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After about 1000 miles, my new EXV6Nav now makes a popping sound from the front of the vehicle when stopping or starting when the body flexes. The dealer had the car a week, first replaced a strut, which did nothing at all, then had the car 4 more days while they tried everything they could think of. Said it was fixed, and I test drove the car, and it was-for about 30 miles, then it started right back up again.
Does anyone have a clue what this is, or has anyone else had this problem with a solution?
Not a happy camper. Nothing worse than having a new car with a defect the dealer can't fix.
-AL
02 Acc V6.
But I've heard a few people with the same problem saying that some additional lubrication/sealant around the edge of the moonroof solves the squeak.
I hope there is a solution for those of you who are having this, I wish you the best. Honda Motors, what is up with this!
In the meantime I am reluctantly considering a V6, which is a bigger engine than I need but which did not have much noticeable vibe.
What it was - the rubber around it got hardened over time, when I drove over bumps, it would scratch against the metal part where it is seated, those tiny movements would make a rattle sound. This morning I applied some olive oil on to the rubber seal & it seems like the problem has gone away, I'll keep listening to it, so far so good.
On the other hand, my wife's car is a 97 Maxima, we got it new & has 150k miles on it, the moonroof on the Max is as good as new. I am starting to wonder if the seal around that one is some better material than Honda's..
-AL
02 Acc V6
Honda might say, within reason, that defective transmissions are replaced regularly without having to change the entire car and so with engines.
A cost-free new engine replacement & loaner vehicle would be OK - as in a "satisfactory" or "passed" report card grade. But if Honda wanted a customer for life and the word-of-mouth promotion that goes with it, they'll replace the car.
Related to this problem, the dealer said they trimmed plastic parts rubbing against each other about 2 months ago during warranty service, but the noise returned 5 minutes driving out of the dealer.
Next chance, if I've not fixed it myself yet, I'll let the dealer know my finding so they have a head start, and I'll let everyone know the results.
I notice that the car sometimes idles to 1 rpm when in "cold" mode. Is this normal? Also, the only 3 times I've fuel the car resulted in not being able to start the car right away. I had to key it several times (each time) to start the car. This is odd for a new car.
Do all of these 3 issues have a connection? This is a brand new car and I don't know what to make of this. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
1) The moonroof rattle was caused by the velcro attachments on the roof, pull the interior roof down a little and the "re-velcro" together by pressing with hand.
2) Starting problem - my car would take 7-10 seconds to start. After 4 months of begging, I printed off and showed all the messages from Edmund's board and they finally agreed to try something and changed the fuel pump and sensors. Starting problem is gone!
3) My car is currently vibrating after it has been warmed up for 10-15 minutes. It vibrates like crazy when the car is in drive at a stop light for example. I was just told that there is a problem with the engine mounts and that Honda Engineering is working on this. If any body is experiencing this problem please let me know and especially if it's been fixed.
Thank You!
telephone #. I would like to talk to them also.
I will update as soon as I know!
CREAKING: The noise is more notiecable over bumps, and especially when I turn into my driveway or into a parking lot. If I was making a right turn into my driveway (slight incline) , the passenger side door/window would squeak, then as weight was transfered from the right side to the left the creaking would occur on the driver side.
I read a previous post on this thread about sticking a few pieces of cardboard between the weather stripping around the windhshield , but unfortunately that didnt work. Im not sure if its due to such cold weather and the causing the rubber to come into contact with the windshield.
Im hoping, that once I bring the car back for service (third time) ( When I brought the car to the service shop a week ago, they said they could not locate the creaking noise, as for the moonroof, they couldnt find the noise either, but after doing some work on the moonroof I was able to solve that problem WHEEW!!)
The next time I bring the car in,Im going to tell them to replace the mohawk/a-pillar clips, but Im a bit hesitant , because I had my windshield replaced two weeks ago, and I hope they dont say that the guy who put the windshield in messed it up and that it isnt in their lap anymore.
Other then that the car is great, but Im quite frustrated . Any ideas ?
I got my car back last night after getting it towed to the dealership. As I said, my engine died on the highway. It was found that my car actually ran out of gas! Before you laugh it was not my fault. The vehicle gauges had said I had 1/2 tank of fuel therefore, screwing up the sensors and gauges. It was found that the "fuel sending unit" was faulty and not reading correctly. They removed the unit and re-installed the same unit back in and it appears to be functioning. My vibration issues is still present however and I still get the rotten egg smell. By the way, my vehicle is a 4 cylinder.
What sign/indications have you encountered in regards to the weather-stripping wearing out. If so, does it squeak/creak ?
RE:INSPECTOR 3
All cars, especially 4 cylinder engines, will tend to vibrate when the compressor is first activated. I have also read, from many sources, that larger 4 cylinder engines are inherently more prone to vibration.
RE:GREG
I have also noticed, that after running 92 oct in my 03 sedan V6, it runs noticeably smoother when compared to 87. Maybe its just my imagination. But I tend to believe that the accord should be run with 93. The accord tends to significantly halt/retard the spark relay when 87 is ran.
Also, has anyone noticed that the "supposedly" new transmission on the accords, isn't as smooth when driving at lower speeds. For instance when less aggressive throttle ( driving less aggressively) is applied the upshifts/downshifts aren't as smooth when compared to a more aggressive throttle (driving more aggressively). Seems the more aggressive I drive the car, the smoother the shifts become.
In transition, the only thing as of now, that concerns me are the new transmissions on the 03accords. The rattles/creaks, things like that, are expected. The accord is still going through some growing pains.
As for the tranny, I am keeping my fingers crossed that Honda actually re-designed them , and didn't attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of 03 honda owners. After reading official Honda documentation they stated the new AV6 tranny is "closely related to" to that of the 3.2TL's tranny, which leads me to believe that the trannys is pretty much the same.
Furthermore, the two main differences between the 02 transmissions and the 03 (besides just gear ratios) is the addition of Electronic Throttle Control, which has nothing to do with the tranny hardware itself and would only need revisions to the PCM (powertrain control module). I personally don't think this is adequate proof.
One great thing about the new tranny is in combination with the electronic throttle control which is very smart move by Honda because now the clutch packs don't have to fight against an engine that's roaring along at full blast. That was one of the main problems with the 00-02 tranny's , the clutch packs. These good old clutch pads would wear prematurely, therefore sometimes little chunks would break off and lodge in inconvenient spots in the valve body. This can cause the transmission to malfunction in which can lead to some bad situations, such as suddenly shifting into 2nd gear at 80MPH. Another side affect is that it will cause harsh shifting, sometimes even in light driving situations.
You guys are probably asking why I am babbling on, just wanted to get some more input. Take all this for what it is, my 2cents.
1. fingerprints inside the radio led screen. (Swapped out the radio)
2. Drivers side seat has too much play and moves forward everytime I step on the brakes hard.
3. Center console rattles and won't open anymore(told that the center console has to be replaced but there is a month and half backorder from Honda because so many cars are having the same problem.
4.rear drivers sideh handle, the one you hold onto on the roof of the car, does not return to original position.
5. When starting the engine, the car doesn't seem to always start well, there is a slight hesitation before starting.
Alex
The dealer replaced the release mechanism. This did not correct the problem. The dealer is ordering another release mechanism. I am concerned that the problem may lie elsewhere as I am not a big believer in coincidences--two bad mechanisms in a row when no one else seems to be having this problem.
Anyone out there have this problem and get it fixed? I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions.
P.S. Thanks to everyone on this board and the Honda Board for helping me decide on the Accord. I had been considering the Audi A-4 CVT, but after comparing the problems of each and the dealer response to problems, I settled on the Accord. So far I have not experienced any of the problems mentioned on this board. Things I like about the Accord--too many to list.
My driver side door has a very light hum to it. The passenger side door has a louder rattle or hum, which seems to come from the door speaker. When I close the driver door, I can hear the rattle in the passenger door. Anybody have any similar issues?
Like a dummy, I used regular gas for three fill-ups due to the price of gas in Seattle. So, my last fill-up was with premium 92. I'm hoping that this will fix the sluggish feeling, although since I have used half the tank, I had assumed it would be better by now. I have to really press the gas peddle to get the car moving. And the engine sound has doubled in volume.
FINALLY, I'm not sure what Honda was thinking when they decided not to put rubber moulding around the back window. Has anybody noticed that exterior noise is extremely loud, especially in the rain. Even when I have on my rock CDs at the volume of 18 or 19 (which might be why I'm losing my hearing...haha) I can still hear the exterior sound. Is it me, or are any of you having this problem?
Like I said, I am very unhappy with this car, and seriously considering getting rid of it. I don't believe that my issues will be fixed because the dealer loves to say "we don't hear anything." Aside from these issues, I would be much more thrilled about owning this car.
Any help would be great. Sorry for such a long post.
Dont let the little things get you down. Bring it to the dealer.
You want to hear interior noise, drive an altima or maxima, then tell what you think about your accord coupe. As for the moulding on the back windshield, there is no reason for it , the comon misconception is that, without, road noise is incerased, which is false. If you really wanted less road noise, you should have gone with the camry, but try to understand that you are driving a performance/sport oriented vehicle.
Ideas/Suggestions?
1. Rattles, particularly around the sunroof.
2. Occassional hard starting in the V6.
3. Driver's side seatbelt has poor retraction design(easily gets bunched up and ends up with slack on the floor)
4. Questionable accuracy of fuel gauge.
I had every one of them in my 2k V6(except sunroof)
It would seem to me Honda should have gotten these things right by now. But they may not really think it's worth bothering with.
The relatively few who would have the tenacity to have such a minor or occassional problem accurately diagnosed and properly fixed can easily be handled at the dealer end. No sense in redesigning or modifying at the factory-too expensive.
Take the hard starting of the V6. It was known about in 98, but even with my 2k, the dealer had to special order parts to modify the fuel system and the computer had to be replaced. Why hadn't this known fix been done at the factory by 2000? Too expensive. I'm sure there's plenty of V6 owners who just live with it since it's only occassional or the dealer "couldn't find a problem" or the warranty ran out.
I'm betting the issues with the 03 will be just as frequent two, three, four years down the road. Honda would rather we spend our time(at the dealer) than they spend their money.
Now, I'm happy to say that I have gotten all these bugs worked out under warranty. But it did take quite a few dealer visits resulting in, all total, at least a week (hour here, three hours there)without my car. And, did I forget to mention I do have Honda's generous tranny warranty extension, another issue which they also didn't bother to fix at the factory level.
Neither did my 99 EX 5-speed sedan or my 2001 Accord EX V6 coupe. Seatbelt always retracted, no problems with transmissions (didn't like the way the computer adjusted to our different driving styles though) or gas gauges, and although there was a slight squeak from the roof if the sunshade was open it was not constant and far from what I would consider a problem.
In fact, now that I think about it more, I can't think of a Honda we have ever owned (this includes 15 or more) has ever had a problem with the seatbelt retracting, rattles, hard starting, transmission, or erratic fuel gauges.
I don't feel this board represents the average Accord owner. Most people are on here to post some kind of question or some kind of complaint. Others are here to defend their brand's honor. And others are here to troll around. In the end, what are you going to buy that will be better? Show me any midsize car offered for $25000 or less that has NO complaints about some kind of weird noise, rattle, electrical problem, etc.
The Accord and Camry together have sold 4,000,000 combined and manage to have the most consistent reliability rating of almost any other car yet there will always be someone who insists that their quality is deteriorating and they are one step away from the junkyard. So maybe you know where the perfect car is but in my opinion that car doesn't exist. Might as well stick to "almost" perfect.
One thing I did try, which was interesting, was to pull the air cleaner, and the box was maybe about 1/3rd full of bird seed. The filter was a little clogged, too. I guess the mouse or whatever it was must have hidden away the bird seed in the air cleaner box, maybe walking in the front. Not sure how/why it kept doing that - there was a lot of seed. So I vacuumed it out. Still, I'm not sure how that would cause what appeared to me to be non-starting and maybe electrical problems. I visually checked all of the fuses, and those looked good. I suppose the clogged air filter could have stopped the car. Whole thing's a little weird. Car does fire up fine now, but I think I'll have to drive it a bit before knowing that was it. Hopefully I won't stall out again somewhere inconvenient.