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Nissan Pathfinder Transmission Problems



  • bmoney69bmoney69 Posts: 1
    just went thru the whole thing. NNA didn't do anything to help, wasted a week of my time. just got my 2005 pathfinder back after a month of service and $4100. is there a class action las suite for this does anyone know?
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    edited April 2010
    Yes, someone has already started a list and we are on it!! Take a look at message #281 and you'll find a name and e-mail address.
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    Here is a funny one ~

    In the mail yesterday we received a sales promo letter from our local Nissan dealer addressed to us personally as an "exclusive customer". They are offering blue book + up to $1,500 if we trade in our 2005 Nissan Pathfinder.

    I guess they haven't checked their service lot since it has been sitting there now for 3 weeks!!!

    HA HA LOL :P
  • stevlllstevlll Posts: 5

    Just took my 05 Pathfinder in to the dealer, same issue, the transmission fluid leaking into the radiator and vice versa due to broken radiator. They say that they will replace the radiator under warranty but not the transmission. To me it does not make any sense, as water from the rad has obviously been in the transmission for months, corroding seals, metal and electronic equipment. I called the dealer on it and they told me that they have to follow the 'standard procedure' as set out by Nissan Canada - which I guess means replace the rad, flush the transmission and send me on my way to see what happens. I talked with the mechanic and he had nothing good to say about this issue - he was obviously well aware of it.

    I called a couple of transmission guys who told me that in this situation the transmission is completely written off and it will last for a while but not long. I cannot find anyone on this web site who has replaced the radiator without having to replace the transmission. Also, if I Google 'water in transmission' I see that clutch plate material will debond, corrosion will happen and then there is a computer called a TCM that is located inside the transmission - imagine what will happen if that gets saturated.

    I think this is a safety issue, since we lost power for three seconds on the freeway in rain, heavy traffic and evening darkness. It seems like this is getting worse by the day as more and more people have this issue. I took the car in to the dealer in November '09 with the problem but 'could not replicate' Importantly, they did the test AFTER the scheduled transmission flush which would make sense to me that they would not be able to replicate.

    I am writing this as there are obviously people who have had their transmission and radiator replaced by Nissan. I would appreciate getting your contact info so that I can use that as an example to show that there are cases where Nissan has owned this 'farce' and done the right thing.
  • gharpmangharpman Posts: 88
    After calling Nissan North America a few times and working with my dealer, had both replaced. Both under warranty, but I paid 1/2 Dealer labor cost ($450). Sounds like a good deal, but, I shouldn't have paid anything. I sent e-mails to local TV stations and my Congressman in Washington , DC. also reported it to DOT in Washington.

    If everyone with this problem starts making a fuss and contacting their reps etc, maybe Nissan will have to recall the vehicles.
  • stacy20stacy20 Posts: 15
    That's weird they will replace the radiator and not the transmission under warranty. Your transmission has to still be under warranty if the radiator is, right? How many miles are on the Pathfinder? It took me 3 weeks of serious arguing with Nissan NA for them to agree to pay for both my radiator and transmission. Keep going up the chain of command and be persistent (which everyone on this site told me and it worked). It's totally their fault and they need to fix it and they know it but will do their best to get you to give up before they will do the right thing. Good luck!
  • 99accent99accent Posts: 237
    I haven't had the problem yet, maybe because I have 2003 , however when Toyota had there gas accelerator problem and then more people got up in arms, maybe this is what you and all the rest of the unhappy pathfinder owners have to do,follow the suit that made Toyota give in or else. just an opinionated idea to help everyone.
  • alisonlalisonl Posts: 30
    Well Well. So- fuel pump. Replaced it in 2007. Paid for it. Now there is a recall. My vehicle not in recall. go figure.
    Now, at 114000 miles I feel the vibration. Take it to York, Pa Apple Nissan. They tell me my tires are cupped but recommend a transmission flush. I say what?? ? But agreed to the flush. Not two months later, same vibration (not the tires, Im not stupid) but then the oil change mechanic said wow, you have milky substance in ur radiator. My father looked at it and said um, not good.
    So, I called Selingsgrove Nissan, Pa. They said, oh yes, we know. We are aware, bring it in, itll take 30 mins to check it out and verify. So I took it in and yes, its screwed! Need new transmission. They told me, however, that its a temperature coil thats placed inside the radiator thats the problem!!! If it were located w/ the transmission, the tranny warranty would cover it. BUT Nissan has been saying since its location is inside the radiator that they wont cover it! GARBAGE!!!!!! Anyway, I now have another regional Nissan specialist looking into it. Big deal, right? Well, Im ticked that Apple nissan two months ago had me spend a couple hundred for a flush and now I have to repay for the new transmission. I DONT THINK SO! I said I want my vehicle under the recall, I want my money back for the flush and now I want them to assist if not pay for all of this tranny business crap.
    IM FURIOUS! There are federal trade laws against selling parts of anything that are faulty!!!!! I think Ill take my little veterans benefits and get a lawyer w/ it and file civil suit. I cant affort thousands to keep my car running that I worked hard to pay for! If it were natural wear and tear then so be it. But ill be damn if I entrusted a large name like Nissan to have them screw me/us all around! Once the regional manager contacts me on Friday..thatll be it. Ill call the news station and bring light on it.

    Ill keep you all posted. BTW, I was quoted about $4000 for the transmission replacement total.
  • stevlllstevlll Posts: 5
    Stacy20 - Thanks for the reply. It would be very helpful and probably save me three weeks talking to these people if I could use your name as an actual example. They are obviously being extremely inconsistent (as shows in this forum), but in the end accepting that they are 100% responsible for this mess. If you could share the details confidentially, then I would forward that directly to Nissan and they would have to address this. We all need to work together, as Nissan obviously has a massive mess on their hands and are trying to avoid their responsibilities.
  • 99accent99accent Posts: 237
    No Stacy I dint go through it yet, and I may not have to because it seems that the 05 and 06 has their problem, If you look through the site you will see others that are actually going through it now and have them get something going with you ,like a partition?
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    Did I ever ask you if your 2005 Pathfinder is still under warranty? What was the mileage on yours when it "died"?

    Anybody have any clue why mine waited till it hit 100,000 miles?
  • condrenvcondrenv Posts: 9
    My Pathfinder in a 2006 that was manufactured in 10/05. My problems started at about 76,000 miles. My truck was out of warranty with the exception of the catalytic converter which has a manufacture warranty until 80,000 miles. My suggestion to all is to go and get an extended warranty before it is too late.

    Nissan really needs to do a recall !!!! This is getting expensive and out of control !!!
    So, please make sure you all call Nissan to report your troubles.
  • gharpmangharpman Posts: 88
    I had 39,000 mi on mine. And, yes it was a factor in my settlement;but they should do something no matter what the mileage is. Bottom line--it's their fault for installing defective radiators.
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    Just an FYI ~

    I tried using her name, the guys name from Hackensack AND the guy from Puerto Rico! So far it has gotten me NO WHERE!!

    I'm contacting a local SoCal TV channel that I saw do a piece on Toyota's GPS system that isn't up to date in some of their cars. I THINK WE HAVE A BIGGER ISSUE HERE!

    We need to somehow pool ALL of these sites together. into_transmission.shtml
  • alisonlalisonl Posts: 30
    I am located in Pa. I had the regional specialist call me back (after I had my car inspected to verify it WAS the "PROBLEM") and he nicely imformed me, "Im sorry ma'am but your vehicle is no longer under warranty and because it has such high mileage (114,000) we cannot assist in the expense at this time" I SAID NO &*%$# BUDDDY! Really? Its not under warranty? GEEEEEZ, I really didnt know that. Thanks for taking two days to investigate this to tell me that!

    Good thing- Nissan of York, Pa (Apple) did agree to refund my money for the transmission flush they did. After speaking w/ the service manager and losing my cool on him for a few minutes, he apologized and verified that he was not to blame for the faulty vehicle. He did agree to refund the money because the flush did not fix the vibration and the vibration was happening BEFORE the flush, the primary reason I took it in in the first place. So, that should be a $$ toward the $4000 I have to pay, oh along w/ the rental car I have to pay for while its in the garage.

    So. I asked that regional manager who informed me my car was no longer under warrant DUH! ) to escalate it to his supervisor. He told me he could not give me her number but would have her call me by the end of the next business day. Guess what!!! NO CALL! Its now day 2. So, tomorrow, they will receive a pretty little phone call from me. I am ready to call the local news stations and/or even CNN, the major headlines. This is bogus and totally irreresponsible on Nissans part. ITS UNETHICAL!!!!! and in a middle of a recession. Come on!

    Im on the last leg, the Nissan is waiting w/ the tranny at their location (not York) so Ill be fixing my car next week.

    ---all along waiting for my VIN to clear the fuel pump recall.

  • gharpmangharpman Posts: 88
    If you have to replace the tranny and/or radiator (hoses,etc) see if you can find a RELIABLE tranny repair shop. Chances are their labor charge is lower than Nissan. If they install the tranny, etc. you can save a few $$$$. In my area of North Jersey, there's Pat Barrett Transmissions. Great Guys. Honest.Skilled. No B.S.

    Good Luck.
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    OH SURE! That's great for you people on the east coast :P What about those of us over on the west coast? :shades:

    Does your Pat Barrett guy know any people in LA? ;)
  • alisonlalisonl Posts: 30
    Well well.
    Upped the complaint to the regional supervisor and she was extremely rude in her way she handled it. She said because of many factors to include my dedication to using Nissan for services throughout the life of the car, and because of how far out of warranty my car was, they could not assist at all in the fix of my transmission. Then, with the fuel pump, she said they look at where the car was sold and blah blah.
    Im so irate! Its the Northeast region so good luck! They are shady, ignorant and unethical! They know damn well what is going on and Im furious!
  • stacy20stacy20 Posts: 15
    You are so right, they are awful. I talked to a woman named Nicole (regional supervisor) and she was so rude and matter-of-fact about them not helping me. We argued for quite some time and she almost had me beat. I told her I was done talking to her and wanted to speak with someone above her. She told me that would do me no good because they had made up their minds (this was the 4th person I had argued with in a matter of 3 weeks). She finally told me she'd have her boss call me within 24 hours but it wouldn't change anything. Her boss, Jennifer, called me the next day and the first thing she said is "Nissan will cover all of the costs of the radiator and transmission". What?! I was on the verge of flipping out over this whole ordeal and/or giving up then all of the sudden they agree?! They are idiots. I hate Nissan. Mine is fixed but I have ZERO trust in this vehicle and Nissan! Looking to trade it in now that it is fixed.
  • 99accent99accent Posts: 237
    I just looked up the specs and reviews in Tire = %2FT+D689&partnum=465SR7HT689RBL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ni- ssan&autoYear=2003&autoModel=Pathfinder LE 4wd&autoModClar=Standard Model

    and to my surprise those tires are rated low on tread wear and traction, they are Bridge stone 689 Duelers, does anyone have any problems with these tires?
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    edited May 2010
    So we have it planned for this weekend. We are parking our broken down Pathfinder right in front of our local dealer this weekend :P Should be good for business ;)

    My husband (who happens to be an artist) will be "decorating" our Pathfinder with the year 2005 and pictures of :lemon: all over the windows. We also have flyers made up with a picture of the 2005 Pathfinder and a note for 2005 Pathfinder owners advising them to have their transmission fluid checked IMMEDIATELY and REGARDLESS of the mileage. And of course a nice big huge "NISSAN WILL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO COVER THE REPAIR COSTS FOR THIS DEFECT EVEN IF YOU ARE STILL UNDER 60,000mi". AVERAGE COST $5,600-
    I also included this website and the two others shown in message 322.

    We called our local law enforcement who confirmed that as long there are not any NO PARKING signs posted we can leave it there for 72 hours. They cannot have it moved prior to that time.
  • stevlllstevlll Posts: 5
    This is good to see. I am in Canada and we have the same problem. Nissan hopes we do not understand the workings of these cars. They replace the radiator and flush the transmission and send you on your way. It is well known that no matter how many times you flush a transmission, there will be water and glycol left.

    I am working my way through their heirarchy now. They basically ignore me. If this was a plane engine, it would not get off the ground without a total overhaul. Is the safety of our families worth nothing?

    I bought an extended warranty in November for $2000. I told them of the 'rattlle' in the transmission at that time. I believe that Nissan knew about the problem then. I payed a couple of hundred for a 'schdeuled' transmission flush. 5 months later and my transmission is flooded with water and glycol.

    We need to organize and get the word out. I have never in my life seen such a blatant disregard for customer commitments.
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    Are you my BC person? If you are a different providence let me know and I'll mark it down. I'm keeping a log to see if we can cover the entire North America ;) I'm pretty close to it!! LOL
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    If you are a different providence ...

    It may have been providential that you two met up but I believe they call BC a province up there! ;)

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    Hey! I'm a blonde southern CA girl :blush: What do you want from me? At least I knew they didn't call them states :shades:

    Sorry Mr. Canada :D
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Hey, that's okay. Some Brits still refer to us as "the colonies!" :confuse:

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • stevlllstevlll Posts: 5
    This is an update.

    Nissan's protocal was to replace the radiator and then flush the transmission. They would not service the transmission. The next day I took the car to a well known established transmission specialist in my city one day later and he found water and glycol in our transmission. Nissan is voiding their own warranty.

    I have sent letters to Nissan and the dealer, with this evidence, and, I am waiting for a response.

    Nissan appears to be practicing 'don't look, don't tell'. The longer they are able to wait, the more money they will save. Warranties are reaching their termination every day. Every one of these cars that Nissan can get to 'limp' past the finish line will allow them to save $5000 on the transmission.

    It is amazing to see. I worked at Procter and Gamble for years. We conducted recalls when we were at fault. It was good for business, short term pain and long term gain. If anyone at Nissan is reading this, take note. Your company will suffer, especially with what is goin on with Toyota. Do the right thing and start the recall.
  • alisonlalisonl Posts: 30

    I found this article online and gave me some confidence. Just need to do some research first and make some phone calls locally.

    Im located in Central Pa, dealt w/ two Nissans, bought my pathfinder in Hawaii, at Tony Nissan. Called them yesterday, they didnt have any pathfinders over there yet they are aware of. I think maybe lack of consistent long highways to notice "vibrations" or to crank up some mileage.
  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    edited May 2010
    We actually received a phone call today from a lawyer!!!


    Let me know by replying **OR** see e-mail shown in message #281

  • audhamaudham Posts: 31
    Here is the link if you are interested. This is specific to the 2005 Nissan Pathfinder and the radiator coolant (fluid) leaking into the transmission.
    Fill out the form on the bottom portion of that page.
    Enter Current Case Name "Nissan 2005 Pathfinder"
    Allen Wong is our actual contact there.

    This will help them collect and manage all the information they receive.

    xoxo ;)
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