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House06, I paid $20,770 for mine and it has the $170 Pearl White Paint option so your price is an excellent one. At that price, the hold-back and advertsing dollars are already removed so there's no more room for them to budge unless they are willing to take a financial hit to meet a volume objective where they get a retro bonus back from Hyundai.
If House06 is getting the ultimate package, then indeed $20,500 is a good price. Who is the dealer?
And I repeat, I doubt if this price will hold once you sit down in the cubicle of hell.
The only surprise was a $139 anti-theft fee for etching unique ID's (not the VIN#) onto all 4 windows. Since I wasn't expecting it, they dropped it down to $105 (so they could make a $5 profit on it). We were very happy with the service up to that point so we just didn't haggle about it.
Maybe I could have gotten a better price if I waited or visited other dealerships, but I was content with paying $500 below invoice ($1500 if you include the rebate).
Our dealership was Poway Hyundai and they were great!
The "surprise" etching fee was done without you knowing about it. That is a dealer scam. It costs the dealer about $20 to etch.
This would have been a deal killer for me. I would have challenged the dealer to remove the $105 fee or cancel. I guess that's because I'm an old ornery man and I've been burned too many times.
Now, hopefully your new car won't experience the mechanical problems that have been listed in this forum.
Once again, good luck.
Sal Liggieri
To look on the bright side, you did get something for that $105 add on. And it accounts for only 0.005 of the total purchase price. I could think far worse scenerios the dealer could have scammed you.
Oh, and congratulations on your purchase!
What a sad state of affairs. We as car buyers have to be grateful that these thieving car dealers only ripped us off for $105, it could have been worse.
That is the same accepting mentality in America that allows all the stealing and corruption such as Enron, Global Crossing, World Com, crooked politicians and on and on.
And our response...It's all okay...it could have been worse.
Ugly, Ugly, Ugly!
House06...welcome to the club!
I continue to repeat the dealers manifesto: Buyer, you don't buy a car, I sell you a car and always at my price.
You can't beat the gambling casino in the long run and you can't beat the car dealer in the short run. It's always a lose, lose situation.
We have all been suckered.
Sal Liggieri
I know we try to divulge as much info as we can in this forum, so that others can get the best possible deal. But there are just so many factors to take into account that not everyone will get the same deal as the one who got the very best deal. You have to think about how long the car's been in the lot, how much it's already been driven, the options, colors, accessories, the time of the month, month of the year, availability, demand, manufacturer incentives, etc, etc... I paid almost $1,000 more for my car because I wanted black interior and I didn't want the car with almost 400 miles already tacked on and was sitting in the lot for a couple months. Do I feel "suckered"? Not the least bit.
In house's situation: (A) rebates are $500 less then they were a month ago for the LTDs, (B) he got the brand new XM model which naturally costs more than the standard LTD of a month ago and (C) he must've gotten the steering wheel controls where you can actually change stations/tracks (and if so, I'm jealous!).
It's the mentality thing. Why is it okay for a dealer to scam you, stick his hand in your pocket, steal your money, then sing God Bless America.
I'll never understand.
I called customer service of Hyundai and they said this car was in production. But in my search on the East Coast the Steel Gray was available but only with the Gray Interior.
No dealer I contacted had the black interior on any Sonata other than the Platinum series but that only comes in silver.
Ideally, if one could wait, all the problems should be resolved in the 2008 models which will also have the foldable side view mirrors.
If the dealer has the car you want, he can tell you the build date from the invoice. If you see the car, the build date is on a label at the bottom of the door post on the driver's side.
I'd suggest holding out until the 2008s -- that is, if you can. Here is a pic of what it might look like. A definate improvement, IMO. I haven't heard anything about an exterior update, though.
And if you call every dealer in your area you probably won't find it. You can also check Fitzmall, they have an extensive inventory of Hyundai's, but I don't think you will find the colors there either.
The platinum only comes in silver/black I believe and it is in short supply.
If you want the steel gray, you will have to accept the gray interior which in my opinion is not too attractive and it gets and shows the dirt too easily.
I set out to buy the Sonata in 2006 but I had plenty of dealer hassles. I tried for the 2007, then all the mechanical problems showed up. Now, I'm thinking of waiting for the 2008-I can wait.
Yankee 23, you had to settle for a color other than the steel gray you wanted. Which leads me to believe that the Sonata is not selling to well so that their production has been curtailed. Why else wouldn't they have the color you wanted.
Odd that you can't get a straight answer from anyone involved with selling Hyundai's. My experience with dealers was that they can get the car but you have to put down a deposit. Screw them-the deposit effectively takes you out of the loop. And if this color combination is not available at any dealer, where would they get the car?
Buyer beware, you have to be informed or they will gobble you up.
Now you have to go through the baptism. Based on the forum, some of the members paid $20500-$20700 which includes the rebate for this car. Apparently you bought the car so post your cost so that we can compare prices.
I'm in no hurry...but would be interested in what you paid for yours.
Because we are dealing with one of America's great institutions...The Automobile Dealer. An institution based on the principles of trust, respect, concern for the consumer, honest negotiations, and fair deals.
All in keeping with the great American traditions as founded by our forefathers. Ah yes, they must be chuckling at what we have accomplished: Enron, Global Crossing, Tyco, Worldcom and on and on in perpetuity, and the most noble of them all...the American Car Dealer.
Yes, we certainly have a lot to be proud of.
It would help the forum if you took the time to discuss the deal you made, we can all learn from this.
Sal Liggieri
So I drove to a smaller towns about 60 miles away to buy my 2006 Hyundai. He was a new dealer for Hyundai. His principal sales were for GMC trucks and Cadillac cars. He had lost the Oldsmobile portion of his dealership when General Motors terminated this brand. So he needed a lower-cost automobile to sell.
But I must say, as many others have said on this form, it is up to the individual doing the purchasing to follow the old maxim, "Buyer beware!" I had my price established before I ever drove to this outlying town. I bargain by telephone and e-mail with the sales manager. I told them that I did not care what kind of fees they added on the final bill as long as the price we agreed to was the total price that I would write a check for.
I do agree with you though that the buying public should not feel like they're going to have to enter a "mud wrestling contest" every time they go to purchase a new vehicle. The cars today cost a lot of money, and you don't feel like you should have to give any of your hard earned money away just because some slick salesman or sales manager deems that you should do so. Unfortunately that seems to be the name of the game far too often.
Sites like Edmunds and this form, make this type of an adventure more palatable.
1. Can we just roll over the difference between what you owe on the Mustang and what you will pay for the Sonata? My answer: absolutely not.
2. Would you consider 84 months? My answer: no way.
3. How about a used 2006 with 10,000 miles on it? My answer: nope, I only want the car I test drove.
4. Ok sir, here are your keys to the Mustang back, that was the best we could do.
I didn't see the manager during the deal. I didn't get the famed salesman switch. And in the end, I didn't get the deal, and I was in mild disbelief as I was walking toward the exit. Anyways. What do you all think about what happened? Was I being too unrealistic with my demands? Should I consider another dealer? Any help would be appreciated.
2. What does your Mustang book for? What are others in your area selling for?
3. Were you upside down when you bought the Mustang? If so, you have to get to an equity position before you trade or you are just building a snowman.
4. Try another dealer if that is an option.
5. The dealer may not have enough room to absorb the difference in what you owe and what the car is actually worth to them. They base their appraisals on what they can buy the car for at an auction or such.
You are lucky they gave you back your keys. The local Hyundai dealer here would have put you in the car and called you back in two weeks. They would then tell you they can't do the deal unless you go to 84 months or come up with some money down.
BTW I am looking into getting a 2007 Sonata Limited with Ultimate Package.
Now my questions are :
1) I m not really good at haggling - I've read from the posts that some guys have bought it between $22000 and $23500 OTD - but this being the bay area, I'd only settle below the $23500 OTD price. HOWEVER, I am porlly going with the DOWN-PAYMENT option for now and not cash so will the OTD price of $23500 still be feasible?
2) how does the Sonata Limited solar glass work? I was hoping for tinted glass windows on the passenger side and rear passenger windows but I was told that they have a solar glass that would "function" as a tinted window? I thinking "Transition lenses" for auto windows here - is that a correct analogy?
3) this last part is more of curiosity than a necessity - they say the "later 2007 models" will come out with a station/track selector on the steering wheel. I assume any Sonata Limited's that are manufactured on or after Dec 2006 will start sporting this feature?
Thanks for your time in the reply.
Wanted to thank many of the posters around the Sonata board and Hyundai boards in general. I originally started out looking for a Civic but discovered the Sonata through here and am very happy I did as I paid less money for more car.
With all the input here, I made a great deal at the end of December for a GLS 4-cylinder automatic w/premium package.
Price: $16,600
Tax: Around $1430 or so
Doc fee $45
DMV $130
Total out the door price: $18,237
It was a completely smooth, no-haggle deal brokered via the Internet and there were no surprises when I entered the dealership. The bad news is, the dealership -- Hyundai of Manhattan -- has now switched to Nissan from what I understand, but if you know anyone looking for a Nissan, be sure to send them over there. They were great.
Thanks again. Hopefully I won't see you too often in the problems and solutions thread ...
I love the car. It's smooth and quiet and has great pick-up, even as a four-cylinder.