2009 Nissan Maxima

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go to the following site to review the full blown inside and outside pictures of the 2009 maxima. enjoy!!
http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=181090
One negative for me is they've borrowed Infiniti's navigation dash design, which looks very strange to me.
But that exterior. Wow. I can't wait to see it in person. I too really like the Altima but still hate the tail lamps. Thank God Nissan played it cool on these rear lamps.
This new Maxima looks awesome! There is mention on the Nissan site of a dual panel roof and other things not seen in the pics so there is more to come. Maybe AWD??
The only disappointment I have so far is the lack of AWD. I have stated to my friends and family that I will never buy again a car without AWD. I love the look and features in the new Maxima but 290HP though the front wheels could be a major issue for torque steer. Hopefully Nissan have done their homework here if they want this thing to be a sports sedan.
Things I want in my next car:
Memory seats (it gets shared with my wife) - check
Heated seats - check
(nice to have) Cooled seats - check
Auto dimming rearview mirrors (all of them - not just the center) - don't know on this
Remote start - don't know on this
AWD - doesn't look like it at the moment
Bluetooth - check
iPod control - check
Spacious - check
Good looking - check
Quality interior - check (I think - as it looks a lot better than Nissans in the past)
I really hope the interior holds up as I have been disappointed with Nissan interiors when I have looked at them previously. Bad enough that I discounted their cars. This one looks like an Infinity so hopefully the quality is there as well.
Remote Start.. inexpensive to add but I have heard it is problematic with the push button start and remote entry features so an oem solution would be nice.
Nissan has this habit of adding at least one extra bit of exterior weirdness to every car they make. Apparently others find these features attractive, but they bug me as I like very clean, jewelry-free exteriors. Examples are:
-- Strange door handles on 350z (why not flush with doors, very ugly!)
-- Weird big black plastic thingy on tailgates of Titan and Frontier (no other truckmaker does this and that's a good thing)
-- Already mentioned the taillamps on the Altima (better than last model's but still bizarre to me)
-- Roof tumor on Armada and QX
-- Chrome strip on trunk lid of G35
-- All kinds of clutter on Xterra (although at least some is functional)
So I like Nissan products but I just with they were a little cleaner.
From what I read this car should be available in June, so I would hope this information is forthcoming soon.
I'm looking forward to the diesel Maxima which is expected as a 2010 model.
Like I said I'm also a big fan of the Altima. It pretty much won me over the moment I saw it at the 2007 LA Auto Show. The only thing that surprises me is that Nissan is not more competitive with MSRP. They are priced just like Accords and Camrys, but Nissan ought to be undercutting, like Hyundai, to get more foothold. Again that may be happening at the dealer level, but it is quite off-putting to me when I configure the Altima I like (3.5 SE w/leather) and it's $30k! That sure makes a $25k Sonata Limited look pretty appealing. For $30k I'm creeping pretty close to G35/TL territory.
I'm predicting the prices wont be much higher then the current car, if you look at the other japaness car companys, the only real competition for the new MAX is the Acrua TL, (which BTW get a new design for 09.) if you look at the current MAX, load it up with options its less then the TL. So my bet is, Nissan will do the same with the new 09 MAX...
BM
I actually go back and forth on the new Accord. From some angles I really like it, and from others it just leaves me cold. One thing I don't vary on is disliking the size. Way too big now. The good news for me is that I've disliked every Accord update, but after a year or two it grows on me and by the time it's replaced I think they should just leave it alone.
I was thinking recently about why the Accord grew so much, and I think one of the reasons is that Honda does not have an Avalon equivalent. So basically the Accord sits in the middle, and could be cross-shopped by buyers in both the Camry class and the Avalon class. That's my guess: Honda was trying to hedge their bets.
Regarding AWD in the Maxima, I too think it a remote possibility. Nissan already has an AWD sport-sedan; it's called the G35x.
Dude, BM, you've owned some choice autos. It's interesting to me that you're willing to drive Japanese after several German models. It seems like German car lovers are usually extremely dedicated, and look down very harshly on the Japanese cars.
Regarding the Versa, that's actually a "world" car that had already been in production for some time overseas. So they had some time to work out any bugs by the time you picked one up.
Regarding insurance, I wouldn't know that either, but your insurance company can cut out the guesswork for you. Just call them and have them price the premium on a 2008 Accord EX-L V6, a Camry XLS V6, and a 2008 Maxima SL. Again that should give you some ballpark to work with.
Regarding insurance, we went from a 99 MAX to a 05 Altima sedan SE 3.5 and the insurance didnt go up much. You have to remember that when yuo buy a new car iinsurnace well alway go up, usally not by much.
Everything seems to be looking great for the Maxima, right now. That is, until you look at its competitors. Hyundai should really have Nissan nervous. While the Max seems to have taken most of its performance toys from the G, the Genesis is an Infinity M fighter (well not really, but that's what they aimed for). Performance won't be quite as good as the Maxima, until you opt up for the V8. That should be a major pain in Nissan's side.
While the Maxima is a poor man's infiniti, the Pontiac G8 is a poor man's BMW. For a better price, you can get a G8 with the V8 that would leave the Max in the dust. Plus it's bigger. The interior wouldn't look as nice, but fit and finish would be just as good. I'd bet the new Mazda 6 can outrun the Maxima, as 0-60 in 6.5 isn't impressive for a car that size with that much power.
I'm not saying any of the others are better, I just hope Nissan wasn't planning on the Maxima having it easy. This should make an interesting comparison test.
But- does a car like this even make sense any more with $4/gal gas? It was envisioned and designed probably 3-4 years ago and no longer has a place today.
OK, granted, spending $2400 a year on petrol won't break the bank of the average buyer of a $35K sedan- but from a principle standpoint, isn't it time that our family sedans are getting 25mpg rather than 19mpg (or 17mpg as the testers realized). Remember, this is a Nissan, not an Infinity.
Wouldn't a 200hp engine that pulls a car weighing 400lbs less to 60 in 7.9s and gets 25mpg/32mpg hwy be the solution of the future? Well, OK- maybe in Altima trim? So, I guess my issue is with the Altima- which got too big and nice, and forced the Maxima to be 'over the top'. Hmm. guess that's why they call it a "Maxima".
The previous gen Maxima had grown up to almost 194 inches in length. To me, that is just way too long for a sedan. The Genesis, while it looks to be very promising is way too long for me
at 195 inches!!
at 195 inches!!
You don't understand the term 'full size sedan" then, do you? The benefits of cars that large are more interior space with back seats someone 6+ft can actually sit in. Can they still handle? See G8/ Mazda 6.
And Nissan didn't mess up in Maxima's old size, but that they let the Altima again better it, in looks and perforemance.
I've read in some other forums where a few 2009 Maxima's have been spotted but my local dealers are saying July/August is most likely for Maximas to go on sale. Any one know the official release / sale date?
While I personally think the 2009 Maxima looks great and is a good step in the right direction, the lack of activity/interest in this forum makes me think others do not share this opinion. If so, the could be the last of the Maxima's!! Long live Altima.
MPG was rated 19 highway and 26 city for a combined 22 mpg which is the exact same combined MPG as the 2008 V6 accord - but the Maxima has higher horsepower and no VCM mechanical problems to worry about. Nice job Maxima!
Next step, the test drive!!
This is no hybrid vehicle:-)
It listed for over 36k with the technology package,but the real suirprise is that they put a 1k market adjustment on the sticker price.
Now I can understand trying to sell at MSRP since its new but to add a market adjustment for a car getting only combined 20 or so mpg using premium fuel seems a little much at this particular point in time.
The car did look impressive though.
As far as value compared to a G8...just check trade-in 3 years from now, pontiac re-sale value is awful.