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Jaguar X-Type
thebandleader
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This car seems like it will be really cool. I had a 95 Mystique which was also based on the Mondeo platform and it was a blast to drive.
Well, what does everyone think of the new X-type?
Well, what does everyone think of the new X-type?
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Dodge Neon (just to see if you noticed...)
Another car you may want to add to that list is the Volvo S60. I just ordered one (the high performance T5 version), and it is an awesome ride! I chose it over the german cars since it is bigger and IMO better looking. It probably won't corner like the RWD/AWD cars, but it still handles extremely well and has a comfortable ride.
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Congratulations on the Volvo order. It sounds awesome.
I read once in a automotive magazine that the initial Mystiques/Contours had a negative profit margin in an attempt to have them catch on in the US. This was cool for folks like me who had a limited budget. The car was better than its price would have indicated. I certainly felt it was so.
2. When is the street date? I can only hope a sample will be at the Dallas New Car Show in March.
Late summer/early fall ... 2001
Then again, an Escort blows the Neon out of the water!
hee hee
I am already falling in love with this car.
For me, I like the styling ques, but that is always one's own opinion. Someone, somewhere, might even like the new Aztec...
I prefer the x-type's lines to the 3-series BMWs, but I am sure someone out there would disagree...
Does anyone have any idea what kind of hp and torque ratings this car will have with the 3.0 liter engine? Since I am indirectly asking about acceleration I would also like to know what kind of braking ability this car has. If the opportunity to accelerate quickly is designed into the car I would also like to see the ability to decelerate quickly. Go Jaguar!
I can't wait for it to come out- a baby jaguar is what they need. I think they should of come out with the X-Type and then the S-Type. Jaguar predicts it will increase sales at least 50%. They now have a line to compete in every market with their competition.
3.0 L V6: 231HP, 210lb.ft torque, curb wt. same, 0-60 6.6 man. 7.1 auto
Dark Wood is not fake, rather it is the same dark stained wood used in the limited edition silverstone model, and will only be available with the sport pkg. So if you don't like it get the non-sport model with traditional bird's eye maple trim.
Leather and all wheel dirve will be standard equipment unlike Audi and BMW
I was mortified that the new model would be based upon the FWD mondeo platform, and early reports said it would be a FWD car. Thank you Jaguar for using the AWD and making it a RWD bias. If it was FWD, it would make the fact that it was based on a Ford that more real.
But for a company like Jaguar, it should stay RWD because it is first and foremost a sports car company. Oh sure, the XJ's are big, luxury cruisers, but when pushed, they still respond.
I hate it when global planning gets in the way of these historic companies. I couldn't care less if Lexus decided to go to FWD, but companies like Jaguar, BMW and Mercedes should always be RWD.
A.R.
One other thing, if you think the dark wood is ugly buy the regular model.
It is true though that if it is a 60/40 weight bias, no matter how much you weight the vehicle down, it will handle like a FWDer. The AWD system is heavy- it adds about 350 lbs. to the passat 4MOTION.
It seems that with the exception of BMW, any car with a sport designation either comes with extremely dark wood, or the fake aluminium accents.
Jag did it with the 1998 XJR- extremely dark wood which they eventually dropped for some lighter stuff. It seems as if I am putting a lot of emphasis on wood, but one of the things Jags are known for is their fantastic wood. My XJ has more wood than a desk, and it is like a mirror. Don't ruin my ideal Jag image with PLOOD!
A.R.
If you check my earlier post you will see that the Jag is no lightweight, but the A4 2.8 Quattro, the 330ix, and the X-type are all within 100lbs curb wt. of each other. and the Jag has more HP and torque than either of the others. If by handle like a FWD you mean you wont be able to snap the rear end around you are probably right, but that is exactly what AWD and DSC are designed to prevent.
2. What is a ballpark cost with the 3.0 engine?
3. Can one opt for the 3.o awd without a spoiler on the rear deck?
And I am upset that the backend won't step out on you. That is what driving a RWD car is about, and with the AWD, it seems to me like Jaguar is selling out! But there is no choice, so I may have to stick with BMW.
A.R.
1. When will it be available to drive?
August 2001. The car is supposed to be at the car shows in Geneva and New York and, according to a Jag dealer here in Detroit, the car should be available for test driving late summer, early fall.
2. What is a ballpark cost with the 3.0 engine?
The cost range hasn't been nailed down, with estimates ranging from the low-30s to the low-40s.
Depending on what package you get, what electronics you get (i.e. navigational, etc.), a 3.0 engine reasonably dressed-out should probably go in the 36-39k range. There's a lot of ifs built in.
3. Can one opt for the 3.o awd without a spoiler on the rear deck?
I hadn't heard or seen a spoiler on it yet and, to be honest, I doubt it would look right, but I'd be willing to bet you could get the 3 without the spoiler.
Now word yet what a loaded 3.0/auto will cost.
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Steve
I guess its safety vs. nostalgic tossability. I like to see Jaguar moving into the 21st century.
A.R.
assembly plant fully painted and with the doors on. The people take great pride in the cars and the smallest flaw does not go uncorrected. The Brown's Lane plant is very old and at the time of my visit was only able to build 50 cars per day.
Pricing will probably top out around 40K for 3.0L auto w/ DVD nav, Sport Pkg., Voice activation, and everything else. I would guess mid 30's for a well equipped 3.0L
There is a subtle spoiler similer to the one on the XKRs, it mounts flush to the trunk lid, as part of the sport pkg. So, yes by ordering a lux model you can get a 3.0L without the spoiler.
The X-type was designed from the outset to be an AWD vehicle. If it was intended to be RWD it could have been built on a shortened version of the S-Type Platform. Contrary to someones earlier assertation the S-type platform can be shortened to make a small RWD. That how the new Thunderbird is built. The fact that it is intentionally difficult to oversteer the car is intentional. Breaking the backend loose into oversteer is only useful in dirt-track racing. The only people I expect to be dissapointed by AWD instead of RWD is our body shop.
Come on, man! It's fun! (If a bit hard on tires!)
I agree that RWD is more fun than FWD or as a friend of mine calls it wrong wheel drive. However from an driver's perspective AWD should be even better by providing even more traction better performance and handling. Look at the porche carrera 4, the Diablo, and the Nissan Skyline. There is a reason that AWD is illegal in most forms of racing. AWD also cuts down on wheel spin enabling faster launches especially for non professional drivers or people who do not wish to demolish their clutch.