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I have a 2000 XG 300 and had a similar problem. I checked the sensors with OBDII and everything is fine. I had to replace the bearing on the alternator so the mechanic had to take the engine cover up after that I had the problem of surging and engine running 3000 rpm. For 3 days trying to figure out what was the cause but no luck. Finally I found the cause was the connection between the throttle wire and the wire that goes to the throttle body and the computer. This connector was loose so it was causing this problem. When you look at it you will not tell it is loose unless you unplug it. This connector is on the right side of the engine in the back. I hope this will help in solving your problem and take care.
PhDrashed
My only experience with breaking timing belts was on my '90 Toyota pick-up. It was recommended to replace the belt at 60K miles and I needed to wait a month before I could afford the work. The belt went out at 60,055 miles! I couldn't believe it. It cost about three times as much to have it fixed under those circumstances.
If I still have my '05 XG350L when it has 60K miles I'll be having the belt replaced.
about 30 years ago, I had a Fiat 128SL. I had the timing belt replaced as part of the factory recommended service. The new belt broke, actually wore out, within 10k miles and left me stranded about 600 miles from home on a Sunday morning. The gas station I was towed to could not find a belt and I was going to have to wait until Monday for local Fiat dealer to open. Luckily, I kept the old belt in the trunk and they were able to use that to get me going. I drove home 600 miles on 3 cylinders! I still remember how amazing it was that I didn't miss the 4th cylinder except on hills! When I got home, the dealer would not fix it under their warranty because it was over their 3000 mile warranty!
I just can't believe timing belts won't last for more than 100k miles on modern cars. I never had to replace timing belt or chains on any of my other cars which were driven for well over 100k miles.
I asked that the timing belt be replace. "OK." Also, loud thump from rear end on bumps. "We'll fix it," and they did. Turned out to be a worn out bushing in the sway bar.
I did read some of the posts on this board, but, 'man it sure rides nice. Had it about three months (Love that CD changer) and the front left brake pad separated from its base and ground up the rotor. They fixed it, but I had to pay as the dealers warranty only went for 2 months on a car with over 60k on it. 62k to be exact. OK, gads, it sure rides nice.
We have a 99 buick century, but it don't ride like the GX. Did some experimenting with the auto seat stuff. If you hit the parking brake and then pull the key, the seat moves to the rear most position (also have to have the 'auto' button pushed. When you get back in and put in the key, the seat returns to the last memory position. A recent post here complained that the fellows wife sat a lot closer to the wheel than he does and when he gets in, he gets the ol' squeeze play. I thought that maybe if you turn off the 'Auto' button after the seat goes to the rear most position, maybe it would stay there when you got in and put in the key. Guess what? It don't.
Instead, when you get in, the seat has already gone to the memory position. Apparently when you unlock the door with the key bob, the seat moves forward before you even open the door. So much for that great idea.
Rog Dog
The XG 300 and XG 350 are both excellent cars to buy used. They have had few, if any recalls, they are roomy and smooth, they were well equipped and expensive new but depreciated quickly, and they never were very popular. All that makes for a good used car, and a great value for the price too.
I like mine too, and by buying it new I've got that 100,000 powertrain warranty. I'm not sure if we'll keep it long enough to cash in on it though.
Yes, I agree. Wish I could have gotten that warranty also, but they said "No," to that. I did get the dealer's 24 month 12000 mi power train coverage though it cost me a couple k. I've been trying to get various people to take my car for a spin, hoping they would get so hooked that they'd buy it from me for more than I paid. (Yea, I know, LOTSA LUCK FELLA!) Then I could by a GX350.
Thanks,
Craig
Short note to Forum Controller: Sorry about the "Dyslexia"! Those headings should have read "XG300L". The car knows what it is even if I do not.
Rog Dog
"Forum Controller" over and out. :shades:
I'm a believer in Hyundai, but I don't like it very much when they say they "can't duplicate the problem."
I tend to 'baby' any car I own on the required maintenance (and tend to keep a car I like for a long time), so I didn't own the '99' Sonata long enough to know what I kind of record it would have.
Nonetheless, I've now owned the '01' XG for long enough to know that Hyundai's promise of quality and extended warranties are all bogus. I have had most of the problems described on this forum, some of which were easy fixes, others not.
At the end of the day (because I don't have long commutes), my car has 56k on it, has stranded me twice, alternator replaced, belts replaced (which the dealer said were not covered under the engine and bumper-to-bumper warranties -- and I have the Hyundai Protection Plan also), and I still get random problems. The car runs, but service engine light turns on/stays on most of the time (but the dealership can't replicate it), air bag light is on constantly. In any case, the dealership I bought the car from with always tries to rip you off on maintenance and repairs whenever you go in there.
Before I ever had a Hyundai, I had an '81' VW Rabbit Diesel which was fantastic enginewise and probably drove until all the parts had fallen off the frame, and then an '87' Nissan Stanza, which was dying at 130k when I bought the '99' Sonata.
I loved this car when I bought it, but I don't delay maintenance, baby the car most of the time, and I have a piece of Cr** at 56k!
Sorry to let the air out of some people's sails, but that's the way it is!
Here's what I recently discovered: We have two different seat/mirror settings programed as #1 and #2. We leave the auto button on with green light glowing. We nearly always apply the parking brake, sometimes after turning the key off, other times before. The seat either moves back a little or stays in my far back position #1 when I exit the car. When I want to re-enter, unlocking the car with the remote, sometimes the seat moves to my short-legged wife's setting, #2, but other times goes to my #1 position. If it scoots forward to her position, I just re-lock the car with the remote and then unlock it again, at which time the seat goes to my #1 postion. It can happen either way regardless of who last drove the car or which remote is used to unlock the door.
I don't understand why it behaves this way, but I'm happy enough.
MPG on the freeway cruising at varying speeds between 70-85 using whole tanks of gas gives 23 to 27 MPG for me, fully loaded, A/C on. Normal around town mileage, which does not include much stop and go traffic, usually averages 17 to 20 MPG.
2005 XG350 L, purchased new, now with 29,000 miles.
I wish other XG owners success in this adventure. Other than the hesitation, we love the car, 20/21 MPG around town, 26/27 on the road with A/C.
I checked this out on my XG300 and the airflow out the rear duct is a lot lower than air flow out the front. This is not to say there is nothing wrong with your vehicle, but one thing to try is to close all of the front vents and see what that does for rear airflow. I tried it and got a bunch 'o air out the rear. Not the normal way you would use it, but at least you would know it is working. Also be sure the vent is open at the rear duct. :surprise:
I had my center console torn apart last week-end try to find some things I'd dropped down thru the gap in the cup holder door. (Yes I'm very dumb) Anywho, I was able to get a good look at the duct work that directs air to the rear vent. It is only about an inch in diameter from the front of the console to within a foot of the rear vent where it expands to about the size of the vent opening. You're not going to get gobs of air thru that small duct, but I've found that it is sufficient to cool the back seat area fairly quickly.
Hope this is helpful,
Rog Dog
Is this easily repaired by myself? I can't afford a visit to Mr. Hyundai right now.
The leather is firm. I expected it to soften over time, but it has mostly stayed firm. My wife has a touchy back, and the comfort of the seats was a prime selection criteria for us. I do not know if leather was standard in the non "L" version of the XG350. The XG350L was the luxury version of the XG350.
Good Luck !
I have a 2000 XG and had the same problem with the speedometer after I had replaced the valve body on the transmission. Some how the speedometer wire to the transmission was loose and that caused the problem. Make sure the wire is connected properly and good luck and take care.
PhDRashed
I've now put 1500 miles on the car, and am very impressed. A little wind noise, a little rear-end thump over harsh roads (which I attribute to a somewhat soft suspension), but overall a very nice car. Perhaps the original owner got all the bugs out. My first tank was less than 18mpg, but the "fuzzy logic" adjusted to me after about 300 miles, and I'm now averaging about 23mpg.
I've owned five Toyotas (all purchased new), a used Maxima and a used Subaru since 1974. The best of the bunch was my '87 MR2, which I ran 150K before it was stolen and stripped.
I've now read about 1300 of the posts on this board. It appears that some have had some serious problems with their cars, but I learned a long time ago that the unhappy people want the world to know that they're unhappy, while the happy people don't say a word.
No car company or car is perfect. My ex bought a '99 Outback. It seems that Outback clutches need to be replaced every 35K (at a cost of $600-$800). Subaru picked up half the tab on the first one (37K), but said tough luck after that. I've spoken with about six other people with the same problem (and reported it to NHTSA with no response), so it's not only Hyundai.
So far I'm very satisfied with the XG. Fit and finish are excellent, the engine is more than satisfactory, and I feel I got a great deal.
1. The Samsung TV with the same features which cost $1000 less will probably not perform as well as the Sony.
2. The GE wall oven with the same features will probably not be as reliable as the Thermador which cost $1500 more.
3. If a company makes 100,000 of a product, and 5,000 have a problem, the only people who will post to a forum such as this one will be the ones with the problems. I learned a long time ago that happy people keep quiet, while those with a complaint want the world to know about it. I would love those who haven't had a problem to post here.
4. Consumer Reports repair records are useless (see number 3 above). As a long-time subscriber I know that satisfied people never want to take the time to fill out the annual questionnaire.
I'm not saying that those of you who have had problems (many of them serious) should be dismissed. I just wonder how many people haven't had problems, and how they feel about their cars.
I've now driven my used XG300 for 1500 miles, and so far it's performed exceptionally well. Perhaps (with winter coming) I won't be able to say that 3 months from now, but for the moment I'm satisfied.
I would like to know if anybody had any lock in identifying
the source of the noise, I have 92500kms on the car.
Thanks
Gilles
By that I mean that if I've stopped at a stop sign or a light and then go to accelerate, it kind of jerks a bit. After going to the dealership and having them drive the car and what not... they tell me this is all normal for an 'electronic' car and that I just have to get use to it and the way I drive it. :confuse:
If anyone has ANY idea what I'm talking about or any comments or suggestions, PLEASE feel free to email me about it at hypnos35@hotmail.com PLEASE!
I feel like a loser because it IS my first car and to be quite honest... I know a total of... NOTHING about cars in general. So any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks,
Rog Dog
EDMUNDS HYUNDAI FORUM NOTES
A/C-HEATER CONTROLS 1064-68, 1114, 1127, 1151, 1155, 1157, 1160, 1164,
1166, 1183, 1236, 1241, 1252-54, 1256-57, 1282, 1285, 1321-22, 1543-45, 1751
AIR BAG DEPLOYMENT PROBLEMS 768, 770-774, 778-781, 783, 785-6, 788, 790,
798, 802-810, 811-12, 832, 834, 844, 854, 879, 902-7, 910, 912-20, 921,
945, 1080, 1082, 1089, 1110, 1115-20, 1123-24, 1174, 1176
AIR FILTERS 1810
ALIGNMENT ISSUES 1073, 1203, 1205, 1208-10, 1255, 1509, 1537, 1741, 1743-45,
1757
AUTO SEAT RETRACTION 198; 472-476, 817, 819-20, 1035, 1530, 1764
AUTO SIDE MIRRORS 1133, 1142, 1528-30
BRAKE PROBLEMS 587, 844, 879, 884, 1054, 1166, 1171-74, 1223, 1400-01,
1495-1500, 1517, 1537, 1539, 1541, 1553, 1588-92, 1655, 1742, 1774-76, 1786,
1789
CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ..., 1442-43, 1517, 1539, 1546, 1787, 1821-22, 1834,
1841-44,
CRUISE CONTROL PROBLEMS 400, 1151, 1155, 1157, 1303-05, ?1527?
ECM (ENGINE CONTROL MODULE) ...1683
ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS 1149-50, 1151, 1176, 1229, 1235-36, 1239, 1252,
1509, 1527, 1646, 1774-76, 1787, 1807, 1945
EMISSION SYSTEM ISSUES 1509, 1650-51
ENGINE PROBLEMS 1712-17, 1727
EXTERIOR PAINT PROBLEMS 715, 718, 720, 1195-96, 1199, 1429-30, 1535,
1677,
FLOOR MAT CLIPS 662, 673, 708, 720, 1031
FOG LIGHT PROBLEMS 1786
GASOLINE TYPE 1140-41, 1144, 1154, 1156, 1163, 1456-57
HEADLIGHTS 1391, 1393-94, 1764, 1774
HEAD RESTS 1167
HESITATION WHEN COLD 691, 707, 1815-19, 1828, 1831, 1833, 1840, 1870-71,
1874-75, 1883?, 1898, 1901-05, 1908-17
HORSEPOWER FIASCO 1228, 1230, 1242-50, 1580-87
IGNITION PROBLEMS 944, 1045, 1176, 1179, 1232
LEAKING AROUND WINDOWS AND ELSEWHERE 1507, 1510, 1854, 1857,
1886-88,
LURCHING WHILE BRAKES APPLIED 1809, 1820, 1825-26, 1840, 1852-53, 1858-60,
1864, 1869-70, 1899-1900, 1919-21, 1925, 1935-39
MILEAGE QUESTIONS 1145-47, 1155, 1157, 1739-40, 1748-50, 1752-54, 1845-46,
MOONROOF BUTTONS 720
MUD FLAPS 561; 563, 664
NOISE PROBLEMS 1080, 1221-22, 1233, 1259, 1306, , 1312-13, 1318, 1334-35,
1349, 1383, 1539, 1541, 1545
HYUNDAI PICTURES 1686
RADIO PROBLEMS 587, 673, 683-685, 1088, 1227, 1764, 1945
RECALLS 1081-82, 1084-86, 1089
REMOTE FOB (RANGE) 1180, 1238, 1398, 1431-32, 1534
RUST???? 1522-24
SPARK PLUGS 1896-97
STALLING or STUMBLING 1727-30, 1847
SWAY BAR & BUSINGS 1101, 1184-86, 1509
SYSTEM CHECK (NO ERRORS) 1160???
THROTTLE INFO 790, 1176, 1359-60, 1374-75, 1527, 1591-92, 1647-49, 1653,
1655, 1662-63, 1669, 1676, 1678, 1700-05, 1718-19, 1732-36, 1766-73, 1778,
1780-83, 1793-94, 1837, 1848-49, 1873, 1899-1900
TIRE ISSUES ..., 1547, 1691-92, 1700, 1737-38, 1761-63, 1799, 1808, 1812-14,
1836
TIRERACK WEBSITE???
TIMING BELT ...1681, 1940-44
TRACTION CONTROL 817-19, 822, 831-32, 835-838, 1335, 1363, 1366-69,
TRANSMISSION ISSUES 633-636; 638; 645, 673-679, 686, 688-689, 701, 707,
710, 1032, 1036-39, 1041-44, 1046, 1047-48, 1050, 1055, 1062-63, 1071-71,
1074-76, 1078, 1084-1086, 1089, 1121-22, 1127, 1139, 1166, 1169, 1171, 1172-73,
1176, 1178, 1189, 1221, 1239-1240, 1280-81, 1283-84, 1288, 1298, 1306-07, 1332,
1337, 1365, 1447, 1462, 1475, 1509, 1519-20, 1527, 1545, 1555, 1653, 1655, 1700-05,
1746-47, 1751, 1755-56, 1758-60, 1766-73, 1778, 1780-83, 1793-94, 1805, 1807,
1837, 1850, 1918-19
TRIP COMPUTER 1087, 1113, 1143, 1169
TRUNK HINGES 410-420
USED 1168
VALVES, SELF ADJUSTING(?) 1134-35, 1221-22
VIBRATION 1171, 1174-76, 1319, 1323, 1343-46 (fixed), 1537, 1788, 1806
WARRANTY TRANSFER!!!??? 1633, 1658-60
WIND NOISE 573; 574, 708, ?768, ?879, 1110, 1174, 1187-89, 1306
WIND SHIELD WIPER SPEED 487; 618-619
WINDOW CONTROL PANEL 673, 720, 1263, 1266, 1509
My only complaint ever with the car, was the worthless Michelin tires that came with it. Had to replace those squeeling bad boys at just over 20K. Went to Kumho Ecsta ASX and never looked back. In winter I had studded Hankooks. Better than 4 wheel drive.
Really enjoyed my XG, but wow driving the new Azera makes up for it.
4. Interest rate. At the time it was .9% with no one else offering this kind of rate at the time. Now five and a half years later one thing is for sure, I will never buy another green car. I would say another Hyundai but there is no way they could stay in business if all their cars were as bad as mine. To start off since the day we got it the radio will come on by itself but of course it works fine for the dealer. The trunk has opened by itself along with the doors locking by themselves and the passenger mirror moving on its own but always works fine for the dealer. The surging problem I had too and wound up being a short in the wiring. The transmission had to be replaced but it took 4 times to the dealer before that happened. First time the fluid was burnt and they said that was why the trans shuddered so I changed filter and fluid. Second time fluid burnt and they said that was because I did nit flush it so I paid them to flush it. Keep in mind I know that extreme heat is the only thing that will burn the fluid but what can you say. Third time trans is shuddering on 3-4 shift but fluid not burnt yet so dealer informs me of tsb and flashes ecm. Forth time trans now shudders from 4-5 and dealers says nothing wrong so I inform them of tsb that says to replace trans which they finally do. Are you starting to get the picture. It took three times taking it in to get the compressor replaced because the car would slow down 5mph when the ac kicked on. Today I picked it up from the dealer after 19 days there getting stuff fixed and now the radio acted up for them but it only has a two year warranty. I had the timing belt replaced because of a growling noise and I am glad I did. The tech pulled the top cover off and it was very loose. When paying they had us sign a document that we were the original owners which we thought we were at least that is what our finance contract with the dealer said but we found out that there was a previous owner and that means no 100k eng/pt warranty. Any lawyers out there? So you get alot for your money on this car used considering its resale value sucks but I still would not own another one.