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Cheers!
Paul
-mike
The dealer was wrong to let someone else drive the car, but if there was no real harm done (other than to your feelings), it might be easier to just let it go. Definitely follow up with Subaru of America and ding the dealer on the survey, though.
When I bought my OB, I test drove a Winestone model, and then decided I liked Timberline Green better. So, I just picked another OB with the right color and options, and gave it a quick lookover. Hours later, after I finally owned the green car, I found out that there were 80 miles on the ODO. Doh!! I felt a little stupid, and was a little miffed that the car had obviously been test-driven quite a bit. But, 4500 miles later, that initial 80 miles is no big deal.
If you looked over your car thoroughly and there are no problems, my advice to you would be to just forget about it and go out for a fun drive!
Craig
Ask the dealer for something small as a show of good faith and acknowledgment of the "oops". Maybe a couple of free oil changes or car washes. Do not ask for ridiculous things because the mistake was small.
-Colin
The flip out thingy in the wall of teh cup holder is to provide stability for a can or bottle which doesn't fit snugly in the holder.
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To anyone else:
I used this site before I bought my subaru last July, and have been away for months. Now I'm contemplating some accessories. Where is the best place to purchase Subaru accessories? I'm having trouble finding the site. Any comments on the automatic mirror w/compass and adding it to an 2000 OB Limited wagon? Perhaps the infamous Suabru Queen - Darlene (I seem to recall when reading posts months ago) can help or respond??
Thanks again to all of you kind and helpful people out there.
-Brad
RayC: I'll reiterate just so my post can be a little longer :-), relax and enjoy your car...end of story! I would add that you can better vent your frustrations w/the customer satisfaction survey that you will receive from Subaru. Believe me when I say that the dealer would not want to have a bad survey. Subaru of America places a lot of weight on these surveys (I think that Patti and Darlene could back me up on this point). Anyhow, we would like to see you post in the future as a happy new Subaru owner not a disgruntled, potential non-customer.
Stephen
You won't find a better place to buy Subaru parts than Qsubaru@aol.com. Darlene's the greatest and the prices are unbeatable (wholesale).
Vince
BTW Blizzaks (which I had on the 92) are definitely better on ice - or at least they inspire more confidence - than the Arctic Alpins but the Michelins ride and handle better on anything else.
Mike, you really weren't kidding in your last post! I'm sorry that it has spread on to this excellent conference area as well. :-(
Drew/aling
Townhall Community Leader/Vans Conference
-mike
Drew... why can't you scribble it? Are you like a probationary community leader?
-Colin
GEEEEZZZZZZ I glad we don,t have the 2.5 engine & I didn't buy the turbo!!!!!!
Paisan: Ignore the rock ape and he will go away. Why let an idiot stuff up a good thing?
Gus
Mike, I agree with Colin. You shouldn't have to give up the priviledge of posting just because of someone else's inappropriate conduct.
Drew/aling
Townhall Community Leader/Vans Conference
Colin, getting rear-ended is not supposed to trigger the airbags, so I don't see why that is an argument for how airbags didn't help you in 3 rear-end accidents. I agree, if you wrap your car around a concrete post at 60 mph, physics says you will probably die. But then neither airbags, nor seatbelts would help at all.
Statistics show that airbags have only saved a few thousand lives (out of hundreds of thousands of fatalities) in the last decade. However, this statistic is deceptive. Firstly, few cars on the road ten years ago had airbags. Secondly, they only count people who were in potentially fatal accidents (how would they know, really?) who were NOT wearing seatbelts but had airbags and survived. If they were wearing seatbelts, the study arbitrarily gave the lifesaving credit to the seatbelts alone.
Don't get me wrong, I believe in seatbelts, safety-oriented cars, and paying attention. But I also believe airbags can help quite a bit. Just look at video footage of crash tests in non-airbagged cars...even with a seatbelt on, the dummy's torso is held more or less in place but his head, legs, and arms get flung forward until they are all completely horizontal and the head (in some cases) smacks the steering wheel. Hmm, can't find anything on the internet. I think I saw this film in traffic school years back
oops, sorry for yakking away...
Dave C.
ps: Mike, don't let that sadly pathetic, bored, lonely, loser with nothing better to do with his (yah I don't think it was a her) lame life affect your day in any way =p
BG - you are perfectly correct with the deployment criteria for Side Impact Air-bags. They are dependent on the breaking of the circuits.
Overall airbag comments - In my role, I get to see a lot of letters where airbags have saved lives. One of the more frequent concerns we hear from people is that the bags didn't deploy. When we ask if someone was hurt, more often than not, they were not. The seatbelt did it's job. G-Forces do indicate whether a front bag should go or not. If you hit a deer and it rolls up your hood, more than likely it won't go off. If you hit a wall going full speed, dead on center, it probably will.
Just my opinions.
the salesman said that if we filled out the customer satisfaction survey with all excellents (in essence--not a direct quote), we would get a free oil change. My husband filled out the survey with some areas of not-so-good ratings (they were lucky I wasn't the one filling out the survey!) and we didn't get the oil change. No big deal in one sense--but it has bothered me to do business in this way.
I know when we have had service done that we get back a form saying that if we had any problems, we should notify the service department BEFORE we fill out the customer satisfaction survey from Subaru.
Has anyone else run into this kind of situation?
TonyL-I am still waiting for the hood deflector to arrive here.
I won't be putting it on until 11/11 or 11/18 because of plans for the next 2-3 week-ends. You had said that you would watch for my posts so that you could help me if I had any problems with the install. I wanted to let you know why I hadn't said anything yet about it.
~~~Pat
max $700/yr or $3500/5yrs. The web site says the current policy is 3% rebate in form of $100 coupons, max $500/yr or $2000/4yrs. I called 800 # on the card, and they quoted 5% rebate policy.
I'm still not sure which way I like more. 5% is a very good rebate but I can use it only for new car. 3% is not as good as 5% but I liked the flexibility of using coupons for accessories and service of my 2 current Soobs.
Anyhow... Hey Bay Area retailers, here I come!!!
..Mike
..Mike
Dennis
Acura pulled a similar trick with us last year when we purchased our TL.
Lack of professional integrity, I'd say.
Randy
Mike- ditto the motion for you to stay with us!
-Colin
The kicker to this story is 6000 miles later I have never gottten the survey. I hadn't thought about it until seeing these posts. SOA has my correct address because I just got the ECU recall notice.
Patti, Is there any way I can get that survey?
John
Paisan- stick around, dude. That wierdo isn't ruining anything for us, especially with these speedy scribbles!
For the record, Crew Chiefs cannot scribble posts, either.
Dennis: GTs seem to be a real find. I usually only see 1 or 2 at Fitzgerald, and considering there are different colors, options, trannies, and even body styles - good luck! Try Patti's suggestion.
Kate: glad to hear you insist on passengers wearing their belts. My wife sometimes sits in the back with the baby and I some times have to remind her.
For the someone that asked, Geolander tires are made by Yokohama.
Pat: see if you can take photos of the deflector installation.
-juice
Ron
Now what's a scribble?? Did I miss those posts mike was referring to?
Dennis
most of the posts Mike referred to happened over on the Isuzu Trooper forum, so we here missed them. Probably for the best, from what I can infer. Seems someone is out to harass Mike, and is following him around from forum to forum.
-juice
Thanks,
Ray
Thanks,
Ray
Re: Rigged surveys... I've had this issue with the local Toyota service department (our other car is a Camry) and in fact went so far as to call Toyota and complain, not that the service was other than satisfactory, but only that Toyota of America shouldn't be thinking that they're getting unbiased customer data. I think it's great that a service organization wants to be sure that its customers are satisfied, but I think asking "was everyhting OK?" ONCE is as far as it should go. Interestingly enough, the next time I was in the service department, the "prompted" responses taped to the service desk were not to be found.
--Jay
In any case, I saw it shortly after it was posted and informed Bonnie right away. It, and the user have been taken care of for now, but I fear that this isn't the last that we've seen of him. I've asked if it is possible to invoke a more permanent solution.
Drew/aling
Townhall Community Leader/Vans Conference
If it's from home IP addresses in his scope could be blocked, but that would keep others from his immediate locale / ISP from entering the forums as well.
There are many other options too.
-Colin
After the break-in period as described in the manual, begin driving the vehicle normally. There is no further need to baby it, or fear that you shouldn't tow, accelerate rapidly, etc. After the break-in it's ready to rock!
-Colin
Speaking of rigged surveys, the guy at the Mazda dealer where we bought our 626 actually told us "fill in these, here", pointing to the column with for the best scores.
Ray: drive smoothly for the first 1000 miles or so. Try to vary speeds, and avoid using cruise control. Be gentle with the brakes and tranny, too, if you can.
After that, you have a rev limiter to let 'er rip. They're designed to handle it.
-juice
Thanks,
Drew/aling
Townhall Community Leader/Vans Conference
I very want to take this car and rock it, to see what it can do!
Oh well, I gues I will baby it for the first 1000 miles. I have plan to keep if for a long time
Thanks,
Ray
Bit
Have you driven both of them yet?
-Colin
Drew/aling
Townhall Community Leader/Vans Conference
I noticed by your profile that you have a Sidekick. You will find the Forester far more comfortable and powerful. It's an AWD car, not a truck like the Sidekick.
The only thing the Sidekick has over the Forester, is that it is more off-road capable, in that it has a low range, which the Forester does not have.
Subarus are very reliable. That's not an issue to worry about.
Bob