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Jeep Liberty Power Windows
spinnakerbaybe
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Let me first say that I love my 2006 Liberty. I have had my Liberty since December of 2006. In the past 11 months I have taken her in four times, each time to fix each of my 4 power windows because they fall off the track. My dealer says that this is common in hot weather (I live in AZ) as the part that keeps this from happening deteriorates in hot weather and since this is selective in occurrence, a recall is not possible. I am getting ready to take her back again as my driver's side window is showing signs of slippage again. Anyone else have this issue and what are our recourses? My warranty is up next month and then no freebie repairs on this chronic problem. What to do?????
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My 2006 Liberty is on 3 windows in 10,000 miles. First and last Chrysler product for me.
Let me know how you make out...wluken@nc.rr.com. Thanks.
With the method I am talking about the mating surfaces of the glass and the frame need to be very clean. The strip needs to be accurately positioned and the window needs to be bottomed out in the groove.
What to do?????
Your might stop by or call an auto body supply store and ask what they are using these days to hold automotive window glass in the frame and see if the dealer’s story holds water. Our local store is called “Auto Body Supply” and they have it all.
Then try to make sure the dealer is using the right stuff.
Thank you
As an aside, I was told that the Liberty uses the same window regulators as the Mercedes M-Class. My husband has an M-Class that we have had constant problems with as well (to include the window regulator). This appears to be a systemic problem with Daimler Crysler and it needs to be recalled! I don't want to be shelling out $400 bucks every time this goes out after the warranty expires.
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I have another problem with the paint though...I have a whole bunch of tiny rust spots (I have a white Liberty) all over the car. It is actually pretty amazing how the paint is so uniformally dotted with them. You can't see them unless you get really close to the paint, but I don't want to wait until it gets worse. Has anyone ever heard of this problem before? My neighbor thinks it might be a paint defect...I live in Phoenix, Arizona, so there is absolutely no reason my car should be rusting...Thanks for everyone's help!!
Sherwin-Williams has an interesting link about it.
We were also told that Chrysler does not have an email address -- if someone has one -- we would also like to join in and email them regarding this. The dealership told us to crack the window down and/or clean a "film" that appears on it every once in a while. This is ridiculous and is something that Chrysler should be accountable for...one service rep asked if we considered buying a new vehicle.
We're are so glad we found this forum -- at least we know that we are not the only ones (and not only in AZ) having this problem.
dmaru
Phx AZ
Welcome to the Jeep Liberty Power Windows Suck Forum! It is quite evident that this problem is across the US and not just in AZ like you and I have been told. I hope to be able to print out this entire thread and present it to Damlier somehow someway. I'm doing well to just make my car payment every month and can't even fathom having to pay for regulators on a regular basis or allowing my car to be exposed to the elements because I can't put up my windows. I even met a Liberty owner who has told me that she won't even roll down her windows anymore because she's afraid that they won't go back up and she can't afford to have to pay for repairs. I've even thought about printing up business cards that direct Liberty owners to log on and present their case on this thread. I would give these cards to any Liberty owner that I meet at gas stations or parking lots or put them on windshields of Liberty's. This way people won't feel like they're alone with this expensive glitch of owning a Liberty.
Problem being, they don't screw the threaded plastic end into the threaded channel far enuff, or they do and further handling results in it backing out by at least one full thread, prolly caused by the natural curvature of the flex-shaft - I de-riveted the replacement for the required correction - maybe it'll hang awhile.
Gmctd is one of the more knowledgeable posters on the LOST forum. There is also mention on other forums about a class action lawsuit against VW for a similar problem where VW lost the suit and had to reimburse customers and extend the warrantee on the window mechanism. I have not verified this for myself. Apparently someone came up with a cheaper way to construct window regulators and it's not such a great idea after all.
Why cut corners on something a fundamentally important as windows? But wait, DC took a similar risk on ball joints that are even more important to function and safety over the objection of top Chrysler engineers. :sick:
I shared my sentiments with Chrysler just for a place to vent. Essentially nothing came out of it other than the fact it is "documented" now. :mad:
Went to have the second one repaired and requested that every single window be fixed and inspected. Which they did.
A few months later my driver's side front window did the same, and you just about couldnt get it to go back up.
I still had warranty, so I insisted every window be fixed.
Guess what? Now the driver's side window is messing up again. It's only been a couple week.
The Hyundai is looking better all the time.........
I had all four windows done. Two went bad, and I insisted the other two be fixed even though they were ok. Like you, I went out to find one off the track and down and then the front one just wasnt about to go back up.
Now that they fixed it, the front one is making a sort of grating sound. I dont know what it is. It sounds like it is creaking when I drive along.
I wonder if it is going to go bad again.
I almost had a 2007 Hyundai last weekend. Just almost able to get what I need out of this Jeep and trade up a bit. But I cant quite afford the Hyundai. The Jeep value isnt so hot.
I told my husband, the minute the thing is out of warranty I need to ditch it fast.
My 07 Liberty Limited is going in to the dealer in 2-days for her 12,000 mile maintenance check-up. Such a wonderful car - but - a couple of days ago I tried to power up the drivers side window and it made slow motor sounds and stopped about 1/2 way up. I was able to get it all the way up by slightly pressing my hand against the glass and pressing - I tried it again so I could demonstrate the event to my husband when he got home from work. He said not to power it down and up again as it sounded like it was going to break. Geeze. It is under warranty but I don't like hearing that it will happen to all 4 windows and maybe time and time again. Should've bought that Wrangler with canvas doors!!!!
Oh, P.S. We live in middle Tennessee. Libby is always kept in the garage and it is only June 3 - so - Libby has never even been really hot. I don't even roll the window down very often - sometimes at the ATM drive thru - so it isn't fatigue.
I'm crying! My daughter has a 2001 VW Jetta that had window problems (they actually fell down into the door and crashed! VW recalled all of them and fixed the problem. She had a passenger side window fall into the door and crash while she was driving. At least VW recalled all of them and fixed them - that was about 4 years ago and they have all done well since the fix. Course now, she is having fuel system problems b'cause of 10% ethenol & the automatic transmission is about to go.
Is there a perfect car - other than my 97 Miata that is?
I e-mailed Daimler-Chrysler this a.m. and referred them to this web site and told them about the large number of dissatisfied customers. I told them the ethical step to take was to fix their problem and make their customers happy. I am awaiting a reply but I tell you this, complaining among ourselves does absolutely no good Every single one of us is capable of contacting this company and telling them what our problem is. Strength in Numbers! Write them, on their Jeep site, today!!!
I have warranty left, but I am determined to bail on this vehicle before I invest any money in it. And I did complain via the Web to their web site. I doubt it will do any good. At least around here, the dealership refuses to even admit to any problems. They said this web site and this forum was totally meaningless and they will not even talk about it.
It is truly sad.
Less than 6 months later the same window (drivers side back window) slipped back into the door. I was the only one in the jeep and I did not touch any of the window buttons. This cost me another $100.00 + I had to rent a vehicle because the dealership did not have the part for almost a week.
This past Friday, I was driving to pick up my niece and nephew to go out of town and my passenger side back window began to fall into the window. I had to stop off on the side of the highway and push the window up several times, especailly since the parish road I was driving on (I live in Louisiana) had lots of bumps. When I returned last night I dropped my vehicle off and it is going to cost me $100.00 again and I had to rent a vehicle for the day again.
I feel that this is a sign from my loving deceased brother Michael telling me to get rid of this Jeep Junk and buy a GMC or Chevy product. As soon as I can decide on what I want I plan on doing just that before this vehcile costs me any more. My warranty will soon run out I have about 2,000 more miles and about 5 more months which ever comes first. :sick: :sick: :sick: :lemon: :confuse:
So, folks, it's a start. Please, write and politely complain to them. It will have an affect!!!!!
John Schwendler
good luck.
ALSO... if you go to www.safercar.gov you can file a complaint for the NHTSA to look into a recall investigation. I just filed several for my 06 Liberty.
Problem being, they don't screw the threaded plastic end into the threaded channel far enuff, or they do and further handling results in it backing out by at least one full thread, prolly caused by the natural curvature of the flex-shaft - I de-riveted the replacement for the required correction - maybe it'll hang awhile.
Alright the above quote describes only half of the problem, a weak structure. The other half of the problem is that the electric windows on the Liberty (my ’05 Liberty at least) roll up with way too much force! Using my hand as a sacrificial testing device I rolled up the driver side front window yeeoow! :surprise: These windows roll up with serious force and the force is maintained! It is a good thing that the window controls are located in the center where they are hard to reach because a child could seriously be injured by these windows if the controls were on the doors where a child can reach.
I tried the same test on a Suzuki Vitara and the windows roll up with less than half of the force of the Liberty. I also tried a VW Jetta and the windows roll up a little lighter than the Vitara, detect the pressure and roll back down – so Jetta windows are pressure limited.
There is no shut-off of any kind on my Liberty windows. They just roll up and stall. If I hit the switch again pressure is applied again - no shut-off. I can actually see the front door panel flex slightly from the pressure. When the window is rolled down the panel flexes again as the pressure is released.
Here’s a suggestion. When you roll up your windows release the button instantly when the window stalls at the top. Then flick the switch quickly/briefly in the other direction but not enough to activate the auto-down. You might hear (with the engine off) a slight nump (sic) as the pressure is released and the window may or may not move very slightly. Releasing the pressure might prevent your windows from failing when not in use or when you hit a bump in the road. I am suggesting this as a stop-gap measure until a real cure is found.
Btw, I got an Email from Chrysler too.
They suggested I get another opinion at a Five Star Jeep Dealership.
The dealership I use *is* a Five Star Dealership.
They told me the people who answer emails are not even in the USA.
Yesterday they finally admitted Jeeps have problems with windows and stained seats at the dealership.
This after previously blaming the rain in my city, and saying no one on the web knew what they were talking about.
I cant wait until I get rid of this thing, but right now I dont think I have a choice.
In fact, they said they laugh because it is a big joke.
I am at 24000 now on an 06, and I just dread being out of warranty with this thing.
My spouse says we will be just fine. Easy for him to say, he just bought a nice sports car type thing! and he hated taking vehicles in for repairs over and over.
I see it coming down the road.
I want my Hyundai, or something.....
I dont know if a class action will work?
question: is this repair, on both windows covered under the warranty? i am not working, there are no jobs in Florida now, and i can not afford to pay to have them fixed. i asked the service manager and he said he "thinks" it covered, i don't want any surprises when i go to pick it up. thank you so much for answering if you know!
beachpatty
Have not paid on dime for any of this.
Yes, the regulator is the problem because after they fixed my driver side window the first time, it was making horrible horrible noises. I took it in and they insisted they couldnt find any problems. I got with them on the phone, and said yes, it is making noises go fix it.
Lo and Behold they decided the regulator needed fixing. Hadnt they already done that?
It's an ongoing problem which apparently happens a lot and so an extended warranty or trading in the vehicle is going to be the only option.