lastly, in mixed highway/city driving, what kind of mileage. I know premium is required.
- Phil
Window regulators, seat motors(2X), lumbar adjuster,and the list goes on. This air filter replacement that it seems to need every other service interval ($150) is ridiculous.
I think the only way to own this car is to experience the excellent service while in warranty and then dump the car and take a beating on the horrible resale.
Unfortunately I loved the handling and quickness of the Q. That is why I kept repairing it hoping that the problems would eventually go away. But it just got worse.
Anyone else have a similar experience with their Q45.
Any Infiniti sold by a dealer used has access through the dealer computers to the complete service history... no history no buy!
After the warranty expired, had to put a new alternator in at 110K, and a new thermostat (3 hours of labor charged for that!!), brakes twice, and now the mechanic said the power steering rack is starting to leak, which is 1200 bucks, and the catalytic coverter also needs replacing. No Mas!!!!
IMHO, these cars are great cars to own and drive if you're covered under warranty, but if not they can eat big time. Cost for parts and service are obscene. Still, there aren't many cars out there that are more rewarding to drive......
(a friend's has 340K) I must agree with some of your comments. The Q requires steady maintenance. Much like all High Performance Sport luxury cars( 1990-1994) or sports cars which are worse. My car has a trade in value of <$4k, but I spend that much or usually more in annual maintenance over the last 100k or 4 years ($15K).
As opposed to depreciation it seems a good value.
Find a good mechanic who doesn't have the dealer overhead and rigorously flush and change all(brake,differential,transmission, coolant, power steering) fluids every 30K. Never put green antifreeze or tap water in a aluminum engined car.
Tokico the OEM of factory shocks has a half priced alternative, anyway you're supposed to change shocks at 60k. The suspension design and weight of a Q will eat tires at 30k even Michelins Pilot H4 235/60/15, real tires which take advantage of the Q abilities may only last 20K. Brakes life can be improved with larger more open wheels and aftermarket rotors and pads but these still warp later. See Alt.autos.infinti.Q45 for maintenance help.
Q45man
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
I currently drive a Camaro Z-28 with a Corvette special edition 5.7L engine in it. I wanted to make sure what I bought next wouldn't be wimpy... and the Q blew me away... I loved everything about it... But another thing is reliability... My Z-28 was one problem after another as one would expect a high performance car to be... The Salersperson told me that the Q was a realiable car but from what I've been reading this isn't so...
So advice from all you Q owners... I am Planning on purchasing a Q45 between the years of 94-98...
I am 23 and in college and now with all my commuting for business and formal gatherings, I need something classy but fun and ideal for nights out on the town or taking a road trip... But if the Q is going to require a lot of trips to the dealer for repairs, I will have to think this over because I want to keep my wallet from wearing thin...
I would love all of your honest responses in regards to this... I want to make sure the car I get wil help me and not make life more stressful then it already is.
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
q45man
Well, I broke for the Lexus and Acura dealerships. Trying to business with the Lexus dealer is like trying to get reservations at Wolfgang Puck's latest resturant...IMPOSSIBLE. I decided to lease this time (should have done it on the Q). With the same "down" (0) here's the results:
ES 300 $34K car $628 mthly f/48mths 15,000 mpy
GS 300 $42K car $768 mthly f/48mths 15,000 mpy
I30 $30K car $537 mthly f/48mths 15,000 mpy
3.5RL $42K car $575 mthly f/39mths 15,000 mpy
The Lexus salesman told me the GS 300 was so much better than the 3.5RL, and that's why the mthy was $193.00 more with a 9 MONTH LONGER LEASE. What a dummy!!! A better car has a better resell and a higher residual and thus a lower payment. Money talks and B.S. walks, after I told him the truth, he didn't know what to say, he was confused. I don't do business with people who don't know their product, so I ask to speak to someone else--I got his manager. Once again,"our car (GS 300) is a much better car, and worth the extra $200 a month...get a clue, the purchase price of the cars were established. The GS 300 was $42,400 and the 3.5RL was $42,495, the expected residual made the difference.
Once I looked into the "reliability" and expected problems. I hot-footed back to the Acura dealship and ask them to please do business with me. I've had the car for 1,500 miles and I could be happier.
For all you Infiniti owners with problems...go see your local Acura dealer, they have just the answer. The only thing I miss is my service advisor, she pretty little lady with good car smarts.
"Infiniti...eat my shorts!"
Safety Insufficient Data
Reliability 8.8
Performance 8.6
Comfort 9.1
Value 5.6
Overall Insufficient Data
Can anyone explain an 8.8 reliability rating?
If what I read here is true I will have to forget the Q as I couldn't stand that many problems.
I am looking for a nice good driving car for a big body (6'3") and havn't got the $ for more than the 95 Q45 would cost. Any good ideas much appreciated.
The Ford Crown Vic with police options, SS chev are relatively easy to repair.
I had a '94 Q45, leased new for 36 months. I had to replace the brakes at 18K miles, tires at 20K, and had any number of "minor" yet annoying malfuctions. Sunroof motor burned out. Tilting side mirrors didn't tilt, etc. Fortunately, my local service manager was married to a lady I work with. I thought my problems were "unique", and therefore I'm considering another one. Seeing the many posts here re: problems, I'm not so sure.
The Lexus dealers I've met are arrogant snots; they've got a good product, know it, and expect you to beg to give them money. Not this guy. Like "batkins1", I'm now considering the Acura 3.5 RL. While it's "plain vanilla", it's pricing is very competitive and I have two friends who have it and love it.
Acura legend and Audi. Which car has better pros/cons and why.
has any experience with the active suspension?
The car has 50k miles and the interior is extremely nice while the exterior has had a poor
paint job. Also the sony cd changer seams to be malfunctioning. I've heard the active suspension
can be expensive ($6k) if broke, and a tuneup
coslty because of the placement of the plugs.
Any advice from any one with experience?
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Q45man
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1. Water Pump and cooling system failures- Obviously a result of poor cooling system maintenance. Not all coolants are designed for aluminum blocks/heads. Improper coolant and lack for flushing at given intervals will inevitably cause failures. Corrosion will cause overheating and lack of lubrication will cause pump failure.
2. Automatic X-missons. Flush the fluid at 60K! Everyone that I have spoken to who has flushed the tranny fluid at 60K miles has had no problems with their auto tranny.
3. Brakes- Brakes are a friction surface. They are designed to wear. If the cost of replacing a high performace brake pad scares you, then don't by a high perf sedan!
4. Active suspension- This is a big one. Just don't buy the car. I love the a models, I just wouldn't own one. The complexity of the system and the sheer number of load bearing components are mind-boggling, not to mention the sensors and electronics that go with it. Of course its gonna break!
All in all, sceduled preventative maintenance is the cure to most high cost problems later in life. I'm not saying nothing is gonna break, I'm just saying a little $$ now will save a lot later. I mean c'mon, name one car that NEVER breaks!
I love my current Q, and the past Q's that I've owned. They might be one of the best engineered cars out there.