Hyundai Santa Fe 2007+

dgrunt5513 · December 2005

Has anyone heard from dealers, industry sources, etc. about whether or not Hyundai will offer Navigation option with the upcoming Santa Fe? Also, any ideas on pricing? Lastly, I realize the new Santa Fe will offer a third row of seats but any word on how the new model will compare to previous years in regards to cubic feet?

jhyytianinen · December 2005

I was just looking back at the older post and I think I found my answer to my dismay. That might be a deal killer for me. Its something small but I really dont like the way it looks with body colored door trim. TO me it looks cheap and it breaks up the design of the windows and the way it flows down the side. It makes it look like a Jeep or something. Thats one of the reasons I dont like the current gen Santa Fe. Either that or I have to by black and tint the windows. Mike, I know all is up in the air till the auto show but according to your sources, is the lack of door trim for the US a definite? Seems stupid to me that they would have it in Korea where it just plains looks better and not have the samething here.

jhyytianinen · December 2005

The Tuscon has blacked out b and c pillars. Is it just me that thinks it looks stupid with body colored pillars?

jhyytianinen · December 2005

Does anyone know if those tailights are LEDs? Its on my wish list if they do change anything for the US market! I saw aftermarket LED tail lights for the new Sonata. They looked pretty sweet!

jhyytianinen · December 2005

...nevermind, I took a double look at another of the photos that are take from an angle and its clearly not LEDs...poop. Does anyone know what the Korean model designations equal for a US model? I think there was SLX, MLX and something else?

mike_belknap · December 2005

"The Korean site mention it had HIDs."

Yes: in Korea, tungsten-halogens are standard and high-intensity discharge (HID) headlamps are optional.

"Is that the same as a Xenon head light like the luxury cars that emit that blue light?"

Well, I guess it could be put this way: all true HIDs are xenons. They use xenon gas and two electrodes instead of a filament. As an electrical arc passes between the electrodes, the gas reacts and lights up brightly with that brilliant green/blue/purple aura that you love. Also unlike conventional halogens, HIDs produce ultraviolet light in addition to visible wavelengths, which adds definition in regards to reflective materials (e.g. stop signs); they tend to last quite a bit longer too (like, years) and provide better general visibility. One drawback is cost -- which is why I doubt they will make it here... at least for the Santa Fe, anyway.

"Does anyone know if those cupholders with the ring of blue ambient light is production of just show and if theres a posibility of it making it stateside?"

I'm not sure yet -- I surely hope so.

"Has anyone heard from dealers, industry sources, etc. about whether or not Hyundai will offer Navigation option with the upcoming Santa Fe?"

A navigation system will be available through your dealer.

"Also, any ideas on pricing?"

Nothing official yet, but various sources have indicated that $24K-28K is the target range.

"...any word on how the new model will compare to previous years in regards to cubic feet?"

I'll try to find out.

"...but I really dont like the way it looks with body colored door trim."

Don't worry: the B- and C-pillars will be black for the USDM. Have you seen a 2006 Santa Fe yet? It's that same thing there now -- check it out here.

"Does anyone know what the Korean model designations equal for a US model?"

They won't really line-up too well at all. Depending on which "inside source" you ask, we'll either be getting an SE and a Limited, or a GLS, SE, and Limited.

"I think there was SLX, MLX and something else?"

CLX is that base trim for the KDM.

Mike

jhyytianinen · December 2005

Mike, you are freakin awesome! Just short of a test drive I've pretty much got all the information I could possibly need on the vehicle right now and its all from you! Thank you so much, and if your ever in Hawaii, I'll take you around! Again, much thanks for all the info.

...makes me think. If xenon is optional in the KDM model, than maybe it can be imported. I'm going to tell the dealer to send you the commision for the vehicle! Thanks again Mike-cheers- John H from Oahu-----

I don't think I'll post for while, just read unless something comes up because he answered all my questions but to all, Mele Kalikimaka (Merry Christmas in Hawaiian)!

speedy_john · December 2005

Hey, Guys? Check This Video...

http://www.motordic.com/contentsdata/88/20051201194440_3i0.wmv

zumsel · December 2005

Is there already a comparison available between the 2006 models and the all new 2007 Santa Fe prices in Korea?

Thanks Jochen

noshy · December 2005

Hi, i am new in this forum,
while i was checking the korean web side of Santa fe, i just converting what they paying over there,

for the 4WD MLX (GLX)was

29,980,000.00 KRW
South Korea Won

= 29,082.864 USD
United States Dollars

and for 4WD SLX (LX):

33,030,000.00 KRW
South Korea Won

= 32,040.776 USD :surprise:
United States Dollars

we maybe will pay same or more for this new Santa Fe,

maybe i am wrong? :confuse:

wheelz4 · December 2005

You've been a great source of info/pics, and I'm almost sold on the new Sante Fe.....my choice is pretty much down to that or the new Rav4. Depends on things like price (Toyota Canada raised prices over 6% from 2005 to 2006 compared to Toyota USA's 1%, so they're not doing us any favours up here), fuel economy (the new Rav is pretty impressive, even with the V6....I'm hoping the Sante Fe will be close). Do you know anything about the 2nd row seat... specifically, does it adjust fore & aft like the one in the Rav4, so you can max out 2nd row leg room when you're not using the 3rd seat but also slide it forward to get a reasonable compromise in leg room between the 2nd & 3rd rows when you're using the 3rd row?

guyf · December 2005

Toyota must be ripping us off as the Canadian dollar exchange rate is much stronger now than last year. It should have been the opposite; a 6% rise in the US and a 1% in Canada...

chuckie1 · December 2005

hey all looks well,

I am jus really concerned about the price...
Hyundai has a very good product, I know I currently own 2 Santa Fe's - his and hers....
I have been tracking the 07 development,and i am really concerned with the price. I have seen santa fe just rolling off the lot, all due to a good price. I really hope hyundai doesn't spoil it.
Good price they got 2 sales in 07...

jhyytianinen · December 2005

oh well, so much for not posting heh...I was reading back at the older post and remeber that spyspot that edmunds.com
that showed a Santa Fe test mule (or whatever its called) that had some pretty nice looking (and large sized, at least 18s) 5 spoke rims on it. Does anyone know if thats comming to America?

me_and_g35 · December 2005

As current Santa Fe owner, you are better off than other Hyundai buyers. Hyundai will probably offer Value Owner Coupon on 2007 Santa Fe as they did on brand-new Azeras. Even with 7-seat configuration, 07 Santa Fe would be substantially under 30K.

mike_belknap · December 2005

Thou dost speak of the 5-spoke 19-or-so-inchers, dost thou not?
Very nice.
If they do make it, one will likely have to select a "Premium Sports Package" or the like to get them -- a price I'm sure many'd be willing to pay.

Mike

jhyytianinen · December 2005

19"'ers huh? Yup, they sure looked pretty in the spyshots. Definately something I'm looked for. Not that those Lexus RX350 knock off rims weren't nice either, but I'm glad Hyundai went for a more sporty look for the vehicle. Geez, theres enough "macho" suvs in market as it were. When I looked over the Korean site, I didnt see them there so I was curious. Very nice indeed!

jhyytianinen · December 2005

speedy_john...thats a really cook video, thanks for posting it. Watching that makes me really hope those HIDs come to the US. Doesnt the Azera have HIDs as well? Gawdm this SUV is so eye turning!

jhyytianinen · December 2005

Damnit...I realy need to spell check, that an not post after midnight half asleep! Sorry, I meant to say thats a really cool video!

jhyytianinen · December 2005

Maybe I saw it wrong, but did that short video say something about a intercooled turbocharger?

mike_belknap · December 2005

"Doesnt the Azera have HIDs as well?"

No, the Azera actually only comes with projector-beam halogen headlamps in the US. It's mainly for this reason that I doubt the Santa Fe will sport HIDs when it goes on sale here. Of course, if they wanna surprise me....

"...did that short video say something about a intercooled turbocharger?"

Yes: "Variable Geometry Turbocharger intercooler," or VGT. The KDM version has (as most other markets will) the 2.2-liter VGT CRDi diesel engine, but the USDM Santa Fe won't -- at least not at launch.

BTW, NAIAS starts in only three weeks!

Mike

saafedt3 · December 2005

Mike,

Do you have an idea today, what time the Santa Fe 2007 SUV will be available for purchase? I have been following the thread with great interest - awesome info, but I'm eager to buy now

Thanks,

Thomas

mike_belknap · December 2005

Well, the best thing I can tell you is somewhere between April and July.
Hyundai, though, has been notorious of late for making last-minute changes which usually lead to a delay in vehicle launch. This has apparently already occurred with the new Santa Fe, as original predictions placed its sales date around February (note that this was not publicly announced, however). The next set of info had the on-sale-date in the springtime (which was officially released) -- March at the earliest, May at the latest. Last I heard, "mid-2006" is the current target, and with major advertisements supposedly beginning no later than the 1st of July, I think we'll most likely begin seeing them on lots in mid-June.
I'm hoping they'll announce something at NAIAS in three weeks. In the meantime, though, my best guess is June... -ish.

Mike

mike_belknap · December 2005

Hey John,

I'm not sure if you'd consider this relevant information or not, but the "EN" (MY2007 larger-than-Santa Fe CUV) clearly will have LED taillights, as seen in this and this image.

Mike

me_and_g35 · December 2005

It will be probably later than May.

The new Accent will be the next. Then probably the Entourage (the minivan.) Then Santa Fe will be released in early 3rd quarter. At least, the time will give Hyundai to work out all the kinks in Santa Fe in the Korean market.......

backy · December 2005

That makes a lot of sense, as it lets Hyundai space out their new models next year--one per quarter.

mike_belknap · December 2005

According to this press release, it would seem that you're correct(top of page 4):
"The next generation Santa Fe sport utility will go on sale on Hyundai's home turf of
South Korea late this year and in the third quarter of 2006 in the U.S., Krafcik said."

So as it turns out, the July estimate is probably accurate.

As an aside, I went to a local dealer yesterday and saw an '06 Accent -- it was silver with an automatic transmission and air conditioning. (They were closed of course, being that it was a Sunday, so I could only look through the windows.) I was impressed with the apparent amount of headroom and the visible interior fit and finish. The seat upholstery at least looked durable, comfortable. Truly, apart from having manual window cranks, it seemed like a much nicer, more expensive car than its $14,750 MSRP would suggest.

Mike

hmma007 · December 2005

I can tell ya that the 07 Santa Fe drive very nice.

hmma007 · December 2005

The seats do fold flat making for a very nice cargo area. The rear seats/rear windshield shouldn't be an issue from the 07 Santa Fe's I've seen.

mike_belknap · December 2005

Thank you very much for the info! Say, do you work for Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama?

Mike

jkwon · December 2005

delta4 · December 2005

jkwon - There is a problem with the links. try re-posting these pics.

mike_belknap · January 2006

Click here to see images of the first USDM-spec Santa Fes (the first 3 photos, anyway).

Some good news:
1. steering-wheel audio controls include a SEEK feature(!)

2. Hyundai wisely chose to not use the bright amber taillight blinkers seen in some pre-production units

3. the chrome-trimmed grille made the cut

4. the B- and C-pillars are blacked out

Other observations (that I figured may be taken either positively or negatively):

5. the use of cherry wood has increased inside (at least for the shown interior color theme and trim)

6. the c-stack has changed from aluminum to black

7. the red seat-piping doesn't seem to have made the cut -- for this color/trim, anyway (at least to my eyes)

I personally am thrilled that they brought that deep red color over.

Mike

navigator89 · January 2006

Mike, thanks for the pictures. The Santa Fe looks great and will be a worthy competitor to the others.

Happy New Year.

delta4 · January 2006

Great shots of what will be a highly successful re-design. I think the new '07 Santa Fe clearly positions Hyundai in a new and different class. The steering wheel "seek" controls should eventually migrate over to the Sonata, as well as some of the handsome interior.

This is one sweeeeet looking machine.

pillar · January 2006

Dear All,

Hi...Happy New Year. I was found out Hyundai was notify New Santa Fe will world wide lanch on July 2007 incl Car Show in USA.

All models incl. 2.2 VGT , 2.7 V6 Petrol ( 4 AT )

& 3.3 V6 Petrol ( 5AT )

.....

http://auto.163.com/05/1202/11/23VBHH4E000816HQ.html :shades:

Pillar

jshin · January 2006

Check this out

http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b12/data/hyundai_motor/national1136258751.jpg

opirus1 · January 2006

the picture above is not related to Hyundai...

mike_belknap · January 2006

They're crazy-good chops, with admirable attention to detail, but chops nonetheless -- check out the disjointed reflections in the far windows of the black versions and the not-so-well-integrated taillights of the white vehicles. The idea here is to show what the '07 Terracan-replacement might look like. Unfortunately for the artist(s), however, they don't line-up at all with the "EN" spy shots.
Anyway, I think that they're partly based on some of Hyundai's (and some Hyundai fans') concept vehicles and partly on the new Santa Fe -- some of the details and overall agreement and symmetry between the images I find just a little too good to have been made mostly from scratch (an elaborate three-dimensional model would likely have been necessary to get all of the photos to line-up this seamlessly). A great design on the whole, and I congratulate its creator(s) for a job well-done.
Ultimately, though, the photos are not real.

Mike

globaladv · January 2006

hallo...u've posted here an excellent movie...thanks.

mike_belknap · January 2006

Some confirmations have been made concerning the US-spec model (we knew most of this, but it's nice to get the official word):

*Standard 2.7-liter V6 w/ 5-speed manual transmission; available 4-speed automatic
*Available 3.3-liter V6 w/5-speed automatic
*5- and 7-passenger versions will be available
*Options to include: dual-zone climate control, rain-sensing windshield wipers, & power-adjustable pedals
*DVD entertainment system will be standard or available
*rear-suspension multi-link w/self-levelers
1:30 p.m.

Mike

navigator89 · January 2006

Mike, what are the horsepower ratings for both engines?

delta4 · January 2006

Here are some details from the official press release of the all new '07 Santa Fe:

As per Hyundai the official two engine choices:

New 2.7 V6 VVT (variable valve timing)engine producing 180 hp@180 1b. ft torque, std 5 spd manual trans & optional 4 spd auto.

3.3 V6 VVT producing 230 hp and 220 1b. ft torque, 5 spd auto.

Available all wheel drive. steering wheel audio controls which include "seek" function as well as well as auto leveling suspension, tilt, telescopic, auto climate controls system, DVD entertainment system, wireless headset plus much, much more goodies.

Here are Links to the follwing sites:

Official Hyundai USA '07 Santa Fe website

Auto deadline Hyundai press release

backy · January 2006

The GLS looks well-equipped, except no 7-passenger option. Also I am surprised that the 2.7L engine will have only 180 hp--I have heard of 200 hp with that engine in other applications, e.g. 2007 Optima.

If they can keep the GLS price around $20k, that would be pretty compelling.

delta4 · January 2006

backy if you check out the hyundai USA Santa Fe link you'll see that 7 row passenger seat option is available for the GLS under the Features & Specs/OPTIONS section of the website.

I agree with you on the 2.7 180 hp seems very low to move this rig. We'll have to wait for some ride and drive reports from Edmunds.

backy · January 2006

Well, I did check out that link and the only option package I saw for the GLS was a Premium package with a moonroof and heated seats. Where are you seeing the 7-passenger option for the GLS? I only see that option for the SE and Limited.

norne · January 2006

Where does it fit? Is the dimension similar to highlander, pilot, or the murano?

delta4 · January 2006

"Well, I did check out that link and the only option package I saw for the GLS was a Premium package with a moonroof and heated seats." backy.

backy you are correct. I was looking under the SE list. I like the available options though. I'm starting to wonder whether the numbers are final on the 2.7 V6 since this is not just a warmed over version of the previous V6. Could Hyundai possibly boost the number on the new 2.7 to an even 200? it would seem to make more sense from a marketing perspective.

backy · January 2006

Sure, Hyundai could boost the number up to 200 hp. Remember back a few years ago when many of the Hyundai engines were advertised as having higher horsepower than they really did? I got a $100 debit card from Hyundai out of that one.

mike_belknap · January 2006

"Mike, what are the horsepower ratings for both engines?"

Here are the preliminary powertrain specs:

GLS
Engine: Mu, tranverse-mounted
Type: aluminum bolck, aluminum-alloy V6
Displacement: 2.7-liters
Horsepower: 183
Torque: >180 lb-ft.
Valve train: 24-valve DOHC w/CVVT
Fuel system: electronic multi-point programmed fuel injection
Ignition system: electronic
Drive configuration: front, all
Transmission type: 5-speed manual, 4-speed automatic w/Shiftronic

SE & Limited
Engine: Lambda, tranverse-mounted
Type: aluminum bolck, aluminum-alloy V6
Displacement: 3.3-liters
Horsepower: 238
Torque: >220 lb-ft.
Valve train: 24-valve DOHC w/CVVT
Fuel system: electronic multi-point programmed fuel injection
Ignition system: electronic
Drive configuration: front, all
Transmission type: 5-speed automatic w/Shiftronic

Mike

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