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BTW, is your vacation over? Welcome back, we missed you. Genie1's been a lot less interested in the board since you left ;O)
To start, we have to understand the underlying intent of a speed limit: to foster safety.
The problem is that vehicular speed is always situational and speeding can be no more immoral than the creation of inappropriate speed limits, or obeying the letter of the law by doing exactly the speed limit despite under adverse driving conditions.
We also know how speed enforcement has generally transformed itself away from actual promotion of highway safety into a revenue tool which is a perversion of spirit and intent.
I have no moral problem in letting a police officer present his evidence and if it is wrong, prove how his evidence was wrong. Even if I was technically speeding, that which he considers to be the evidence must be correct: it is the object lesson to prevent the potential for the improper conviction of a completely innocent man.
And that's what applies here: if the GA officer testifies that the defendant was going exactly 70.0 mph, the burden is on him to prove that. If he can't do that, the defendant should walk, regardless of his actual innocence/guilt. If, on the other hand, the officer recognizes the limititations of his technology and presents his case while taking that into account and states that the defendant must have been going somewhere between 67mph-85mph (and this is correct), then the defendant should pay.
It is in the public interest to make sure that our public servants strive to prevent abuses and actually strive to discover the TRUTH in court, instead of manipulating alleged facts to merely try to WIN their case: law officials who do unprofessional and shoddy work should be punished so that next time, he gets it right, and officials who knowingly abuse the system where it has known weaknesses and use it to punish the innocent and minor offenders simply to create revenue deserve nothing less than loss of employment followed by imprisonment.
-hh
What do you mean when you say 7/10ths 10/10ths?
BMW driving school has slots available now for April in SC. Has anybody tried it and how was it? I want to learn how to push my car to its limits safely.
Another thing. I drove on 3 to 4 inches of fine dust on a "shortcut" in the Croatan forest. I was following an Explorer and the DSC was working overtime as I was sliding on that layer of sand/dust on that road. I never lost control even at 65 to 70. Sure the tail would slide but DSC kicks in and keeps me straight. Now my engine compartment is covered in fine dust. Is it safe to wash the engine compartment?
Thanks a lot gents.
Welcome back Dave.
I asked a friend if I could drive his Accord so I could really appreciate my own ride. (He said no)
So I'm going to test the IS300 instead.
Genie1: Good to be back. I remember the IS300 being a good handler, but somewhat twitchy.
-Chris
325i sedan, steel blue, SP, cold weather package, moon roof, bi xenons, computer & HK upgrade (floor mats included). I live in Madison, WI BTW.
MSRP = $33,045
Invoice = $29,960
My offer = $31,000 (purposely low ball)
Their counter = $32,045
I left saying I needed to clear it with my wife and I might consider $32,045 if they included the arm rest ($350 installed, they claim) and let me take out the M3 for a little drive.
$1000 off MSRP sounds ok, especially if they include the arm rest. On the other hand, it sounds like others have gotten $1500 off MSRP.
Are there any useful dealer installed options I should/could get included (alarm, sun shade, etc.)? Maybe a key ring or coffee mug? It doesn't hurt to ask, I guess.
-Murray
p.s. I got an email from our Travelocity fair watcher Round trip from Madison, WI to Munich $215!! If I didn't have a 16 month old daughter, I'd be on my way to the Autoban!
BTW, I like the color choice! Are you going with the black 'ette?
E36 -- 318ti, 323is, 328is & all convertibles
E46 -- 323i & 328i
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Shipo
The reason is because the dealership that is close to my home could not beat the price that another dealership (further away) was offering.
What MAY happen, as in my case, is that I won't get the "special" service they typically reserve for customers of that dealership. These "special" services, as I have been told, include priority listing when your car is in service (if you bought there, your car is bumped AHEAD of others WHO DIDN'T BUY THEIR CAR THERE and are waiting for service...so much for making appointments), free car washes, loaner cars (none of which, I may add, are BMWs) and shuttle service (if you don't want a loaner car).
So, buy your car at the best possible price...that's the smart thing to do. And, don't worry about bringing your car in for service. If they treat you unreasonably, you can always "ding" them on the survey -- BMW service centers pride themselves on the EXCELLENT ratings they receive from their customers. I have already "dinged" my local BMW service center by doing this.
Good luck!
-Chris
I think I'll take the $1000 under invoice if they throw in a couple coffee cups. At best, I think I might be able to get a couple more hundred off.
I had considered emailing several dealers within driving distance with my exact order and price I was willing to pay, but I never got around to it. I don’t' think I would drive for 5 hours for a few hundred dollars anyway.
I'm going with the black 'ette. I like the look of the black better. My only reservation is sitting on a hot seat in the summer, but I figured this is only an issue for a couple months a year. I'll probably buy a sunshade for the front window. I had an RX-7 with dark brown leather that didn't seem to be a problem.
Good luck with your purchase! Maybe we can get together for a drive around the Kettles next summer!
-Murray
By my calcs, the ED invoice on your car is about $28,085. I know I could get it at $1,500 over invoice without much difficulty (ED sales do not come off a dealer's allocation, so some can be convinced that any profit is gravy). If your dealer would actually go down to your lowball $31k offer on a US delivered car, perhaps a $29.5k ED price isn't worth the trip. But at a US $32k, that may be worth another thought. In my case, the 530i savings of about $3.5k would have made it a no-brainer.
Good luck on whatever you decide. You've already been fortunate enough to get the right sex child. Oops, that's going to start something!
Thanks
Also, my wife didn't want to go to Germany before May that would put delivery of the car into June or July. I know I've been looking at 3 series for nearly 2 years, but I'm definitely getting more anxious now.
I considered taking a friend along and driving up to Belgium to watch one of the Spring Classics (remember, I'm a bike racing fan) in March or April, but I don't think my wife would go for that :-(
In the end, I wouldn't use Euro delivery to save money, but to get a free, memorable trip. I'll just plan ahead a little more when I get an M5 in a few years :-)
-Murray
the inline 6 is a much more balanced and smooth engine than the v-6, but requires a "longer" engine bay... the i6 is also more efficient...
this explains it pretty well in non-technical terms.
-Chris
IS11: Are you able to mention the pricing quote you recived for a NON euro delivery from Temple ? I had planned on making the trip but may not be possible now. thanks
Well im off to Sunny San Diego ill catch up next week
DL
In short, I don't know what exact speed I was traveling. Was it 86? I would be surprised. Was I going faster than 70? Yes- I would be a hazzard at 70. I typically travel 9-10 over. The cruise on the rental was not functioning so ?? This is my 2nd ticket in about 5 years.
For those of you that say, you speed you pay, I'll expect that you will all be mailing in your checks when you look down and you are 1 mph over the posted or when you roll on the rt on red.
I agree w/ huntzinger's post. If they say I was going 86, they should be 100% sure and be able to prove it. If they say I was speeding in a 2000 Vette when I was driving a Yugo, that should be a problem.
There was no way that he could have picked me out, targeted me and pegged me accurately.
Everyone slamed on there brakes (he was just over a hill) I was by no means that fastest in that group. They were going by me as we went over the hill. I actually had to swerve into the left lane b/c a motor cycle swerved nearly hitting me. It was almost a pile-up.
Let's say I was going 80 and he tickets me for 86, should I pay it? Some say you speed so pay. Well lets say I was going 80 (speeding) and he peggs me for 120 mph, takes my license and gives a $600 fine. Do I sit down and shut up b/c I was technically speeding?
Will I pay it? Probably. Even if I was going 54mph. It's not worth the trouble of going to FL for $150. Brave makes a good point w/ ins but since I only have one other violation, not worth it.
No hard feeling to anyone I hope. Just my comments
drcr
Kominsky, did you find the info on the gas service notice
drcr
Ray
if you think about it for a second, your average american grocery getter for years came with some variation of an i6... it's only when space became a premium that v6's became more popular...
-Chris
my comment would be, "you expected to get the information and prep work that you were supposed to get from the dealer who sold you the car from the local guy you didn't buy from"...
i'm curious as to why you think the servicing dealer should go out of his way to give you information that you should have gotten from the dealer who sold you the car? and why you think they should be in a big hurry to do this prep work for you if you didn't buy the car from them?
put yourself in their shoes and honestly answer the above questions. don't know what you do for a living, but if someone bought something from someone else based solely on price and then came back to you with it and asked you to do something with it, would you be bending over backwards to help? i know i wouldn't be.
-Chris
-Murray
lol... i just thought of something... remember the pontiac grand prix "wider is better" ads? well, i guess they were right! (just not in the case of their car!!!)
-Chris
Typical muse - sits there capriciously waiting for someone to entertain her )
My thought on FWD-manufacturers decided that they could make FWD cars for less cost than RWD and convinced the public that it was better (snow traction, etc). Joe Public looks at RWD cars (Mustangs, Vettes, etc.) and they suck in the snow, so FWD is better. Now, you mention RWD and everyone thinks you're crazy if you live in the midwest! Most gen X'ers probably never had the chance to drive a RWD car.
-Murray
Gave one of my co-workers a ride in my 330 couple of months ago. Now he's looking at getting a 525 with Euro delivery.
I don't think the current (and last) Prelude's have an Si model, but an SH. The latter comes with the ATTS Dave was refering to. Plus I think all the current body styles have 200hp or something. So Brave must've been driving one from the previous gen.
The SF Auto show was weak. No new 7 series, no Mcoupe, no new 350Z, no RX8, and you couldn't get in any of the Porsches.
Question for those with rain sensing wipers. Does it kick in automatically or do you have to start it? I have my stalk set at rain sensing, but have to force it to do the first wipe before it does it automatically. Maybe I should read the manual some more.
Okay, let me come down off of my soap box for a bit. I really don't feel the need to defend myself. Moreover, in the event that you move, take your car with you, and go a local dealer/service center in your new area, then would your statement still hold true? Would you have to buy a new car there just to get the courteous treatment that anyone should deserve? I don't think so.
Ray
At the dealership today, there were none w/ 'ette. For less maintenance and worry, I was leaning toward chosing it.
With the individual options I'll be selecting on a new 325i, it costs very little more to just choose the Prem Pack. So, I'm a bit stuck...
My impression (from this board) is that the feel is comprable. Is maintenance considerably easier w/ 'ette? For those owners who have it, is the interior simply odorless?