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It is NOW official that it WILL go on sale in September, 2005.
GM NEVER OFFICIALLY announced when the 2006 Pontiac Solstice would go on sale before last week.
They simply projected "mid 05."
The 2006 Toyota MR2 won't be sold here. One less competitor which should have used the Toyota Celica GT-S's 180 hp I-4, but then again, Toyota isn't really into sports cars/racing/performance considering their size.
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Curious tho, the prices say "after incentives". Does this mean that they plan to discount the things from the git-go ? Strange they would do that. I have a load of GM card credits built up so that plus any incentives could add up to a deal to good to be true. We'll see, we'll see.
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Since GM Card earnings are a corporate wide program, I would expect they would be available on the car. Although there will be some sort of limit on the newer cards.
- benefits of sheet hydroforming
- 2.4 liter 177 hp I-4
- great styling which is the result of a few car enthusiasts working on it rather than a whole bunch of people
- driver-oriented interior
- factory-backed in Grand-Am Cup racing
- coupe coming along to boost sales
- one competitor the new Mazda MX-5 which is what the 1999 Miata should have looked like but it still isn't exciting as the Solstice.
"The new Solstice is the best-looking affordable GM car since the 1969 Camaro."
I really hope designs as cool as the Solstice and new Saturn Sky come from GM.
I still have both of those plates in my desk drawer, as the one on the passanger side fell off the next day as well. Just the beginning of a long list of stuff that fell off or broke.
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Through the wonders of the Internet I am now able to learn that GM was busy pulling the same stuff they are pulling now but that was way back in 1969! And they now all want great medical insurance-even after retirement? Forget it! What kind of a company do you think GM is? Giving? Haa!
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I think this thread needs to return more to the 2006 Pontiac Solstice rather than just GM this and that. There are other threads about GM today.
The Solstice just isn't like other GM products.
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I think it looks awesome.
That's when things should really start heating up.
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What do you guys think of the Solstice's curves behind the driver's head?
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I have never been a fan of singe exhaust, especially on good looking cars, does anyone know if they will put another pipe over there?
Thanks.
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1, Cost of CAD software + support + design time vs. Napkin sketches.
2. Levels of driving performance. Component technology has progressed so much that on average a modern car drives better than the large majority of past vehicles; producing "useable higher performance" is more difficult than just "keeping it simple".
3. Regulations - including the cost of internatinal certification - are so much more complex than in the 50s and 60s, and the cost to meet them is much higher. think of the required content - air bags, ignition immobilizers, crumple zones, collapsible steering columns, ...
4. Basic technology ( materials and processes ) is so much more advanced, that a car using truly basic technology would feel like a relic.
believer
To answer your point #4 - I didn't say they should use basic technology. What I am saying is that today's cars are loaded with expensive extra features that we could do without on a sports car. Do we realy need remote keyless entry and power windows? Would you be willing to put the top up or down manually to save a few thousand dollars? And does the top really have to be hidden away under a panel?
The whole point of what I'm asking is - would you folks out there buy a sports car without all the extra features if you could get it at a much more reasonable price? Or are we so used to these features that we can't do without them?
As to the statement that the Chinese can't do it, well don't be too sure about that either. I have a family member that works for Delphi and is a liasion to China. They have MANY rabbits to pull out of their hat that will knock a lot of the competetion on their collective butts ! GM should be afraid. Very afraid.
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the Razor offers the necessities for driving, nothing more. No power windows or mirrors, no radio or leather power seats, no frills whatsoever. Dodge Razor offers its two occupants lightweight, competition-style seats, four-point racing harnesses, storage behind their seats and the pure joy of driving.
and it will probably never be built
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have you ever seen a movie with a mercedes? when they close the door, it sounds like a train wreck. this is because sound engineers have decided what a "door slam" should sound like based on, oh I don't know, 1965 fords, and they just use that same sound idea over and over and over.
Pontiac likely had no input into the sound design used for the show, as this kind of stuff is usually added after execs approve the cut.
PS - this is the first american car I've considered for years. even if it isn't perfect, at 25k, would still be a great "fun" car to take out on weekends and sunny summer days. :shades:
You may remember a similiar think went on when the Miata came out as well.
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With the state of affairs of GM....I think it would be extremely risky for them to attempt to sell this car for a adjusted market value..sure there are those with deep pockets..who want to be the first on the block....and I bet some dealers will do it......this one didnt even want a deposit.....the rep stated..."you are on my list..I expect some to fall off because they simply dont want to wait for the car...and is bargaining to get a another 10-15 in in Nov as well, when I get them in I will start calling my list...explaining the price, options and color....and ask do you want it..if not..I move down my list".....we will see....I will sit patient
The Fiero was a "parts bin exercise" using what they had on hand that could be put together with minimum R&D. Of course by today's standards they did not have much to work with initially. Clunky, four banger engine out of the X bodies, modified X drive trains and suspensions too. The Solstice will be a much better thought out piece with pretty good mechanicals but no less a parts binner too, but a better one. Actually the Fiero was pretty well sorted out by 1987 and was not too bad for the times. Of course by that time GM had lost interest due to lagging sales and much bad press so they canned it. I don't think the Solstice will suffer the same fate. It'll be around for awhile. After all the hype and dust settles you'll be able to buy one with a hefty incentive just like all the rest of the iron GM rolls out.
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