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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    You're welcome! A short while after the switch to synthetic, you should notice a slight improvement in engine smothness and noise, and perhaps even a marginal (0.5-1 mpg) improvement in fuel economy. At least this was my experience after the switch.

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  • turbotcturbotc Posts: 163

    I heard negative comments on Castrol Syntec. Some people (including Mobil) said they "falsely advertised' and that it isn't a true synthetic oil. I would definitely stick to Mobil 1 if they give me a choice. I asked my dealer yesterday and they said "Nope, that is new to me. We only use Kendall here." Kendall? No Thanks.
  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    Amount does not include labor charge. Next time I will visit Walmart before the dealership. By the way the engine is noticeably smoother than before and the cabin noise level at highway speed is comparable to the GS-400 (this is a compliment).
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Vinh, all MBUSA dealerships should be using ONLY MB approved synthetic oils by the middle of next week, so make sure that the oil that they're using is one of those on the list. Yes, if they have Mobil 1 (and they should) certainly go with it if it's what you want.

    Jean, that sounds rather pricey for what you got then. No matter, it's a small premium to pay for the benefits. At least you'll know what to do the next time around. Go with the Mobil 1 15W50 at Walmart; FYI, Mobil 1 0W40 is not for the general public consumption, and hence only available at MB dealerships.

    Here's something interesting. Mobil 1 specifies on their website that 15W50 is for "high tech imported cars". Guess all of the MB vehicles qualify! :-)

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  • turbotcturbotc Posts: 163
    Drew. Thanks for the info. I called my dealer and spoke with a different advisor and he told me that they ae using Kendall Synthetic oil for MY2000 and MY2001 vehicles only. He said I could request Mobil 1 at no additional costs. I asked him about if I wanted to have oil changed in between schedule service. His reply was "Well you would have to pay for it. We charge $9 a quart for Mobil 1 and you are looking at 5 quarts so I say about $70 for the service." 5 Quarts? Where did they get these guys from? Hello? It's 8.5 quarts. $9 a quarts, no thanks.
  • I'm in the 2nd week of ownership of a Silver/Charcoal E320 w/ E2, Heated Seats & CD Changer. The car is fantastic!! I haven't had a Benz since 1997 (I owned a 1992 190E-2.6 new). Now I remember how great these automobiles are! I paid about 5% over invoice & took a 39-month lease -- After that I'll be ready for the new model E-class, which will have been out for a little over 1 year.

    I have a couple of questions that I'm sure I can get answers to here:

    - are the memory seats, mirrors, etc. stored by the key? I can't find that info in the manuals

    - has anyone experienced installing the mud flaps themselves?

  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    Congratulation for a great car.
    a) My 99 E320 has the memory feature on the 3 driver door buttons only. I think it is same for the 01 E.
    b) I am using mud guards since 14 months. These mud flaps are not bolted to the body, but attached with clips. Unless you are careful you may lose the rear ones when backing into snow banks or tire guards. You should be careful enough when when backing, otherwise you will find they are quite efficient.
    Enjoy the ride.
  • 4186441864 Posts: 4
    I Have a 99' E320 4matic. I Live in Virginia. What viscosity of Mobile 1 should I be using?
  • vp16vp16 Posts: 23
    Here's the site for Mobil 1 oil formulations and a brief description:

    I just put some 5W30 in my 01 430.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    Suggest review of Drew's Post # 898. MB is going with at least 40 weight oil, so I would assume that either 5W40 or 15W50 would be fine for Virginia. I'm in Northern Virginia and will use one or the other when I have my first oil change at 5000 miles.

    carshopping4 - I believe the memory for the driver's seat, headrest, outside mirrors, etc. is activated by first pressing the appropriate numbered button on the driver's door (1, 2 or 3) and then pressing the green button below the others. My '00 E320 has the same feature on the passenger's (right) door for the front passenger seat only. The key will not store the settings.
  • microrepairmicrorepair Eastern MassachusettsPosts: 508
    Re: questions on memory buttons;
    If you want to SAVE settings, you first push the green button and then whichever number you want to store the settings in.
    If you want to RECALL your settings after someone else has changed the settings, just push and HOLD the 1, 2, or 3 button, whichever you had set for yourself, until everything stops moving.
  • ahmadmahmadm Posts: 15
    I see the message from 'jures' (post# 900), in which he mentions that he changes oil every 5K miles. Any recommendations on this ... is changing oil more frequently beneficial? Some of my friends have suggested that the MB's FSS is possibly a high tech gimmick since they now cover regular service as part of the purchase. Before the FSS, MB used to advise oil change at every 5K. Any opinions?
  • turbotcturbotc Posts: 163
    I recently changed the oil myself. At 5500 miles, I changed out a new filter and 8.5 quarts of Mobil 1 5w-30. When the car is due for 1st schedule service, I will let the dealer do it. i will request Mobil 1 but who knows what brand they use. Then between schedule service I will change myself. I actually enjoy doing it. Get the radio on the garage and take my time and do it right.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    My service advisor at the MB dealer said an oil change every 3000 miles was unnecessary; he recommended every 5000 miles. The computer in my '00 E320 indicates the first service in another 9200 miles -- and I have about 4700 on the 9-month old car. So I'll have the first oil/filter change at 5000 and switch to Mobil 1 5W40.

    BTW, several months ago someone posted a lengthy report on oil changes by Consumer Reports. It was based on testing the oil contamination/quality on several NY taxis and, if memory serves, there was no appreciable engine wear even after going 7000 miles of stop-and-go driving. So, perhaps the MB FSS is okay.

    Drew, can you help here?
  • I have E320 2000 and changed my own oil at the 5000 mile interval. Most of the dirving is
    highway. If one can judge by looks of the oil, I hate I went to the trouble. Also, the MB dealer
    recommended 10W30.
  • juresjures Posts: 42
    I installed the h7 optilux bulbs in in the headlights of my y2k e320 11/2/00, this morning the drivers side went out, called the dealer for warranty replacement, he stated he was not impressed in the new design on the optilux bulbs, that I should send them back to him and he would return my money. doesn't sound good for a long term optilux solution, I should have ordered xenons with the car. does anyone have a sucess story with long term use of optilux or some other brand, i really like the whiter look. thanks roger
  • taisontaison Posts: 71
    I have installed these and they are great. They are not as blue as the Hella Optilux, but they do put out more light. There is no tint to them therefore allowing more light.

    Here is a link to a website that did tests on them and several other bulbs. The VisionPluses were the best.

    I purchased mine from

  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    I installed mine around the same period and the passenger side failed few weeks later. I sent them back early January 01 for replacement and was told it will take 5-6 weeks. Apparently Hella new production can barely cover the warranty replacement for H7 55w. I do not understand the statement "he was not impressed in the new design". Does he mean that new production of Optilux is worst than last year? I spoke to him on Monday and he assured me that the new production is definetly more reliable.
  • hq200hq200 Posts: 1
    I was on this board months back when we got our 00 e320 and enjoyed it. The only "problem" that has come up on this fine car is the continously smeared windshield during a rain storm. I've washed the glass, wipers, you name it to no avail. I seem to recall it was a common problem with this car; a case of an over engineered windshield wiper? In any event, I'd appreciate any info on helping to remedy this problem, thanks in advance.
  • I also agonized about waiting until the fall of 2002 for the 2003 E430, but ended up going ahead with a 2001 E430 4Matic. I ordered it in late September 2000. The scheduled delivery in January was missed, and now they are saying March. Whenever I have a recurring doubt about my decision I just visit the showroom. One look at the car and I'm sold again. Besides, it should be more reliable than the 2003, and I heard the 4Matics may not be available at the introduction.

    The 2003 will apparently be "evolutionary". To see an artist's rendition of it, look no further than the Edmunds site! From the Edmunds home page, go to "Editorials", then "Future Telling", then choose Mercedes Benz. Voila, it's there!
  • I had not too pleasent experience in the snow with my C230 (MY 1997).( By chance E 320 4 Matic Wagon was sitting in the Garage). I have decided to move up from the C-class and have the following questions bugging me as I am wondering about the choices.

    1) E 320 4-matic
    2) E 320 with standard ESP & Traction control etc.
    3) Audi A6 4.2 Quattro vs E320 / 430.

    I need as much input as you wonderful folks can provide

    1) How is the performance of E 320 with Traction control / ESP vs.4Matic. I have the 4matic and love it but have no experience with the non 4- Matic. Cost differential of $ 2850.
    2) Did some top level analysis between A6 4.2 and E 320 / 430. In short, equally equipped (Loaded) costs were as follows (MRSP).

    A6 4.2 - 300HP V8 - $ 52,350(Quattro Included)
    E 320 4 Matic - $ 56,495
    E 430 4 Matic - $ 60,835

    These prices assumed all available options (Moon roof, Bose,Heated Seats, Xenons, Rear window power shade,MatellicPaint, 6 CD Changer ..) except the command & built in Telephone.

    Which one is the real deal?.

    Your valuable input will be much appreciated. Don't want to make a mistake due to my ignorance. I have never owned an Audi but love the Mercs especially 4 Matic wagons.

    Anticipating some lively discussions. Thanks in advance.
  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    As a result of numerous car wash/wax my windshield was polluted with many layers of wax/smear/etc.
    I spent countless hours (and $$$) trying all tricks and all available legal solvents. Here is the easiest and most efficient way to clean your windshield:
    1) Spray your windshield with a house cleaner such as Mr. Clean, Hertal, Fantastic....
    2) Wipe the windshield with "newspaper" (preferably auto section) or any disposable paper towel. I like newspapers because they never leave lints behind. Replace the paper immediately when wet. If you use a towel (or same wet paper) you will simply spread the oil/grease/wax from place to another but never remove them. Repeat the process "many times" until you see satisfactory results.
    3)Test your work by putting your wiper on automatic while spraying water on the windshield. If the smear if gone then wash the body around the windshield to remove all cleaner residu then jump to next step.
    4)Finish the work with a glass cleaner (Windex or simple ammonia)using newspaper. Next time it will be much easier. Never wax the car at the automatic car wash. Good luck.
  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    My car was the only one at the college parking lot late tonight. No other car ventured in since afternoon because of the two inches of heavenly and slippery ice. You can access/leave the parking only through a 8 degrees narrow ramp. No car/truck dared in. The freezing rain was so abundant that salt/calcium/stone were useless. Streets were almost empty and for once I felt I own the city. I got in/out with no sweat. At times like this nothing in the world can get you satisfaction like the feeling for having made the right choice. I love my 99 4MATIC/ESP/TRC. Go for it man. And by the way if I ever need to buy the A6 I would go to the turbo model which is sportier while the 4.2 is more quite inside. I love the panel of both. Now I made it even more difficult.
  • hjbornhjborn Posts: 20
    I also had a lot of problems at first with the windshield streaking. I think it must be the residue of the packing materials that are used on the car before it is shipped (or perhaps some contaminant that it picks up on the way). At any rate, the service manager at the dealership recommended rubbing the windshield with a cut lemon, and it worked! As someone on this forum pointed out, the active ingredient was probably the citric acid in the lemon. You have to work at it a little, spend maybe 10 minutes rubbing it on, but finally it comes clean. Have had no problems since then
  • We're planning to get a '96 E320 very soon. Any thought on its reliability and/or any problem with this model year, since it's the first year model of current E-class.

  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Exactly! The W124 and W126 Mercedes-Benzes were the definition of Mercedes-Benz. They were probably the best built Mercedes cars ever. I personally still find it hard to resist buying a 1994 or 1995 model E just because, but I need a "new" car so I guess it will never be. The E500 in particular is probably my favorite Mercedes of all time, only the current SL and new CL coupes challenge that status. It's amazing how new 560SEL's look today, 10 years after the last one was built. I just don't think these newer Mercedes modes will last like those did.

  • The other evening the station attendant overfilled my gas tank--a mess. Since then, the needle on the fuel gauge reads a full tank when the engine is on though by now it should be down at least a quarter. Does this mean that the sending unit in the fuel tank is cooked, or what?
  • rowlandjrowlandj Posts: 254
    I know some time back (on the old software) there were some threads about the 2000 E series having problems registering a full tank of gas. With mine the best I can do is 19.5 on the electronic display and the guage needle never gets quite to the full mark.

    Was there a known fix for this? Is it the tank, the guage or a combination?

    Any information would be appreciated.


  • I just bought a new 2001 E320 and have a question about the alleged Smartkey option. I asked the sales rep at the dealer about it and he had no clue, the marketing brochure that they gave me indicated that it was a standard feature, specifically what I am interested in is the User recognition feature that is linked to the memory feature of the drivers seat, etc... I can find no mention of this in the owners manual. A friend of mine that bought a 2001 C claims that there is a menu selection to set it up via the interface on the steering wheel. I can find no such option. Any help is appreciated.

  • Does anyone know how to shift the case of alpha characters in the command center of my new E320?? For example if I save a phone book entry I can't figure out how to shift to a lower case character in the entry description. I've looked throught the user manuals and can't find reference to the issue.....

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