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  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    It's been a loooooong winter.....
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    edited March 2011
    trying to figure out the 'window' situation ... We 'thought' we had it figured out, then I realized there were some things that were just going to be 'visually' off-balance...

    Spent about an hour with the contractor this afternoon and we were both figuring out the problem and taking measurements and drawing on the drywall ... I think we finally got it all figured out. Luckily he understands that it needs to "look" right as well as be constructed properly.

    Putting in an "awning" window up high on the wall over the sink - only the sink isn't centered under the window. We are "creating" balance with wall sconces, mirrors, and a narrow counter (I hope!) I think we have found all the white "subway" tile that we need. I will go out and buy the trim tiles and paint. We have the grout narrowed down to 2 colors (one more choice these days!)

    The DH and I were out shopping for an air compressor (not for the bathroom!) this weekend and happened on some wall sconces (on clearance) that we both liked and that match our bathroom. We bought 3 of them for $16 each. They have white ceramic on the mounting plate and another ceramic accent on the sconce. They are sort of "art deco". I thought the lighting would cost a lot more than $48.

    So - we are entering into week 4 of the remodel and we are both tired of all the stuff in the bedroom that belongs in a bathroom (hampers, toiletries, etc.), tired of the treks up the stairs to shower, etc., tired of never getting everything needed up to the bathroom in one trip (yeah, you'd think we'd be better at it by now!), and we are ready to have the new bathroom finished.

    And to keep this in the theme of the boards ... as the contractor was going out through the garage this afternoon, he was "admiring" my Subaru Outback and was amazed that it is over 10 years old. (It's the truth!)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Took a while, as he had to wait for a manual Premium PZEV to arrive at the dealer in the color he wanted (Paprika Red Pearl), but he just picked it up and it happy as a clam!

    His 2002 Legacy was totalled in a multi-car crash that wasn't his fault. He drove a rental around for a while, then insurance paid him. But...no manuals in stock, so he had to wait nearly a month to find the right one.

    He was lucky because the parents were out of town, so he borrowed their 01 Outback for that month.

    We have an 09 Limited so right away I noticed some updates - new head unit, Bluetooth buttons on the steering wheel, and new climate control knobs. That Paprika color appears copper/orange in direct sun, too, but more like a red at night.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    edited March 2011
    I'm really liking the Paprika Red on mine; it's a sharp-looking car with the tinted windows and it also dirties nicely (yeah, that's a consideration here in the frontier!).

    Congrats to him! I hope he manages to hang onto it at least as long as his '02, and that the conclusion of his ownership experience is a little less... traumatic. ;)

    All things considered, that really wasn't too long of a wait.
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yep, offsets the tint nicely, agreed.

    Hey - he walked away, the Subie did what it was supposed to do and sacrificed itself in order for him to stay safe.
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    You folks south of the 49th get PZEV options for all models right? WE can only get it for a single trim level of OB or Leg, so if you want leather or a sunroof, you can't have PZEV. Never made sense to me. It is all in the emisions equipment right?
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    Yes, you can get it in all trim levels (at least all non-turbo, I don't know about turbo). Actually, I think non-PZEV cars are somewhat difficult to come by. I know that the vast majority of cars sold here (Alaska) have the PZEV option on them. I think there are, what, 17 states that require CA emissions standards for motor vehicles now? Seems to me that it would be easiest just to build them all as PZEV and call it a day.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    I'm going to the NEA conference next year as our local union representative. I believe it will be in DC, so I'm excited about it. (Guess it's really not so special since I volunteered when our President sent out an email that we needed 'nominations' for the position, and I told her she could put me down if they needed me. Didn't realize I'd be the only one on the ballot! lol)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We factory-ordered a PZEV model.

    Why not? 5 more true HP for little in cost, so cleaner and meaner.

    :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited March 2011
    Congrats, Brenda.

    Let us know when you're coming, we DC locals will try to meet you for lunch or something. It would be nice to meet more of the Crew in person.
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    Makes one wonder if there are different standards used. Specs in Canada do not report any change in HP between the two models. I thought all claims now had to meet SAE standard. Don't see how they could differ North or South of the 49th.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Hmm, anyone have a 2011 brochure?

    Perhaps with the FB25 engine that is no longer the case.

    It definitely was with the EJ25 for the 2009 model year, though.
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    I had the 2010 Canadian brochure and it stated same HP for PZEV and reg 2.5i.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    i? You mean x?

    We're talking about the Forester. I don't think the other PZEV models made more power, besides the Forester.
  • volkovvolkov Member Posts: 1,306
    Sorry, X. Yes, both the Forester and Leg had identical HP numbers PZEV or not.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I guess the extra 5hp went away.

    Clearly that makes the 2009 PZEV model more valuable.

    I'll accept bids starting at the original MSRP now...

    LOL
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    I'm not sure where to find that information. The brochures (downloadable from Subaru.com) for 2009 through 2011 all state 170 for the 2.5L NA engine. There is no separate specification for PZEV, at least not that I found.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    So the kids grew out of the van, and it was time to get a sedan. You guys know I'm in to imports, so I got the sedan that is Imported from Detroit.

    We got a model with only the finest Corinthian Leather, and the new Pentastar V6. Pentastar means 5 stars, and Mercedes only has 3 stars in their logo, meaning this engine is 67% better than Mercedes V6s.

    We picked black because it offsets all that chrome you know I love so much. It's an automatic, but this 6 speed auto is better than any manual, period. It will make all manual transmissions obsolete.

    Sticker price was in the low $40s, but with rebates, dealer incentives, 0% financing, and wheeling and dealing I got it for just under $20k, which is a strong value.

    AWD was seemingly not available, but we convinced the dealer to pull an AWD system out of a Chrysler 300 so we'd have that. We would have bought that but it was made in Canada and not one of the Imported models we wanted.

    If you haven't figured it out yet...APRIL FOOLS! :shades:
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    Dude! As I was reading this, I was freaking out. You are very, very funny! Rob M
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    Hahah; that's funny! I didn't even make it through the first sentence before I thought to myself, "What? He's full of sh#$!"
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Sorry Juice, I was on to you once I read the title and first sentence!!!! :P

    Next year try something less obvious, like "I just bought a Ferrari!" ;)

    tom
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    :D

    I read that to my 8 year old son and he didn't fall for it.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    And he kept saying "I want mommy's Sienna back!!!"
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The kids do love the van, too.

    It's better for passengers than for drivers. Rear seats recline, front seat folds flat, I put in a 12" DVD screen, and they can put the dog between them. They love it.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Our Sienna isn't getting too much love around here. We still have the Odyssey, as the dealer wouldn't give us much for a van with 137k miles, and the market is kind of slow right now. Hopefully it will pick up once the weather improves (remember that we got snow last Friday!).

    Problem is, in so many ways the Honda is just better. The Sienna is quiet with a smoother ride, but the Honda is the drivers car of the two. And the seats are better, especially the two middle row thrones. So the longer it is here, the more complaints about the new van I hear!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Use the Ody for those short trips, drive it in to the ground. Why not? Nothing to lose at this point.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Funny thing about that. Older mechanical things like to be used regularly, not placed on the shelf. We were alternating between the three vehicles, and I find that both the OBW and the Ody brakes oxidize rapidly and have to be scraped clean if they sit for more that 2-3 days. Horrible grinding noise from the pad imprint, and it takes a few miles of repetitive braking before it smooths out. Probably from all the salt and the wild temp & humidity swings we are having now. I know that if we stay at 3 cars, we'll be replacing brakes a lot more often.

    Emily could be driving in a year or so, but at the same time I don't want a new driver in a multi-seat vehicle.

    I guess I'll continue to drive around with the For Sale sign in the window, and see if someone wants to throw money at me.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We have 3 cars but they all get used at least weekly, plus the oldest is an 07, so we don't really have that issue, fortunately.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    Emily could be driving in a year or so, but at the same time I don't want a new driver in a multi-seat vehicle.

    It's a van... just take the extra seats out! :P
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    We talked about stripping the interior to just driver & passenger seats. It's one option.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You'll have an enclosed pickup. :D

    On the Sienna boards I've seen people remove the 3rd row completely and install a plywood "door" there instead, so you have storage in the well as well as a flat floor that is 4'x8' in size.

    You get 150 cubic feet plus the well, which ain't small...
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    My MIL has two Chevy Astro vans. One is her daily driver which is whatever the last year they made them... and the other used to be her daily driver and it's now a 'truck' because they don't own a truck.

    A van with only the two front seats has a boatload of room. I've used it several times!

    Anyway, obviously I'm all in favor of this suggested use. :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    For a while my brother managed a Sherwan-Williams store and they had a hollowed out 15 passenger Chevy van.

    You could play racquetball inside that thing.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    No one has mentioned the issue of teenagers and ... dare I say ... mattresses and how well they fit in the back of an empty van.

    I think a Miata would be better. Actually a smart car. :shades:
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    :surprise:

    Oh, right. It's becoming longer and longer since I was a teen....

    Then again, I was an unusually responsible teen, so antics such as those never seriously crossed my mind. And I did have my own cargo van, with a bed in it no less, back then! Okay, I'll admit, I still have that van. :blush:
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think ahead:

    Miata (no back seat)
    Individual home theater seating

    I'm sure teenagers will find a place if given too much freedom!
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Emily could be driving in a year or so, but at the same time I don't want a new driver in a multi-seat vehicle.

    Then there's even more room to cram in extra kids, the kegs, the beer pong table, et al........

    Heck I once had 8 in a Pontiac Sunbird!!
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    edited April 2011
    As a teen, I packed 8-9 into my dad's new Ford Maverick, and split the seam on the front seat! My dad somehow didn't see it for a few day (he usually commuted to and from work in the dark in the winter), and then stormed the Ford dealership to show them the crappy workmanship of a product that split seams on a cold day. He got a new seat out of it, and I didn't fess up until about 30 years later.

    Truth telling time came around the Thanksgiving table a few years ago when my sister and I made a contest out of which one of us got away with the biggest scams as a kid! I think a few beers helped.... She won (some of her antics even surprised me), but the seat splitting car packing job probably got the most laughs.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    *grabs for popcorn*

    Tell us more about what she revealed. LOL
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Hmm, got you guys beat. 11 in a Nissan Maxima. (uh, 2 people in the trunk- do they count?)

    I forgot how dumb you can be when you're a teenager!

    I guess it's why I don't trust teenage drivers!

    tom
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Some of you surely know the lyric from the B-52s' Love Shack, "I got me a Chrysler, it seats about 20..."

    In my neighborhood when I was a kid back in the mid 70s, one of the families had a Chrysler Newport station wagon. We definitely had 15 in there once. The oldest son had his license, so one day, he was driving around the block and whenever he saw one of us outside, he'd yell "Get in!" We were hanging out of every window of that car.

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    I had a '66 Newport and it could hold ALL of the band equipment for a seven piece rock band PLUS 4 of the band members :shades:

    One time I was driving with my kids and we saw a '66 parked at a mall, so I took them over to look at it, and my oldest daughter asked, "We the roads bigger back then??" :P
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,680
    A '72 Lincoln Continental coupe could hold six full-grown teenagers in the trunk.... easily... they could sit up and play poker, if they wanted...

    Sneaking them out, once you got in the drive-in was the issue....

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Well at the time, I had a guitar amp that had a speaker cabinet with 4 - 10" speakers. It was roughly 32" wide, 38-40" tall, and 15" deep. Not only could it fit through the door openings of the Newport, it cold lay flat on one sideof the rear seat
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    sounds like the trunk on DH's 97 Towne Car ...

    we just returned from a road trip to Texas for Spring Break ... about 3000 miles since last Saturday afternoon ... when we left here it was sleeting and by the time we got to Arkansas it was a withering 90 degrees .... we actually had some cooler weather for a few days in Texas and then back home again where it was 80 when we got home about 7 PM but now is 76 and cooling off ... low tomorrow night of 38 ... lol
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    edited April 2011
    The timing belt on my Escort snapped while my children and I were in town on Saturday. It was interesting timing, since we had just driven through a rather sizable lake (probably 6-8" deep in the middle) that was covering one of the local roads. I took it easy, hoping to avoid sucking water into the intake by splashing it up. I thought all was good, then about 100 yards down the road the car just died. No stuttering, just running perfectly to running not at all. I thought for sure the two events must be related!

    I coasted it down the road a while, trying to restart on the fly, but it was giving me nothing (sounded like it was flooded, actually), so I pulled off onto a business parking lot that was vacant for the weekend. I did a quick inspection and verified that it was not water in the intake, then decided just to walk with the kids down to the feed store (our original destination) about a mile, maybe a mile + 0.5, down the road. It was sunny, about 40 degrees, so it was a nice day for a walk. We even had the added bonus of considerate drivers that drove around puddles rather than drenching us on the sidewalk! I have to think it was my 3-year-old daughter that generated that sympathy. ;)

    Anyway, my wife came and picked us up at the feed store after I called her from the phone there, and on the way home I had an epiphany... it was most likely the timing belt that broke! Fairly certain my diagnosis was correct at this point, I decided to look for options to get it home rather than monkeying around with it in that parking lot. I located a friend in town with a car dolly today, and was able to bring home my Escort with our Forester. Seriously... I have photo proof! The Forester even made it up our ice/slush driveway; the thing is nigh-unto-unstoppable!

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,773
    edited April 2011
    Yep.... it was the timing belt! The 2.0L SPI engine is non-interference, though, so it should be an easy fix.
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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Interesting. When was the last time you had the belt replaced? Or was it never replaced? What's the replacement schedule that Ford recommends?

    Bob
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    If you just wore a tie, you could have fixed it on the spot. :shades:
  • colin_lcolin_l Member Posts: 591
    Yeah, I would think this is more than coincidence. If you didn't ingest water, you can still break a timing belt if water gets inside the cover.
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