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one other thing, i'll be paying tax 5% in my home state MD.
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I was thinking about offering about $1000 below invoice price and see what happens. The other option is to tell the dealer to install a DVD and I will pay invoice price.
Also, Could anyone tell me what is a good price for a 06 Touring with NAV. I believe the 06 Touring comes with the standard DVD unlike the 05. I am in Northern California, but if a good deal is to be had in Southern California, I will definitely fly there to pick it up.
Thanks in advance.
How much does McDonalds and Starbucks knock your head in every day.....you dont cry about them?
We used Carsdirect for a couple of years, this was a while back. They didn't do much for us business wise. Autovantage is one of our 3rd party vendors and the quality of the leads we get (from Edmunds) is pretty decent. The highest quality leads come from the dealers own web sites though.
Was this what you were looking for? I am giving you the dealers side of the equation here.
Holdback is an amount which is 3% of MSRP less the destination fee, which dealers have to cover the non-cash generating costs of their business...such as lights, insurance, employees etc.
Wanted to give some info for those of us who live in Paradise and have only a limited amount of dealership to bargain with.
Saw a thread about someone receiving $600 under invoice from Airport Marina in LA. Emailed them and asked them to match. The internet department accepted and matched that price. Bought the EX-L Silver Pearl Metallic for $27,658 + $45 doc. fee. OTD $27,703
Now comes the trucking and shipping. Pasha Hawaii arranges for a trucking company for $120 to inspect and truck the van to the docks (to avoid paying CA 8% tax). Shipping cost was $900 to Oahu. They were excellent. Due to the holidays my van didn't get onto the ship the day it was suppose to be loaded. They graciously offered to provide me with a rental until it did arrive. They didn't have to according to their contract. They are not tied to a specific delivery date. Picked up the van at Aloha Auto Auction on Ahua St. with only 18 miles on the odometer.
Breakdown on cost to buy from LA:
$27,658.00 Airport Marina Honda
45.00 Doc fees
120.00 trucking/inspection
900.00 shipping to Oahu
236.70 vehicle registration/plates
15.00 safety check
1,108.12 4% state tax
[B]$30,082.82 Grand Total [/B]
Prices quotes I received here on Oahu:
Pflueger Honda $32,500 OTD
Windward Honda $32,645 OTD
Tony Honda $33,840 OTD
Costco pricing $100 off of MSRP
As you can see I probably saved $2500 and probably will end up spending it on accessories and extended warranty form Erika. Would do it again. Lots of email and phone calls but it was worth it. Luv my new van!!!!!!!
Mahalo (Thank You in Hawaiian) for all the help I've received from this forum!!!!
There is nothing wrong with holdbacks. But there is everything wrong with dealers portraying "invoice" as their true "cost." I have personally witnessed dealers doing so. There is nothing wrong with trying to inform buyers on this topic.
BTW, do anyone of you know if NAV includes Bluetooth cell phone capabilities.
No Odyssey has no factory Bluetooth capability, at least not yet.
Here’s what I paid:
33,500 Odyssey
2,429 Taxes (7.25%)
1,200 HondaCare 8yr/100K/0 Warranty
288 DMV registration
45 Doc Fee
9 Tire Disposal Fee
37,470 Total
18,500 Trade In (2004 Honda Accord EX-L Auto, 18,200 miles, paid $23K in Sep 2003)
CarsDirect Price: $34,037
Edmunds TMV: $33,636
Dealer started at $34,645 on the Ody, $16,500 on the Accord, and $1,645 on the warranty.
See my post (#879) in the Extended Warranty board for more information about that deal.
It HELPS pay a bit of our massive overhead!
I know the price was great and all, but I have a signed dealer retail order for the above price with me.
I wanted to know if the dealer can really do that?
Do you know if there is any law/rule which protects the consumer in these cases?
Thanks :mad:
Anyone living in PA or a state anywhere near PA should consider calling the internet sales manager there. He is very eager to make his customers happy, and makes good on everything. Free delivery within 400 miles of Harrisburg. The gentleman who brought our van to our home said he's recently delivered to MD, VA, NC, OH, MI, CT, NY, NJ, RI....you name it. We received many offers from regional dealerships, and his was by FAR the best price we were offered.
Good luck to all, and thanks for all of the great information on this site.
Some observations I learned in the past few months reading these posts:
- Beware, a few of these posts are from dealers themselves
- Contact at least 3 dealers in your area (and other states if you have time)to get the dealers compete for your business. I contacted 7.
- My experience has been that dealers seem to meet your price near the end of the month. I thought this was a fallacy, but it has turned out to be true with my last two car purchases.
If the reward was no longer on the table, why would they.
Just buy the van, and start enjoying the best van on the road for your family.
(documents $189, tire fee 7.50 and NJ tax of 6% were extra). Had a similiar deal fall through with a different dealership but this place was very easy to deal with, got the car the day after it came off the truck!! Good Luck
Carmax has a 2005 EX w/ 8K miles in Dallas for 26K. Reading other posts it appears that I can get a 2006 for just slighly more. want to buy in the next few weeks to couple of months.
Thanks
My question though, what would change between a couple of weeks and a few months? Why not just get it now???
First of all I must commend the folks who post their experience and have made this a great forum for exchanging experiences and beating the sleazy car salesman. Please lets keep this going and get as low prices as possible. I have been reading this forum for over a year and I just bought a 2006 Honda Odyssey with EX-L and DVD and NAV, its payback time to post my experience to help others to get as good a deal as possible.
1. Price Paid: 32173 + fees = 35303
This is a unbelievable price to get in Bay Area with all the demand here, most will reduce 500 off the MSRP and best you could get is 33000 and odd. In my case I even found AT invoice with Automall Roseville but it wasn't a color I liked. I wanted redrock pearl and in my case I put a deposit for a pre negotiated price and it came after 5 weeks.
2. Dealership: Elk Grove Honda(near Sacramento)
3. Experience: Absolutely the best I have had in past 15yrs, no sleaze, no mysterious fees appearing all of a sudden.
4. Warranty: The business manager tried to sell me a warranty 7yr/80k for 1900 but I refused because I could get 796 at www.hondawarrantyinfo.com, in just one fax it was all done.
5. Accessories: I bought the following NOT from the dealer as they too expensive.
a. All Season Mats $150
b. Gold Emblem Kit $87
c. Cargo Mat $72
d. Splash Guard $70
e. Cargo Bin $109
This I foolishly bought with the dealership which you can get for $80. I bought these from another dealers Apple Valley Honda in Washington state, avoiding tax and also shipping.
I hope this helps, I will be reading this forum for the next few days and I will signing off until I buy the next Honda vehicle.
Cheers!
-Suresh
“Accessories: I bought the following NOT from the dealer as they too expensive.”
Where did you get the accessories? I’ve thought about getting the wood trim, thicker floor mats, wheel locks, and some kind of cargo cover/shelf.
I also wonder how much a set of new seats would cost. I think ivory seats would look nice with the Ocean Mist exterior. That would be worth about a thousand dollars to me.
OK, I got a quote on a 2006 Odyssey from the dealer closest to me in Miami, Florida. It looks like the ivory interior isn’t available with the ocean mist exterior, so this is the ocean mist with black. I’ll have to see one to be sure I like it, or I’ll see if I could get a set of seats in ivory for around $1,000.
“Clean” means that the quote isn’t complicated with side deals that may affect the dealer’s profit margin on this car, like trade-ins, high-markup accessories, etc. “Out-the-door” means that the destination, dealer service charge, and all other dealer charges are included. Here’s the breakdown:
35997.00
550.00 destination
589.00 dealer srvc
6.50 batt/tire fee fla.
20.00 doc fee
2229.75 tax ( dade county residents add $50.00)
2.00 lemonlaw (Fla)
115.00 tag transfer (New tag add $100.00)
39509.25 total
There are many internel dealers who sell Original Honda Accessories, like there is:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/odyint05.html
In my case I went thru ebay dealers, there are many who sell original honda accessories. I bought thru one Apple Valley Honda, they are honda dealership who sell with competitive price. I did query other ebay dealers, Apple Valley turned out to be the best, they in fact said if I buy the said accessories, the shipping is free, it worked well for me.
EX L
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MSRP 30,795
INVOICE 27,708
Edmunds TMV 29,769
Carsdirect.com 29,258
Actual Sales
28,290 Harrisbugr PA - Faulker Honda
28,253 San Diego - Pacific Honda
28,233 DC
27,900 Phoenix - Tempe Honda
27,706 Atlanta - Ed Voyles Honda
27,703 LA - Airport Marina
27,600 CA - Spreen Honda in Loma Linda California
27,500 Chicago - Continantal LaGrange
27,450 Chicago - Lisle
27,450 VA/MD/DC Area
26,102 Dallas - Lute Riley Honda
EX L RES
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MSRP 32,395
INVOICE 29,146
Edmunds TMV 31,290
Carsdirect.com 30,696
Actual Sales
29,400 Harrisbugr PA - Faulker Honda
EX L RES & NAV
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MSRP 34,595
INVOICE 31,123
Edmunds TMV 33,370
Carsdirect.com 33,473
Actual Sales
32,073 Atlanta
32,029 NJ - FREE All weather floor mats
31,173 Cleaveland OH - Mike Pruitt Honda
31,120 Ohio - Honda of Mentor
31,037 Chicago - Crystal Lake Honda
30,729 Chicago - Crystal Lake Honda
29,478 Buford, GA - Honda of Buford, GA
Anyone have prices for purchaces made in Indianapolis/Cincinati/Louisville.
How do I make a choice to buy between a EX-L or a EX-L RES & NAV.
Some more research I did and the prices in brakets are the differences between the models.
EX L EXL-RES&NAV Difference
MSRP 30,795 34,595 (3800)
INVOICE 27,708 31,123 (3415)
Edmunds TMV 29,769 33,370 (3601)
Carsdirect.com 29,258 33,473 (4215)
Does it really make sence to spend $3,601(as per edmunds TMV) for adding RES & NAV to a EX-L
Any inputs are appreciated.
The carsdirect price I got just now for an EX-L with RES and NAV is $31,973, btw.
Anyway, I think the $3,601 additional cost for the RES and NAV is worth it when it is manufacture installed. Otherwise, your other option would be to do an aftermarket DVD ($800) and a Nav system ($1000). The only thing that would be built-in would be the DVD while the NAV will be mounted on top of the dash, which to me is ugly.
Long story short, I held my nose and....can unequivocally state that the package is an absolute bargain IF you can use the features. And this from one who has always readily (and easily) lived by maps!
since i didn't need all the extras, i bought a 06 lx for $24k, sales tax not included, the lx has all the amenities we wanted, also in my opinion a lot of the items on the higher end models like power sliding doors, VCM, etc. might eventually break resulting in more repair costs...sometimes simpler is better in the long run...
Any opinions on this???
Century Honda has the best buying experience, though I've only been able to make a deal there one time... but, it is where I take all of my Hondas for service..
Another member here swears by Swope Honda in Louisville.. Of course..others just swear at them...
Hope that helps..
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I did call Crystal Lake as well and got an honest quote for $30,873 + $50 doc fees and out of state temp. tags. I may go for that deal and ship back to Virginia. Still save about $1500 from local dealerships and $800 from Ohio dealerships.