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1. Yes, you are crazy.
2. Perhaps not everyone here has the money to buy a Jaguar, which by the way, amongst the rich with money to dump in the ground is not all that unique.
3. When did uniqueness become a qualifying factor in buying a family sedan? What, would you have us leave the suburbs and join the commune?
Silly little troll, you're in a thread about a family sedan. Why don't you go flame the Civic SI guys or something?
B. I have an actual Impala. (That is why I don't want everyone else in America to own one.)
C. I may indeed be crazy. (But, there's nothing crazy about not wanting to drive the same thing as everybody else, despite "different colored socks".)
D. I don't flame. Disagreeing is not the same as flaming, which usually involves personal insults, like "silly little troll".
E. Good luck with your credit. I had the same issues at one time. It'll come back around in time. No need to get all up in someone's face simply because they can afford things that you can't at this point in your life.
F. The Jag cost less than half of what the Impala did.
1) Impala sales were down 4.1% in the first four months of this year, a time when car sales overall fell 5.8%.
2) The Impala won some top quality rankings in its market segment, beating the Camry in initial quality in last year's rankings from J. D. Power.
3) Critics have panned its styling.
I wonder which "critics" the WSJ is referring to. I couldn't disagree more. Cliff
I just don't understand why someone would find it a positive thing that there will be more and more on the road. I think that would be a negative for any car model. For instance, it's easily the most negative aspect of CamCords, BMW 3's, and post 99 Mustangs.
I'm beginning to think that Impala owners will put a positive spin on any bit of Impala news from GM:
"GM announced today that all male children of Impala owners over 8 years of age will be required to work in the Impala plant in Oshawa to meet expected demand."
Oh boy! My son will make Impalas! That meens my car is really popular! Maybe I can get a free tour of the plant!
And there are Impala owners who are nine years of age? (Impala owners over eight years of age!)
J/K!
(Children of Impala owners)
With the popularity of the Impalas, I'm hoping Chevy will increase the price for 2003. This will help increase my resale value.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/business/07CARS.html
Impala, as well as other GM W-body, are great highway cars. Perfect fit for these trips.
You wrote:
"A. You own a dodge, with an eye on the Acura RSX, which is hardly a family sedan. (Nice choice though. Acura/Honda makes a good car.)"
-->I test drove an RSX. Doesn't mean I'm going to buy it. It was a fun day for me. But also keep in mind you're missing the point--I didn't come on to a family sedan thread and insult the car for not being a sports car, now did I?
"B. I have an actual Impala. (That is why I don't want everyone else in America to own one.)"
-->in your bio, you state "Wanna buy it?" which would imply you really don't like it in the first place.
"D. I don't flame. Disagreeing is not the same as flaming, which usually involves personal insults, like "silly little troll".
E. Good luck with your credit. I had the same issues at one time. It'll come back around in time. No need to get all up in someone's face simply because they can afford things that you can't at this point in your life."
-->Your "D" and your "E" completely contradict each other. My credit had absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. You only bring it up to insult me in a round'about way, and then you have the nerve to say you don't troll.
I came onto this thread to see what people's experiences were in owning this car, not to see someone bellyache that a popular sedan is getting too popular, and then state people are stupid for wanting one.
Some of the mystique is gone.
Just yesterday, a co-worker came to me and mentioned that she saw me in the Impala and that she was looking to check one out. A couple weeks before that another co-worker did the same. I offered both a "test-drive" in mine.
I wouldn't shun anyone interested in the Impala or GM for producing more to keep with demand because it is indeed one of the best cars out there, IMO.
Many of us here could be considered "pioneers" if you will because we saw something in the 'ol Impala that others are just now coming to realize.
Now if you all will excuse me.. I have to forage through the 20 Impala's in the lot... where's mine?
RR
I think the issue of "Impala saturation" is mental, more than anything. I dont' notice any Accords or Camry's out there, but I know they are definitley prevalant.
While shopping for that next car, have you ever went to the dealer and then for the next 2 weeks after see nothing but that model you were looking at?? Happens to me. Now all I see are Impalas - every thing else is simply sheetmetal on 4 tires.
OTH - Bonnevilles may soon go out of production - the other side of the popularity coin. At least Impalas have a great outlook based on their sales volume. Perhaps I'll end up in one yet.
BTW - I see Impalas everywhere here in the Boston area but LS models are still a rare sighting.
Are you sure you've actually driven one? (Or been inside of one, if you're too young to drive).
A. The point being that you don't own an Impala. I do. A valid point.
B. I'm looking to sell it to avoid two monthly car payments. You should dig that. (The Impala's is twice that of the Jag's. Plus, if you saw them side by side, you would make the same choice.)
D. Still stands. You are getting so hot under the collar, that you only feel flamed.
E. I was attempting to reassure you that things will be okay in time. I went through the exact same thing with my credit report. I did the right thing, and it still took years.
Did I say people were stupid? No. I suppose if someone were stupid, they might misinterpret it that way.
I stated that I don't understand why someone would find the saturation of a car model that they own to be a positive thing. I think it is a negative thing. I enjoy the fact that only 120,000 or so XJS' were produced in its entire 20 year history. Perhaps only 20 or 30,000 were convertibles. (Shoot, GM cranks out that many Impalas per month.)
People disagree. Get over it.
I get quite preturbed when reading reviews about our beloved Impala being "unsophisticated" because it has a push rod V-6 (what good is DOHC, if there are reliability issues?), strange styling (that unique red plastic a** grows on you after a while), some imagined suspension weakness (I've whipped it around some "fun" roads and many Interstate miles and have confidence and comfort in its abilities.),and uncomfortable back seat (I'm 6'1" and don't have a problem with back seat positioning). That trunk holds more groceries than my Grand Caravan ever did! If you run out of gas in this car - YOU ARE BLIND ! Rub strips at shopping cart height, Windshield washer holds a gallon of fluid.
Two negatives:
The glove box needs to be able to hold the Owner's and On Star manuals.
There is a sore need for air conditioning ducting in the back seat area.
Could it be better? Sure. Anything can stand improvement. It's got potential for high performance too!
deacon/garypen: it's evident to me who's a troll and who is droll [go look it up :-) ]. . . LH
Deacon, we all know gary is not a troll - he expresses his opinions and if you happen to disagree, that is fine. Feel free to post a reasoned message about why you disagree. But just because you disagree with him does not in any way make him a troll.
Please understand that your argument is over in this discussion - if either of you want to discuss it with me, email me. If either of you want to continue with each other, email each other.
And then there was a REAL troll who showed up here - I've removed his post and a response. If he shows up again, please do not respond. I'll remove his posts as soon as I can. I've mentioned this elsewhere, but this crummy (ooops, did I say that??) software makes it very difficult to delete one post, let alone a bunch. So no response at all would be very much appreciated by your tired-fingered host. ;-)
Pat
Sedans Host
I think your posts are indeed "droll". ;->
If yes, is it something my son must read for not be outside of a common, mainstream American culture?
That link is slow to load, but it tells you a little about the author and gives you the text of the poem.
You may find the KYB "Gas a Just" to be a little too firm, anyway. Rock hard.
Shocks with good sport handling reputations are Bilstien, Koni, and Spax.
It sounds to me like you might actually prefer the ride of the KYB Gas a Just. If they carry those for your car, you may want to try them instead of the GR2. They're dirt cheap, like $40 each.
You know what? Ever since I started driving the XJS, I've gotten used to a low seat. So, I lowered the seat in the Impala as far as it will go. It's perfect now. (Just like Teo's)
It didn't make the glove box any bigger, though.
After coming out of the movies on Sunday, we forgot where we parked the CL. It makes this timy little beep, like a laptop computer does, when you hit the lock button. You can't hear it at all from even a few feet away. I was PO'd.
Next time, I'll hit the panic button! Thanks!
For what it's worth, I've never misplaced the "popular" Impala in a lot, only the "unique" CL. So that's what crow tastes like. Tastes like chicken.
It is my opinion that the European sourced cars have a better ride/handling compromise than American cars.
As for scan tools, pending codes are potential DTCs that haven't recurred enough times to trip a true code and MIL. Pending codes go away when you shut off the car. DTCs stay around (without tripping the MIL after the condition clears or you shut off the car). Current sensor conditions out of range will trip a pending code but only a true DTC will cause freeze-frame data and sensor history values to be stored for later diagnostics.
memiumfry - No difference in interior quality between the CL and Impala? They must be making the 2002 CL's a lot different. Driving both cars on a daily basis, I'd say, rather conservatively, that the interior quality difference is by a factor of a bazillion gajillion. Well..maybe not that much. But it is discernible.
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