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Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedans



  • read on a leasing message board that the c-class has high residuals. can anyone tell me their lease deals, and with what bank?
  • dennettdennett Posts: 332
    Actually his son was second, a car he owned and that was driven by one of his best friends, Michael Waltrip won the race. In fact Dale was trying to protect those two by blocking everybody behind him, and that in all likelyhood contributed to his passing. It's truly hard for me to say that he's gone, but he is. RIP
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Oops, my mistake. I just remembered that from Speedvision's Raceweek. I just thought that it was amazing that he survived the races in the '70s and '80s, but didn't make it this time around.
  • mga3mga3 Posts: 51
    The suggestion of writing letters to the Dept.of Transportation (DOT) by sshowitt at message #1316. Is one of the best suggestions I've read so far.

    If the DOT get involved. I'm sure MB will stop dragging their feet and find a proper solution.
  • djasonwdjasonw Posts: 624
    If MB had listed this feature all they had to do was put an asterisk next to it and in small print say (late availability). It is way too often that I see this in new vehicles. The new Ford Explorer will have a stability system standard on 2002 vehicles but it explicity states in their literature that it will be LATE AVAILABILITY. I am sure you folks have done the research and I implore you to continue your fight to get what's rightfully yours.

    With respect to my decision to cancel my subscription to Tele-Aid after the first year, well that's just me. I drive mainly in the NY Metro area and the Northeast corridor where the feature of air bag deployment notification would not matter to me. Once that happens around here it's a VERY short time before help arrives/is notified.

    The few times that I tried Tele-Aid it was painfully slow to get an operator. I am talking minutes, not seconds. Maybe it's improved since the last time I used it was last summer.
  • kkuetkkuet Posts: 28
    for those of you who have problems with tele-aid (unlocking the doors, etc.), are you referring to the info center saying malfunction of the SOS. or is it a completely differect thing. if it is, how do you know that the tele-aid is not working?
  • w2p2w2p2 Posts: 63
    had to wash my white C-320 this weekend. I noticed on my car being white, that there was a line a blach dirt down both sides. The indentation that runs down the sides traps dirt and it does not wash out. you have to take a towel and use the edge to run it down the groove. Minor problem, but it has to be done on every sem. The dirt showed up real well in these seems.
    I'm getting 21 MPG right now, with less than 400 miles on my car.
    I got 2 deductions on insurance. One for the daylight running lights and lojack
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    That assumes they knew about the problem going into the release and early enough to change the brochures.
    It does sound like bad QA for them not to know though :-P
  • This is the answer somebody from get when he contacted his dealer about the unlocking problem.

    "Service manager finally got me what I needed to know:

    1) Yes, a fix is in the works.
    2) Timing will be some time between March and June.
    3) Will be at no cost to the customers.
    4) Reason for the problem -- MB rushed the car to market without a feature that they did intend to put on the cars. His theory is that since it is really quite hard to lock your keys in the car, they let them fly.

    He was not sure whether MB or my dealer would be the one to notify me when it is ready. He suggested I check back in May if I've not heard from him or MB.
  • i drove my first mercedes last weekend... i never experienced anything like it.... I was wondering if any of you know if there is 'room' in the price for negotation.... the dealer i went to seemed to imply that there was none for any mercedes... am i missing something???
  • Just to let you know that the dealership is ordering a new latch for the trunk and hopefully that will fix that problem. I haven't had the seat checked out yet. I figured I would get one thing done at a time. Concerning the seat problem, if you think about it, what if you were in a bad crash (do not want this for anyone) but if the seat is obviously loose and rocking (what happens if the seat gives way in a crash and your seriously injured because of this). I don't think MB would like this at all especially if owners had complained continually about the problem. I hope that MB is looking at some of these problems.
  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    See these Posts re: Lease rates etc...
    #1121; 1122, 1123, 1126, 1130, 1140, 1149

    Residuals: (as of Jan. 2001)
    36 months = 70 %
    39 months = 68 %
    42 months = 66 %

    If C 320s are "sitting" on the Dealer's Lot you "might" be able to get a little off MSRP.
    Better chance of having items included in your deal: 6 CD changer at cost, all weather mats, trunk tray, cargo nets etc...
  • 404c404c Posts: 146
    I keep reading about rocking seats in the C. My understanding is that this may be part of the design.

    There are two small coil springs at the lower rear of the front seats. These have given rise to squeaks in at least one press test vehicle (a French road test I've seen). Mercedes' press release at the introduction of the C Class (April 2000) mentions the existence of these mini-springs. If the rocking that you are experiencing is due to these springs, I doubt that anything can be done about it.

    On the other hand, there is no safety issue related to the springs.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    According to Curt Rich, part of the reason why MB switched to Mobil 1 (besides the significantly improved low/high temperature protection) is because many US non-synthetic oils did not live up to their specifications, and MB had some engine sludging problems. Apparently the European specifications for non-synthetic oils are much tighter/tougher than over here in North America.

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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    All of your new C-classes have specially designed Bosch Platinum-tipped F8 DPER spark plugs. The following is from the press release, hence it is okay to post it in here. Unfortunately, the URL is too long for me to post.

    "Successful original equipment application: Bosch Platinum Plugs for the new Mercedes C-Class and SLK 320

    The Bosch spark plug F 8 DPER has been specifically designed for the Daimler-Chrysler SLK 320 and Mercedes C Class and is fitted to these models at the factory. It meets in an optimal way the special requirements of the Mercedes high-tech sports engines in view to ignitability, performance and elasticity as well as long life, maximal fuel utilization and protection of the catalytic converter.

    The extruded central electrode and the pointed mass electrode are coated with the precious metal platinum, resulting in a significantly increased wear resistance. The optimized design of the mass electrode guarantees dependable performance and ensures that the fuel-air mixture is reliably ignited. This not only makes optimum use of the fuel being fed to the engine, but also provides even better protection for the catalytic converter even under extreme operating conditions such as stop-go traffic or over-enthusiastic starting."
  • i don't think teleaid = lojack since i was told that they can only track you with teleaid when the car is on. lojack can track without the car being started.
  • I check in from time to time on this board.... have a '99 230... changed the oil at 6000 and 13000 miles I now have 22,000 and I am scheduled for "B" service next week. My question is I thought you could not change to Mobil 1 after the car has had a couple of oil changes using regular oil?????? something to do with the oil seals. And how many miles between oil changes using Mobil 1.Thanks
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Oops, I forgot to mention that the above press release is from the Bosch website. Thanks Pat!

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  • nycanyca Posts: 232
    Hey, that good news, I have Amica currently. If they give that discount, that means the TeleAid payes for itself really, just for the tracking feature.

    Who says it only works when the car is running? Is that confirmed.

    The main flaw with LoJack is that you need the police to track the vehicle. I've heard that LoJack works best when the crook parks the car is some residential area to let it "cool off" for 48 hours before driving it to the chop shop or to the port for shipment overseas. Then at least you have that time to get the police to track it.

    How does it work with MB, do you call TeleAid and ask them "where's the car right now"? That sounds like a better system, then at least you could call the police and tell them "my car is here".
  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    Went for a 2 hour drive today in N.J. bright sunny beautiful day, 45 F. Love the C 240 6 speed more and more !! Friends are very very impressed and so am I. Brakes squealing just a little with light brake pedal pressure, but most of the time no noise at all. Hear the "Tick Tick" from the engine and my Salesman told me Mercedes uses something different than a "rocker" arm and that may be causing the tick tick. Seems to come and go, not that noticeable. I'll get the technical description from him and make a better note here.

    Washed the front rims, removed the carbon brake dust and got on a coat of carnuba wax on the rims, which will make it much easier to wash off the carbon brake dust in the future. Need to be careful that the carbon dust does not adhere to the warm/hot aluminum rims, as it can virtually "bake on".

    The Desert Silver (light Gold) / Charcoal interior is getting rave reviews here, even my neighbor with a Silver 2000 SLK 230 wants to get a new C Class now for next Fall.

    The C 240 6 Speed is AWESOME!! and plenty of power on the Highway & hills in 5th gear and I am restricted on the Revs right now on the first 1000 miles break-in. Have not revved past 4500 so far. Simply an AMAZING automobile !!
  • tariktarik Posts: 344

    Hi everyone,

    As to the seats rocking, several German car magazines have held this seat design with the two little springs under the back of the seat cushion against MB already. Most of the time, they consider the seat too "jumpy". A safety issue it isn't, since the only motion needing to be suppressed by the seat in an accident is the dive your lower body could possibly take under the seat belt. If the back end of the seat really drops, your body would only try to slide UP the tilted seat cushion, which is more than unlikely.

    As to speed and power, all I say is wheeeeeeeeeee...


    That should do for any domestic use...


  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    I was wondering where you disappeared to. I haven't seen your posts in a couple of weeks :-) Good to have you back.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Glad you're enjoying the C240! Has the Subaru gone yet? Any pictures? :-)

    FYI, the wheels are painted and clearcoated, which is why it is so easy to wash the brake dust off of them. No need to worry too much about the dust being baked on. Just try to wash it every 5-7 days, depending on how much you drive the car.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Since 4-5 pm seems to be too early for the MB chat for many West coasters, how would 6-7pm Pacific on Tuesdays work out for all of you? Please let me know.

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  • dennettdennett Posts: 332
    6-7 Pacific time would be much better for me, but like I told you, I'll find a way to be there no matter what, even if I have to log on in my classroom right after school gets out. I've got a T1 connection in my room, but it's still not as fast as the @home cable connection! I would imagine that quite a few people out west would still be working at the earlier time.
  • dennettdennett Posts: 332
    How many miles did you drive her this weekend? I can just imagine the huge smile on your face! We took ours out for two big drives this weekend ourselves, man do I love the feel of the car. Glad to hear all is going well! Hey, did you get my e-mail?
  • tariktarik Posts: 344
    Hi Drew,

    I am always here, like a software running in the background...

    Unfortunately I still don't own an MB (psssst, don't tell), therefore I decided to keep quiet. Of course, when the chance came to show off the speedometer picture, I just couldn't resist...

    Funny that my salesman in Germany still denies that there is going to be a 4matic C-Class, may be I should dump him as a source of information!

    Birger, could you please find out about the price of a driver's side mirror glass for the ML (Convex, auto-dimming and heated)? the dealer in Germany quoted roughly $110 for the item, I wonder if it costs the same in Luxemburg.

    Bragging Tarik
  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    That's a great photo Tarik ! that you took on the Autobahn, or I hope your passenger snapped...
    Even with my PNI SWS Detector, I know I will never get close to that MPH.

    Subie is gone for Retail Sale, AutoHauler picked up today from MB Dealer.
    'Twas a good AWD !! but is the MB 6MT ever smooth, I've been roughin' it the past 3 years...

    Sorry for the poor exposure (and the incorrect date stamp on Photo 1...LOL)>

  • spndxspndx Posts: 36
    So, I see from reading "Long Weekend..." that some things never change. My '97 C230 creates brake dust like you wouldn't believe. I wash the front wheels at least every two weeks, regardless of weather (I live in the Northeast). At least on the '97 it sure looks like the dust 'bakes' on - the front wheel spoke holes have little black spots on them that are impossible to remove. Has anyone tried the disks that go between the brake assembly and the wheel? They allegedly keep the wheels clean. I wonder what the MB service department would say if they saw those on a vehicle.
  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    Will check my office email tomorrow a.m.
    The ride is incredibly SMOOTH !!! and so quiet inside. (again coming from a H-4 Boxer that was probably 110 DB...LOL). I've been telling friends about Tarik's story (I think it was his) where the MB he wanted to get by in the LH lane on the Autobahn just pressed the "Up Power Rear Sunshade" routine...I laugh every time I think about that....

    I like starting off with the Engine Temp. display showing and once it reaches ~ 85 C I switch over to whatever else is it is a touch chilly here in the Tri State...
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