2013 and Earlier - Toyota Sienna Prices Paid and Buying Experience

chiaw · August 2003

2004 Sienna XLE Limited, Pkg 6 (nav+dvd), running board. paid $1800 off MSRP.

kschletter · August 2003

We looked heavily at both the Ody (LX) and Sienna (CE). We feel both vehicles are fairly comparable (but here are some quick differences):

LX - like 4 way disc brakes, traction control, privacy glass, spare tire stowage

CE - like split rear seat (big advantage for us w. 3 kids!!), better gas mileage (BIG plus on long trips - an extra 40 miles between stops), comes w/ CD player

We went w/ the Sienna, even though we have to wait (and this could be significant). We got an 850 over invoice deal (northeast CT). Read back through these postings (I read HUNDREDS). You are closer to TX - supposedly David McDavid (sp?) in Houston (Dallas??) did and 850 over invoice deal also, which I used as the base for my deal. I got it after emailing a number of area dealers. Most just laughed it off. If timing is an issue for you, go w/ the Ody (the BEST deal we could get for the Ody was 22760 with destination fee included - NOBODY would/could go lower). At that price, we chose the Sienna CE for a little over $1000 less. We will get the windows tinted from another party.

A big unknown is the quality/durability of the Ody transmission. 99-01 trannys were a nightmare. At least one person also mentioned an 02 w/ tranny problems (it was a new tranny for 02). This is an EXCEEDINGLY expensive problem ($6000 to fix). We keep our vehicles until:

1. they don't run anymore (and aren't worth fixin').
2. we just outgrow them (we are replacing a 93 volvo 240 wagon for that reason).

mxylplik2 · August 2003

Could you please share with us the dealership that you dealt with in NE CT? Thanks.

lok888 · August 2003

Anyone know when they will resume the production? Toyota said couple weeks. Some say by the end of the month.

stever · August 2003

I recall seeing 6 to 8 weeks.

Steve, Host

steveb84 · August 2003

actually it never stopped but slowed to a crawl.

lok888 · August 2003

That's what I saw the memo/notice from Toyota. I don't know it will take that long. Toyota can't afford any revenue lost and they have to resume the production. With 50,000 plus Siennas have already built since February, that's about 7000+ Siennas per month. Anyway, we still don't know what part supplier involved. I spoke to a guy at a Toyota parts department. He said that he is having a hard time to order the carpet floor mats for Sienna. I doubt this is the main reason because this is an accessory or part of the floor mats & door sill protectors package (CF). I would guess the fuel tank or the parts for the power sliding door.

steve84 - Any links to confirm the end of the production halt? That's really a good news.

lok888 · August 2003

So what is their original target number, annually? Can you link me to the sites?

JOSEAGULL · August 2003

Ordered an LE 8 seater w/ #7 from LeMieux and Son Toyota. Expected wait time is 10 weeks. approx 4% discount of MSRP. More for XLE's.

bqli · August 2003

I talked to dealer about the production halt. The car I ordered was supposed to be built on Aug. 14, but because of the recall issue (or whatever), it will be built on Sept. 9 instead, which means it's going to delay about 4 weeks if what they told me is correct.

trevork · August 2003

I ordered my Sienna in June with a promised delivery late August to coincide with my lease termination. Heard on Friday my Aug 14th production has been delayed to Sept 8th. At first I thought it may be a dealer related problem re allocations etc but it seems the problem is nationwide. I am worried Sept 8th will come and go. What other info is out there? A friend or bought his Sienna 4 weeks ago is taking delivery of it this week.

kmead · August 2003

I posted this earlier, but due to posting part of the source's URL it was deleted.

According to Automotive news and a Sienna enthusiast site that carries this information, there was no reported production the week of 7/13-7/20. In all other weeks since May, production has been from 2600 to 3200 vehicles per week, with @3100 vehicles being the norm and nearly 3400 being the maximum.

This should annualize to a production of about 150-160000 vehicles per year.

Added info has been posted to that other site from a Toyota dealer document:
Vehicles involved in the SSC number approximately 33000 are early to mid 2004 models with a vin range of:

"BA22C S000023-S004413
BA23C S000020-S004414
ZA22C S000020-S040937
ZA23C S000038-S040939

Not all vehicles in the Vin range are involved. As always consult daily TIS to confirm elegibility and to assure the SSC is applicable."

Toyota is also looking for extremely high levels of service from the dealers, which may include rental cars, washing and a full tank of gas.

One of the more indicative lines in the bulletin is: "Many (customers) utilize this vehicle to transport their most prized assets, their family members."

stever · August 2003

Did you see the recent posts about the gas tank recall and related supplier problem?

Steve, Host

kschletter · August 2003

mxylplik2, email me regarding the info you asked for (your email ID apparently is no longer valid).

mxylplik2 · August 2003

I couldn't see your e-mail in your profile. I've updated mine - would you mind either providing your e-mail in your profile or e-mailing me? Thanks much.

dstange · August 2003

I have a bit of a different take on the new Sienna and "value."

I am wondering about opinions on the "relative value" of an '04 Sienna v. '02 Oddy. I am looking at the Sienna LE with package 6 to get some of the same safety features that the Oddy already has (traction control and front side air bags). The Sienna will cost approximately $28,000. A used '02 Oddy with most of the same features and 20,000 miles will cost about $23,000.

I plan to keep the van for 5-7 years. My priorities are safety and reliability. Is the new Sienna really worth $5,000 more than a used Oddy??

mackabee · August 2003

Yes.

evian1 · August 2003

I was told by East Coast Toyota (Woodridge,NJ) that Toyota is no longer accepting custom orders of Siennas. I wanted an XLE with package 2 (moonroof only) but they said the list of packages in Sienna's catalog is outdated and showed me instead, a printed page that lists only 2 packages for XLE. So now I have to pay extra for stuff that I don't want (leather).

Is this true that Toyota is no longer accepting custom orders?

steveb84 · August 2003

Ordering a 2004 Sienna is an adventure, and probably just as confusing for dealers as it is for customers. There are 97 different build combos for Sienna (before you add in color)

Yes, you can order an XLE with just a moonroof. Your region of the country may not order them that way - but it can be done.

You want the "CU" package (XLE package #2)

Maybe it's just the salesperson that doesn't understand - ask to speak with a inventory manager or sales manager. If they won't work with you, I'm sure there are other dealers in your area that will.

Good Luck !!!

bobbya2 · August 2003

Could you please email me the dealer name and salespersons name or just post it on this board so others could benefit also as this would be very convenient as well for NY / NJ buyers.

ABOUT CE PKG. # 3
I called 1-800-GO-TOYOTA and as per them you could order pkg. 3 in model CE even though it is not yet officially available in N.East Mkt.

stever · August 2003

Dealer names/location are fine, but please, no promotion of individual salespeople on the boards. Thanks,

Steve, Host

mackabee · August 2003

I've never understood that one.
: )
Mackabee

stever · August 2003

We wind up with a bunch of salespeople inviting members to email them instead of hanging out participating and answering questions. Or a salesperson will imitate a member and shill for him/herself.

I'll tell you the rest of the story.... someday, LOL.

Steve, Host

kellyko · August 2003

I just got my hands on the LE8 with #6...I have looked all over Southern CA and just found a Stratosphere Mica Blue one.
I signed some paperwork stating I will pay and pick-up by the 31st.
They wouldn't budge on MSRP! ok...after all was said and done we got out at $191 under MSRP....BIG DEAL.
I need the van for my business so I really can't wait 4-8 weeks longer to get a deal.
The positive side of it is I know I will love owning it and am really happy to have one waiting for me.

K

hst1 · August 2003

Can anyone out there please let me know where I can find 1000 off msrp.. I am looking for a LE with package 4, and cannot seem to get anything off msrp... can someone please let meknow if they found a good deal near this area and who they worked with? Thanks!!!

vpmutta · August 2003

Hi Everyone,
   Can anyone tell how is the priceing Sienna after toyota recall ?. I have seen the MSRP of Sienna are over priced with option packages.
   I have toyota camry 98 nearly 110000 miles.Car wise Camry is excellent. I am driving camry for last six years.
   Yesterday I drove nissan quest. Test drive was good. I have not driven on a highway.
   The features and price wise quest is much cheaper comes(such as NAV,DVD,Leather,Sonar,Power windows etc) than Sienna. I am unable to decide between Quest & Sienna. I have not done test drive of Sienna.
   Pls make your suggestions.

bryantjr · August 2003

I've watched this board for a few months following the trends of the new mini-vans from Toyota and Nissan. I finally made a purchase after a day of negotiating at Planet Toyota in Matteson Il.
They offered a 4% discount off MSRP. 3% was for being a member of Sams's Club and 1% customer loyalty (my wife had purchased a 2000 Solara from there). Completed deal on an XLE with Pkg. #14 and carpet for about $1400 off MSRP of $33,811.

Best deal I could find for a Toyota Sienna,in the area. The vehicle was a cancellation from another buyer and was just off the truck.

They had three other LE vehicles with pkg #1, but I wanted traction control.

nusiennalvr · August 2003

I read all the posts here, and when I read that in other areas, people were getting under MSRP, I was thinking I would be able to as well. However, in the PA/NJ area, it's MSRP or walk away. In fact, they are getting over MSRP in some cases.
I put a deposit on my van when the dealership told me that they had 3 XLE's coming in. In this area, they were coming with the pkg.#12. That's what I got. It took 2 weeks to arrive.I paid MSRP(begrudingly because I love a good bargain.)However, the dealership ,NOT the salesman, did try to sell it to someone else who offered them more than I was paying. (which was MSRP!!). So, a lot of these posts I've read are most likely dealership problems made to look like the individual salesman's fault. My salesman was a friend, and I had to get there within hours of it coming into the dealership before it was sold out from under me by a higher bidder. It was crazy....
However, I absolutely love this car!! My husband has a BMW, and I think it has a drive that is as nice as his. It is upgraded galore, although no moonroof or dvd, but I did get a number of a local place to put it in-courtesy of my salesman, so it'll have everything I could want in a car. I was not a big minivan fan until I got into this car. I can't say enough about it.
It is a little wider and longer than my previous SUV, and pulling into my garage can be tricky because it doesn't allow much leeway- my salesman told me to also be careful of the trunk, in some garages, it may hit when open. But, this car is amazing. Never thought they'd get a minivan to look/ride like this. It's worth every penny of MSRP.

sylshop · August 2003

Please, does anybody have any hints on where to get good deal above invoice in the Detroit/Lansing SE Michigan area.

None of the dealers I talked to have a clue on whether they can obtain a vehicle, but all quote MSRP.

I am interested in'04 Sienna LE 8 Pass pckg # 11 (Side curtain bags, Stability Control & DVD).

stever · August 2003

Nusiennalvr, congrats on the new van. What SUV did you drive before getting the Sienna?

Steve, Host

nusiennalvr · August 2003

Steve,
I went from the Jeep Cherokee, which I never really liked, to the 04 Sienna....The Sienna is definitely wider and longer, which presented a little struggle first time pulling into the garage...but,I love it, and can't find enough reasons to drive it!!
Thanks for all the info on the boards..it helped me be a more informed consumer.

stever · August 2003

I know the feeling and my minivan is a bit smaller than yours. Watch out for your mirrors when you back out :-)

Steve, Host

chiaw · August 2003

i am amazed. because usually the price in LA is cheaper than san fran by quiet a bit.

$1800 off MSRP was offered by Dublin Toyota by their internet manager. This price was matched by my local dealer (fremont toyota) and toyota of palo alto. All dealer in the area were willing to give at least $1,000 off sticker.

chief321 · August 2003

sylshop - I've just started looking for a Sienna in the SE Michigan area. Just test drove my first Sienna yeterday and loved it! Actually had trouble finding a dealer that had one to test drive (found a CE at the Toyota dealer in Farmington Hills). No advice for you yet, but I'll let you know what I find. I have time before I really need the van, so I may end up ordering and waiting (assuming customer orders are being accepted).

lmorales · August 2003

I was told by dealership in Northern NJ that I may have to wait up to 4 months for XLE Limited Opt. # 6 (all at MSRP). Does this seem reasonable?

mackabee · August 2003

Congratulations on your new van! Value is in the eye of the beholder.
: )
Mackabee

chief321 · August 2003

I sent e-mails from the Toyota web site to 5 different dealers in my area yesterday and none of them sent a reply today! I'm suprised. I've never purchased a Toyota before, but I expected more from their dealers. Is this unusual?

wisbet · August 2003

We got our LE-8 w/pkg #4 in Salsa Red Pearl - husband had to pick it up and pay for it but I prepared him to deal with the F&I guy & price agreed on about weeks ago was honored ($500 below MSRP, "administrative fee" of $395 waived - Costco deal). Tiny break in plastic below sliding door but they're ordering a replacement part, no big deal apparently.

Relieved to report no bait/switch or problems in pick up and we only waited about 2 weeks. I haven't seen a red one yet and I had to pick that color sight unseen out of the inventory coming to the SE (would have gotten the Aspen green/fawn if possible) but it's pretty nice and not as common as the silver or beige. Marietta Toyota did a "dealer swap" to get the exact car with the package I wanted. Color was secondary priority.

We really couldn't have afforded much more than pkg #4 (airbags very much priority) but I'm having pangs of longing for the DVD player...we have the rear audio thing on the ceiling with what looks to be a space for the DVD - is there any way to get a DVD player installed by Toyota now or is that only factory installed?? I'm out of luck, right?

What a great car!!! We are marveling at the turning circle as compared to our Explorer! (We have a sharp turn to get into our garage).

sarniasting · August 2003

First, Steve my humble apology for my earlier post using my name. I can now see where it could be interpretted wrongly. It will not happen again. Sylshop since you are in the area if you want to test drive a LE or CE eight seater Bailey Toyota on Confederation St., Sarnia, Ont. accross from Port Huron has both models on their lot. They have done business with lots of Americans and you can buy at under MRSP.

evian1 · August 2003

Just got off the phone with Route 22 Toyota (Hillside, NJ). They are offering 500 off MSRP for all 2004 Siennas. There is a long wait though...

chuy8 · August 2003

two weeks ago, bought a LE option#1 for $1000 off, and added leather for $1350. OTD $28,500.
Took it on a 9 day trip through Oregon, and loved the van. Avg. 26.5 mpg, and the ride is smoother than anything I have driven. So smooth in fact that I got a speeding ticket doing 87! Wasn't even trying to speed, but looking at the scenery and the van got away from me.
Power? how about 75 coming up the grapevine.
Love the van. Excellent value.

mackabee · August 2003

It depends. When you send an e-mail through toyota.com, it then goes into the particular dealers e-commerce mail box. From there it has to be downloaded through Dealer daily by someone in the dealership that has access to the e-com mail box, usually a Sales manager or General manager. Sometimes, depending on how big the store is or how busy they are, it will be days before these e-mails are downloaded. I just went through this with our district manager and the dealer daily people and our in-house IT techs to re-route these leads straight into my lead tracker, which in itself is a stand alone web based program. It took about a week to get all parties on the same page but now I'm getting these leads. Have you tried calling and asking for the Internet sales manager?
: )
Mackabee

mxylplik2 · August 2003

I was told that Sienna XLE Package # 14 was no longer being built and that 100% (based on August's TBO) of Sienna XLE (not limited edition) were being built with the "FR" or Package # 12. Is this dictated by the dealer's region or by the plant that is building these Sienna's? One dealer indicates that the can't order it and another dealer says that they can. I was on the Toyota website last week and I couldn't build a Sienna XLE with Package # 14 - today I try and Package # 14 is available. Who "in the know" knows for sure? Thanks.

kbpa · August 2003

I took delivery on an XLE FWD with #14 on 8/15. If you browse back to the july timeframe, you can find my posts on difficulties in ordering. It's my conclusion that dealers/salesperson fall into one of three categories:

1. Ignorant of how to order packages that are not "standard" for their region
2. Too lazy to send the one email required to reconfigure an allocated order to the desired configuration.
3. The very few that are willing and able to do so. I bought from Tuscaloosa AL Toyota. Email me for more details. My wait from day of deposit to day of delivery was 31 days. (Mine was built the week prior to the shutdown/slowdown.)

mcpowers · August 2003

Hi:

We are thinking of buying the base model and wondering what anyone paid in Canadian $ for their Sienna. Do you know what the vehicle cost the dealer, or any suggestions you can give us when buying this vehicle.

Thanks.

Smiles

mcpowers

lok888 · August 2003

Despite the production halt, I finally see some progress in shopping for a deal on Sienna (LE, 7-seater with LE pk #7) here in MA. I sent emails almost every deal here and only five replied. Two out of five insist MSRP. Another two offer $500 off. The best that I can get is $900 off. I asked for $1000 off but they have to check with the manager or want to see some deposit. Should I make a move now? Some suggested that I should wait until more Siennas in the lot (maybe in Spring) and they just want to put me out of the market now with months of waiting.

stever · August 2003

Canadian invoice pricing is hard to come by, especially for free. There are one or two services that provide invoice and holdback info for a fee.

Check out our Tips & Advice link for buying articles.

Steve, Host

mackabee · August 2003

What region of the country are you in? In the central atlantic distributor area (VA,MD,WV,PA,DE,NJ) The breakdown is as follows on model 5346 Sienna XLE: 20% ordered with FR (package #12) 60% ordered with GH (package #14) and 20% ordered with GJ (package#16). These numbers are based on our August TVO. Try finding a dealer that will work with you to get this package.
: )
Mackabee

mackabee · August 2003

You're probably looking at late September, mid October delivery times due to the 2 week halt in production we just experienced.
: )
Mackabee

wantsienna · August 2003

I'm in PA. I have a dealer in Wilks-Barr willing to sell me a Phantom Gray XLE #14 (GH) off of his existing allocation due to come in late September/early October. He has not said that he can make any changes, either in color or package. Can he do that? He's willing to go $1000 under MSRP. Will I really see delivery in late September/early October, or should I expect the 6 week delay I've heard about elsewhere?

I've also been in contact with a dealer in Pittsburgh who will order me exactly what I want - Blue Mirage XLE #5 (CZ) at $1000 under MSRP with delivery set for Thanksgiving. Do you think that is realistic?

On a side note, I found a web site for a fleet dealer that puts an order today at delivery at Christmas. (Of course, that's a fleet order and may not represent the general consumer)

Any comments would be appreciated.

TIA

2013 and Earlier - Toyota Sienna Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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