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Rich
Coastal Blue ES, 4 seasons, 6 CD Changer, rear step plate and roof rack. About as close as I'm going to come to exactly what I wanted without custom ordering.
Those who understand numbers, and those who don't 8^)
TB
j/k
Rich... or anyone else ;-) : Do you know if '03 ES models will have carbon-fiber-ish or Plood dash treatment? Man, I feel like a rookie these days!
@, Here's my math class.
1)Borrow 20,000K/60Months = $333 monthly
2)Borrow 20,000k X 16.66 = $333 monthly
They work out to the same payment, example #2 just uses the multiplier (16.66) to arrive at the same payment as #1. Don't think of 16.66 in dollars, it is not, just a number for 60 months.
Pjd58
It now has approx 600 miles. I think this is
pretty decent considering half the time we
were 5 people in the van and also
AC was on due to Texas summer all the time.
Thanks to everyone for their help and patience. I'm ready to get serious with a Mazda fleet manager now! Well, after my convention and such...
How 'bout a Mazdaspeed MPV with a much lower suspension, and stiffer too, AWD, some massaging of the intake bits and/or some compression increase, in a stick shift.
Since I'd use this for a work vehicle, you could leave out the middle row of seats, and I'd use the magic 3rd row seat if it were my turn to drive for lunch.
Only needs one side door as well 8^)
Mazda, are you listening, how 'bout some real zoom zoom in the MPV.
TB
Just back from a hot sweaty AutoX event, where I think I took 3rd in STS
TB
I have the dunlops, a 2000 MPV.
I am running them about 35 psi but frankly the front left tire looks low, low enough that I pulled into a gas station the other day to add air and it read 35 without adding any.
So can I trust those pressure gauges that pop out the back? This one it plastic but it seems cheap, it was all I could find easily ( 2 little kids with me usually).
When I checked the tire, the car had been driven 5 miles to town, sat for 40 mins and then driven about a mile, so were the tires cold or not?
What differences besides a bumpier ride does adding more air make.
Jane
In my experience, modern radial tires can often look low, but still be fine. Which is why it is good to check them with a gauge periodically rather than rely on eyeballing them.
As long as the slide on your gauge does not appear to be sticking or catching at all, I think it would be consistent from tire to tire. Whether it is accurate or not I guess you could determine by comparing it to a decent gauge believed to be accurate. I use one of those pencil gauges, too. While it may not be the fanciest, I think it is consistent (i.e. all four tires will be at the same pressure) and acceptable.
Question--When you checked the left front and it read 35psi, did you have a chance to check the other tires as well? What did they read?
Dan
Rich
Tire gauges: I second Dan's thoughts above. I use one of the "cheapies" too and it does the job fine. My FIL has a nice digital gauge - I may look into getting one as well.
Cold Pressure: You want to go by the recommended pressure listed on the tire placard of 35psi COLD. Tirerack.com has this to say about cold pressure readings - "Cold conditions are defined as early in the morning before the day's ambient temperature, sun's radiant heat or the heat generated while driving have caused the tire pressure to temporarily increase." So, check your tires COLD and make sure they're 35psi. The best time is first thing in the morning after the vehicle has sat overnight, before you drive it anywhere.
Max Pressure: Again, Tirerack defines it this way - "A tire's maximum inflation pressure is the highest "cold" inflation pressure that the tire is designed to contain. However the tire's maximum inflation pressure should only be used when called for on the vehicle's tire placard or in the vehicle's owners manual. It is also important to remember that the vehicle's recommended tire inflation pressure is always to be measured and set when the tire is "cold". It is also normal to experience "hot" tire pressures that are up to 5 to 6 psi above the tire's recommended "cold" pressure during the day if the vehicle is parked in the sun or has been extensively driven. Therefore, if the vehicle's recommended "cold" inflation pressures correspond with the tire's maximum inflation pressure, it will often appear that too much tire pressure is present. However, this extra "hot" tire pressure is temporary and should NOT be bled off to return the tire pressure to within the maximum inflation pressure value branded on the tire. If the "cold" tire pressure was correctly set initially, the temporary "hot" tire pressure will have returned to the tire's maximum inflation pressure when next measured in "cold" conditions."
My new Dunlops (SP4000 a/s) have a max inflation of 51psi. That's good because Mazda says to use 35psi - a 16psi difference. So, if I set to 35psi cold, then drive extensively, my max inflation hot should be aroung 40-41psi. I would not inflate the Dunlops above 45psi cold because the resulting hot inflation, which would probably be around 51psi, may exceed the max inflation set by Dunlop.
Load Rating: The max load rating for the Dunlop tire is within Mazda spec for the MPV, iirc it's 94. The new tires that came on my rims were 95, even better. However, the X-Ones that I had on the MPV were 92, which was under the Mazda spec. According to Tirerack: "A tire's maximum load is the most weight the tire is designed to carry. Since a tire's load carrying capacity is related to the tire's size and how much inflation pressure is actually used, maximum loads are rated with the tire inflated to an industry assigned inflation pressure. Additionally, load ranges are used to separate tires that share the same physical size, but differ in strength due to their internal construction. "Higher" load ranges are used to identify tires that have a stronger internal construction, and therefore can hold more air pressure and carry more weight."
Hope it helps .....
Either way it's probably would not good to drive in the 100 degree weather expected over the next couple days with this overinflation.
We got in a Sage Green MPV-ES with the carbon fiber dash and DVD today...
Seems were spilt as to who likes the carbon look and who does not...
Rich
Rich, I haven't seen the carbon fiber look dash yet, but like the plood better than the standard matte-black treatment... color me tasteless.
You say you are bying some new 16" rims? Does your Mazda have 15" rims now? My MPV has 15" rims with dunlops and I am thinking of getting some 16 inchers cause it looks better.
What does it cost to get 16" rims put on?
Thanks,
Michael
Thanks!
But geesh that one still looks low to me, I know that "modern" tires look that way to some extent, but.... I guess I am still in SUV mindset to some extent as the tires on our wrangler don't really buldge at all, but they are 30 inch and a much heavier tire. Can't remember how the others looked, perhaps we have been doing it wrong all along.
BTW any idea how many miles, give or take, I can expect on these Dunlops, they are original factory installed.
Thanks!
Thanks for all of your message which encouraged me to go with 2002 MPV. I've been watching this forum for 2 weeks and finally got my Sand MPV LX yesterday. The price I got was $300 over invoice at the local dealer. If I go to another dealer(60 miles away), I could get it for $300 below invoice. I like my MPV pretty much. It had only ONE mile on odometer before I check it.
The MPV LX is an incredible value. With the same amount of money I couldn't even get a good sedan with alloy wheel, cruise control, keyless entry, a/c, CD, and V6. I drove an Odyssey before and feel this one is much easier and faster to move.
Good luck and enjoy your vehicle!
Mike
The dealer was ready to move the vehicle as well - I was prepared to use the S-plan, but was unable to find a white ES with moon roof, 4 seasons, and spoiler -the midwest supply was pretty slim when the dealer pulled up the list of available White ES's. To get what we wanted (and did not want the roof rack -- who really gets up there to put stuff anyway), we decided to deal on the demo (also had 6 disc changer and fog lites - 2 option s that I could have done without for the $700).
Sticker 29,777, invoice 27,443, purchased for 26,222 and we took the 2K rebate for final price of 24,222. Now we can not only love our second Mazda (we also own a 1992 Miata - kept for when we're tired of toting the kids around), but we can love the price we paid!
Has anyone bought an extended warranty recently and had any prices for 7/0/100k plans - we hope to keep this a while.
Good luck in dealing with your local dealer - hop e your dealer is as motivated to sell.
TIA, Elaine
I can't speak for your area but here in the Northeast we have a tremendous MPV shortage!
We used this to track down an ES with moonroof, which appear to be rare in my area. Our ES has the 4 seasons, which seemed to be on all of them here too. YMMV regionally, :-)
-Brian
You must be really good and lucky to have
such a great price on such a great vehicle.
-
Fellow 2002 MPV ES owner!
We went to a local dealer and they had never heard of a two-tone interior. We imagined it was, for example, maybe two color tones on the seats or steering wheel. It could be kind of nice looking.
Has anyone here heard of such an interior color combo or are the only two interior colors gray and beige? Thanks.
RJ
Personally, I was leaning toward a slightly used Grand Caravan for the larger space and bolder, better proportioned look. But since she drives it the most I relented.
Anyone else notice the hot wind coming from under the right front door when standing beside the door while idling? I guess its the discharge of the cooling fan.
The dealers in Dallas get almost no Coastal Blue's, saying that nobody likes them. But I saw one in Hartford last week that looked good.
Why all the fuss about such high air pressure? Aren't you making the ride very harsh at 35+ psi? Also, has anyone tinted the front side windows to match the look of the back side windows? Is this easy for a tint shop to match? . . . Thanks for the insights!
http://www.mpvclub.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=1005
There's also a link from there to the poster's own site.
I have been doing a good deal of research on the MPV and I feel it is the best suited minivan for me. I want to get the best deal possible. I am interested in the 2002 LX w/ 4-Seasons, Security Package, Rear AC, Roof Rack, Floor Mats, Cassette, and Rear Bumper Step Plate. Edmunds puts the MSRP at $25,335 and the TMV at $23,784. That is around 2% over invoice. How low dare I go on price?
Now to throw a wrench into the works. My brother-in-law is also looking to get a new minivan. I have told him about the MPV and he seemed interested. Do you think a dealership would be willing to deal more on the price of a couple of vehicles knowing that they would be able to sell two? What is the general opinion here?
60 months if you buy a Protege or B-series truck.
The heading is negated by the small print below.
Regardless, you can still get 0% for 48 mos with no payments until January '03.
-Brian
(Fish fry of Lake Trout or perch tomorrow night from L. Superior country, Javadoc, but somehow it's not quite the same).
Steve
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Hauling trout (real stretch for content...) in a new MPV would be really awesome! Don't try and fry them on the exhaust manifold tho... not good.
My demo had about 5,000 miles, and runs great. We made them clean it (fair job) and my only complaint is that when they delivered the van, they did not have the remotes and I have to take it back when they come in.
Had it just under a week - my wife & kids love it, and I think it drives and rides well.
Good Luck!!