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  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    Well I made an appointment to put the Pirelli Scorpion 265/75R16s on the Trooper tomorrow. For some reason they are $93.99 here (instead of $89.99 reported by duktrooper), but that is still better than I expected and a significant discount off of the regular price of $112.99 here.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    What are you guys doing for the speedo difference with the bigger tires, if anything.

    -mike
  • ppounceyppouncey Member Posts: 19
    Have 265's, not presently doing anything to correct speedo. Someone posted on another group that the plastic speedo gear at the tranny end needs to be changed, that other Isuzu gears weren't available, but that Toyo gears might fit. Don't know anyone that has done it tho.
    HTH,
    Pat.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'm just worried about being hammered for the 7% difference in speedo when I have a warranty claim...

    -mike
  • duktrooperduktrooper Member Posts: 78
    for time being, I'm not going to do anything other than the math in my head. I figure if the dlr really wants to be a dork, I'll go to another here in town. They might have a point in getting you to recalculate mileage from time you put tires on...but that seems relatively minor.

    sdc2---maybe the ad prices vary slightly by region but $93.99 is still awesome price.
  • duktrooperduktrooper Member Posts: 78
    Came home for lunch today and lookee at what I found...my new ECB bar. Can't wait to get it on. I almost had a close call today with some guy in front of me suddenly braking at light change.

    Mike---I'm going to look over instructions and your email again to see if I want to tackle. I may need to ask you a few questions once I get into it. How many nuts will I have to hammer/chisel off?...I haven't gotten under vehicle to look lately but will tonight. Thanks-John.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Cool, glad they are arriving. 2 Weld nuts, should take no more than 5-10 minutes with a light sledge and cold chissel.

    -mike
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    duktrooper, you are right it is an excellent price, and I am getting 5 new Scorps RIGHT NOW! :-)

    Also, I had one of those "you weren't home" messages from DHL on my door yesterday. Had to be the nudge bar! Signed the delivery release, so I should find the nudge bar waiting for me today when I get home.

    New tires and a nudge bar, all in one day! Woo Hoo! Oh oh, is that the Visa bill in the mail?
  • mkayemkaye Member Posts: 184
    In case anyone is considering new shocks, I just purchased a set of Rancho RS 9000's from hotrod-offroad.com. They were great to deal with. Quick, courteous, professional, and untouchable prices. I also got the remote control system, but haven't mounted it yet.

    What brought this on was I helped my friend, with a 96 Trooper, install a set of Bilstein shocks on his. The on-road handling was fantastic. Marked decrease in brake-nose-dive and body lean in corners. Also, a marked improvement in control over bumps, dips, and uneven road surfaces. We haven't tried these off road.
    So, I thought time to change mine.
    I went with the Rancho RS9000's. Off the bat, at setting one, they were dramatically SOFTER than stock to my hind-end. At the setting 5 they felt about as stiff as the Bilsteins we put on my friends Trooper. So far, for on-road, I prefer 4 on the front and 3 on the rear for good control and not too stiff a ride.
    Guess what, if I spent virtually all the time on the road, I would prefer the high-pressure Bilsteins. I think the monotube to be superior in rebound control and on-road handling vs. twin-tube design. The benefit to me of the RS9000's is the adjustability. My thought is with washboard dirt roads or substantially uneven surfaces, the Bilstein's may be too stiff. Off-road, the RS9000's are great. On wash-board roads, I can leave the setting at one and not have to lower the tire pressure as much for a decent ride. For rock-crawling, I can turn them up for better bounce control. So, I'm happy with the Rancho's but it looks like what I really want is a high pressure monotube shock with adjustability like the Rancho's. I think next is upping the tire size a little for increased ground clearance.
    Just thought I'd share a little. This is a great forum, I visit every day.
  • duktrooperduktrooper Member Posts: 78
  • bsmart1bsmart1 Member Posts: 377
    I've got a factory 3rd row seat that came in my 97' Trooper Limited. The color happens to gray if that would match your interior. I presently am not using it, and have removed it, put it in storage. If you're interested let me know, and maybe we can come to an agreeable price. It looks just like the one posted on parsians web page but it is not cloth covered.
    bsmart
  • bsmart1bsmart1 Member Posts: 377
    Back about message #430 or so, there was a discussion about Polk speaker replacements for the factory speakers. Someone mentioned how great the Polks sounded. I'll admit Polk makes some good equipment but I'm not that impressed with them, when running side by side with the Isuzu factory speaks. I had installed Polk's in my 88' Trooper several months ago, and they were a significant improvement there. Based on those results, I decided to put them in my 97' as well. I installed one on each side front and rear at first, to do a side by side comparison. I'm not sure I spent my money wisely on this purchase. The factory speaks were just as clear thru the full range as the Polk's and had just as much "punch" in the bass. They were actually clearer and brighter in the mid-range/vocals frequencies. The only difference I could detect was their ability to handle higher volumes a bit better than the factory speakers. The Polks are rated at 40-60 Watts where the factory speakers are only rated at 15 Watts. Anyone considering speaker changeouts might want to take this into consideration. But, if you're changing your head unit to something of higher wattage output, Polks would definitely be the way to go!! Anyone know what the output power of the factory Isuzu head unit is?? Very good post by the way, to the speaker installation or dummies person. It worked out just like you described.

    bsmart
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    Well, Polks are fine speakers, I have an set of old Polk Monitor 10s in my living room, would never give them up. But there are a number of other car speaker brands that are just as good, such as Boston Acoustic, also some of the better Infinity speakers, Alpine, etc.

    Point being, Polk is not your only improvement option...
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    My ECB nudge bar arrived yesterday, and I unwrapped it last night (they must have used a mile of tape on the packaging). This thing is built! Heavier gauge tubing than I expected, and the finish looks very durable, though time will tell if it is as durable as it looks.

    The mounting instructions look OK, I'm guessing it will be much more clear when I am underneath the bumper actually looking at the setup for the brackets...
  • duktrooperduktrooper Member Posts: 78
    Maybe we ought to do a conference call with Mike when we're ready to install. With my aptitude, I'm liable to attach it to the muffler/
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If you look on my webpage I have some diags of the bracket. But if someone who has a digital camera could snap some in-progress shots that would be great.

    So far in a year my bar's finish is holding up well, even with a few run-ins with toyota corollas parrallel parking.

    -mike
  • kobokokoboko Member Posts: 34
    Is it pretty straightforward to mount the factory tube side steps on a 2001 Trooper? Is there any drilling/welding required? The dealer is telling me that it is a 2 hr job (1 hr each side) and pretty difficult to do without lifting the car-- in simple words he wants $168 for the job! I was figuring that these things simply bolt-on to pre-existing tapped holes or something? Clarification on this would be greatly appreciated, because i'd rather install them myself. Also, where would be the best place to purchase these tube steps, so far the best quote I've gotten is $317 thru mail order for regular black ones. Thanks a lot!
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    Did you try St. Charles Isuzu? They probably offer the cheapest price on a factory parts...

    If you are willing to look at aftermarket, check out East Coast Bullbars of Australia...they seem to offer a quality product, and with the exchange rate the prices are decent.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'll try to get you some prices on ECB if you want. Maybe I can get a group rate again. If we can get 3 or more orders I can swing a deal, and hopefully it'll ship quicker than the nudge bars.

    -mike
  • radman6radman6 Member Posts: 81
    I've been looking around for a set of side tubes myself. I checked out Smittybilt (nerf bars)- but they don't make anything for a Trooper. The shop suggested trying something that was close. Would rather get something that was designed for a Trooper in the first place. I'll keep looking and will post if I find anything.
  • duktrooperduktrooper Member Posts: 78
    Count me in as very interested in side bars as well. I'm looking for a set that is really snug fit next to lower panel and one that could take the blow for any rock damage on trails.
  • isuzukidisuzukid Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone know what the part numbers would be for a set of rancho RS9000 shocks for a 99' rodeo? i was planning on doing the CP Lift on my rodeo, but i wanted to make shure the part numbers were correct? Has anyone had any experience performing this lift? Is it hard or can any novice do it?
  • beer47beer47 Member Posts: 185
    I bought Manik brand side steps through Pep Boys. You can buy them direct over internet from manufacturer but the difference wasn't that much. Besides, I had Pep boys install them so why not get them shipped in to them directly. I think I paid about $90 for installation. They only attach in 2 places so they really have to be torqued down good. I watched the installation and I tend to agree with the dealer who said it is better done up on a lift. There are a couple types out there so "shop around" (Smoky Robinson)
    There are not as many as you will find for a ford/chevy though; good luck.
  • dwinzendwinzen Member Posts: 10
    I would be interested in the 3rd row seats for a trooper; will they fit in a 95?
  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    Others have installed them no problem. I put on the hidden hitch (5 bolts total) no problem. I would think they would be an easy install, but you would want them positioned and supported before putting in the bolts. Also, don't tighten either bolt tight until they are both in and snug. You should use a torque wrench and apply the specified torque, so that you don't shear the bolts or the weld nuts.
  • bsmart1bsmart1 Member Posts: 377
    This 3rd row seat should fit any Trooper model from 92'-99' possibly 2001. They haven't done anything in the rear compartment area all these years to change the dimensions. The seat sits between the rear tire wheel wells, and they are all the same. If you have other questions you can mail me directly at bsmart10@hotmail.com
    This seat came out of my Limited which has leather seating in it. This 3rd seat is either leather or vinyl. I haven't looked at it closely enough recently to know which.
  • guillguill Member Posts: 94
    Hello all! I bought a 2000 Trooper S last month and think it's the best SUV made. I've been lurking on this board for awhile reading the posts. I wanted to post earlier, but problems with AOL and cookies wouldn't allow it. Now that's fixed I look forward to conversing with all of you. I've been posting on 4x4wire for some time now, another great site.

    Couple of questions if you guys don't mind?:

    Arktrooper: do you have any pics of your trooper with the Wagg center guard? I'm curious as to how it looks on a trooper, can't seem to locate a pic on the web anywhere.

    Paisan: Your web site is great! I've been collecting a lot of info on Troopers so if you are interested in any how-to I could send some to you. Also, I see that you have an owner's gallery, any interest in another gallery of just random Trooper pics? I've gathered quite a few in my web journeys. Finally, I've found quite a few of good Trooper sites, (parts, pics, etc) if you'd be interested I could send you the links and you could pick the best ones to add to your site. Not trying to screw with your site, it's great, just offering contributions, please don't take offense to my ideas.

    Anyone out there have Thule or Yakima bars/roof racks? How do you like them and do you have any pics?

    Sorry the message is so long, just excited to be able to finally post. I'm somewhat new to the Trooper world (been researching them for 9 months now) but not new to the SUV world, previous owner of two modified Jeep Cherokees.

    I'm not going to mod my Trooper very much, don't want to void the warranty. Here's what I've got so far.

    - 265x70/16 Yokohama Geolandar AT+ tires with full size matching spare on factory alloy wheel
    - K&N air filter
    - Weathertech floor mats
    - Tinted windows 30%

    Future mods:

    - Thule roof rack
    - Hidden hitch
    - Factory fog lights (in the mail)
    - Rear Airlift 1000 airbags
    - May change out shocks

    If anyone needs a hard shell spare tire cover I've got one for sale.

    Thanks again.
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    Has anybody inquired if the 230hp chip from the Axiom can be swapped into a 3.5L Trooper???
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Send me everything/anything you got! I love not having to fill the site with content on my own :) The more you send the more I'll post. I want to make it a "one-stop shopping" for people to get all kinds of Trooper/Isuzu info.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I keep joking with my buddies @ the dealer that I'm gonna test drive an axiom and swap out my computer with the axiom. I may try to find an axiom in a junkyard to pull a CPU from in the future.

    -mike
  • guillguill Member Posts: 94
    Will do! I think that would be great to have a website that is "one-stop-shopping" for Isuzu/Trooper info. Give me some time and I'll get the stuff together. I've found some good websites for Isuzu accesories overseas, one site in particular in Dublin has some nice stuff and the website is in English of course, which makes it easier.
    I've got to say, one thing that disappoints me about Isuzu is the lack of accesory/performance support from the manufacturer. I wish Isuzu would be more like Toyota with their TRD department.
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    How do the Axiom torque numbers compare with Trooper? Sometimes you lose torque when you gain horsepower...

    Mike, next time ask your dealer buddies if the Axiom/Trooper chips are a direct swap...if yes then ask how much they cost [yikes!].
  • guillguill Member Posts: 94
    Hey, does anyone know where I can get a chrome center cap for the 5 spoke alloy wheels that came with the 98-01 Trooper S. I don't want to have to buy a new one, prefer used, new costs $75 at St Charles, I only paid $200 for a used wheel. TIA.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The Axiom torque = to the Trooper @ the same RPMs. I wonder how much the new one would be? $500 for the part (it is a plug and play operation as far as I know)

    -mike
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Member Posts: 2,554
    I installed these myself outdoors on a cold December day in Michigan. It took me 3 hours but anyone with a decent amount of mechanical common sense should be able to do the job in 1-1.5 hours.

    My 98 Trooper was on the ground; IMO, there's plenty of room to work underneath without a lift. The side steps mount via bolts to existing holes in the frame.

    I think I paid $278.40 including free shipping from St. Charles Isuzu. These were the black Isuzu side steps, not the chrome/aluminum ones.

    This is NOT a job that will take the dealer 2 hours. With a lift, I would say 1 hour tops, probably less. I'd do it yourself and save the money. Even though it was a hassle for me (I'm not good with wrenches), it was simple enough and worth the cost savings.

    Only problem so far is that the rubbery grip stuff for stepping on has bubbled up off the metal side step a little bit. I need to Super-Glue it back down or something.
  • randers3randers3 Member Posts: 19
    Have done a lot of looking and I haven't been able to find any bolt on bars for Trooper. Rockstomper makes some weld on bars for $250. These seem to be strong enough to be able to use a hi lift jack and protect from rocks.


    http://www.rockstomper.com

  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    I have one it is great. Install is a pain, but wind noise is low (actually only when it rains) and it is strong. There are pics on the picture board of My truck with the rack on it as well as another guys too.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hey all,

    I met up with Matt from Independent 4x in Brooklyn over the weekend. Great guy. He is making me a custom rear bar that goes into the hitch and is 54" wide. This bar will basically be flush with the back of the tire, and have a no-slip surface on the top of it. 2"x2" steel. For those of you looking at the waag rear bumper guard, you can forget that one, and get this one instead. As soon as I get mine in about a week, I'll post pics for you. I may have some pics of the mockup that we made on Sunday within a day or so.

    Matt also makes boulder bars that are very strong, but need to be welded onto the frame of your truck. They can also act as side-steps, but are strong enough to jack up the truck with.

    -mike
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Member Posts: 2,554
    I should have mentioned that these suckers seem very sturdy. There is no noticeable flex while I bounce up and down on either step. I'm about 185 pounds, by the way.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Here is the prototype of the rear bumper protector, actually it's pre-production, this was just thrown together to size it up.



    image



    -mike
  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    I'm looking at that and thinking that it probably wouldn't have protected against the guy who clipped the corner of my bumper and under the light. Is it possible to extend it on both sides a little more at least to the edge of the bumper. Also, will the bar twist due to play in the receiver when hit at the far edges and end up going into the bumper. How far from the bumper is the bar/protector?--I can't tell, but it may be far enough. A little further out might prevent it bumping into the bumper if hit on the far edge.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It can be made as wide as you want. Since the bar is 2"x2" Tubing with 1/4" thick walls (most hitch material is like 1/32") it is gonna be strong. The weakest part will be the welds on it. Matt over at Independent4x.com will custom make them to just about any width you wanted. As for distance from the bumper, it sits about 2.5" of space from the bumper to the 2" bar. so your extended length from the bumper will be about 4.5" roughly. I have to go pick up the final product on friday, andI'll post up pics of it as soon as possible. :)

    -mike
  • cd1000cd1000 Member Posts: 16
    Also give me some feedback on bug guards. I the Isuzu brand ok? Too noisy? Stick on or screw? Chris
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'd get a screw on one, but not the Isuzu one. Everyone I know has either snapped the corners or the corners tap on the fenders @ higher speeds. Get a non-wrapping around one, or if it is wrap around one, not the Isuzu one.

    -mike
  • pat_pendingpat_pending Member Posts: 36
    I have never had a bug guard.

    Is there anything they accomplish, other than keeping some or most bugs from hitting the windshield? I admit that I dislike stopping on long August trips every two hours or so to clean the windshield, but I think I prefer that over having to look at the guard all the time.

    IMVHO, they look a little too 'JCWhitney'.

    Any input?

    -Ken
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I have had them on both my Rodeo and my Trooper. They don't really stop the bugs, but I have had them protect my hood and windshield from stones. Since it curves over the front of the hood, any stones that get kicked up first hit the bug guard and slow their velocity down so as to not damage the hood. I have had the bug guard successfully stop a # of stones from scratching my hood and/or windshield. I like the smoked color ones personally, and the ones that mount to the underside of the hood, not the stick on type.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I got pricing on the bars, looks like they will be cheaper than expected. $150 + Tax + Shipping. I am picking mine up tomorrow and will post up final pics of it on the vehicle. Glad Matt from http://independent4x.com was able to bring it in at a very reasonable price.


    -mike

  • jbkennedyjbkennedy Member Posts: 70
    My wife and I just bought a 2001 Rodeo AS 2wd. They are now putting the spare tire underneath the truck, which I like. However, the spare comes right up to the edge of the rear bumper and it does not appear to be enough room to install a trailer hitch.

    Is it possible to install a hitch on this model and has anyone out their done it?

    I really enjoy everyone's comments on the Isuzu boards!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I know they make a tube hitch that will accomodate the under-mounted spare tire. I'll try to get some part #s for you.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Matt from http://independent4x.com is actually working on front and rear bumpers for the 1st gen Trooper. But from our calcs last weekend, it should fit the 2nd and 3rd gens without a problem. I'll ask him when I see him tomorrow if he has plans or could make one for a 3rd gen.


    -mike

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