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This is not an Odyssey problem, but this happened in an Odyssey:). I forgot an unopened coke can in the cupholder which got blasted off because of freezing temperature, spilling on the radio, dashboard and on the roof near the reading lamps. Recommendations for detailing products will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-s
You should have the dealer check aiming, and maybe even ask them to raise them a tad over the nominal spec to improve distance.
Higher wattage bulbs may be too much for the plastic housing, or the wiring harness / relays to handle. Some report that different brands may improve the situation by virtue of a different filament winding or position within the glass envelop. A small positional change with relationship to the reflector can have a big effect on spread pattern. For a few bucks it might be worth a try.
Steve
http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/bulbs/bulb_types/bulb_types.html
Steve
* Driver's side door won't open (pass. side is fine).
* When the power door switch is on, the warning beep sounds as if the door is open
I tried your steps from post 2648, but no dice (I did notice that the clock did NOT go off with the Power Door fuse removed). I also tried removing both Auto-Close fuses. Still nothing.
BTW, this problem just started all of a sudden. Working fine, then it went out.
One more thing (and I mention this only because it seems some others were affected by this) -- it is very cold in Raleigh today, when the problem started (15 w/ wind chill below 0 -- hey, that's cold for us!).
Any additional thoughts on what this might be?
Thanks so much for your help.
Steve, Host
The fuse is labelled "Clock Backup".
I removed it, replaced it after 30 seconds, and the door worked fine.
Thanks again.
You wouldn't happen to be a wannabe canuck would you? Honourary designations can be arranged...eh...
Steve, Host
Let me know ASAP, my e-mail is emgarcia69@hotmail.com. Need help with this issue
Same as yours, warning lights lit up like a Xmas tree while driving a couple of times.
Steve, Host
As if on cue, our CEL came on and the dealer says it is the EGR valve AND the catalytic converter. About $1,000 to fix both. We already had the EGR valve replaced in 06/2001, at around 40K miles. (yes, there was a TSB at the time but our dealer claimed ignorance so I had to recover my $220 from Honda after the fact). So it appears to me that this is a recurring problem.
I printed somebodys instructions on clearing the port by removing the manifold and spraying cleaner in. I don't really want to do this since I feel it should not be necessary - but I guess I'm resigning myself to the fact that Honda dropped the ball on this portion of the engine design. Somewhere else there is reference to reaming it out with a drill, but I have not found the specific reference.
I have appealed to American Honda about covering the repairs under warranty, they promised to call "in 3 to 5 business days". Performance and mileage seem OK, but my wife drives the van the most so maybe I just haven't noticed. The dealer refuses to cover it since it is over the 80,000 miles, I've since found someone else here in town (recommended by more than one friend) that I may check with to see if they could do the work for less.
Is it considered bad form to buy parts over the internet and pay someone else to install them?
I had my doubts, since I had just put in a new one, so I investigated further. It turns out that the real problem was that the passage from the EGR valve to the intake was clogged - this is evidently quite common for this particular car due to the narrowness of the passage and the crap that is often in the exhaust gases which builds up easily.
The upshot was that all I needed to do was spend some time cleaning out the passage - I used a straightened coat hanger and a stiff pipe cleaner to do it - no new EGR valve was required at all as verified by the fact that the CEL and EGR valve failure code didn't show up again after cleaning the passage and clearing the code from the PCM. So, I went from a couple hundred dollar repair to a zero dollar, easy, do it your self repair. To be fair, the assumption made by the pro mechanic, I believe, was that if the passage was clogged, so too would the EGR valve itself be clogged. He was incorrect primarily due to the fact that the passages in the EGR valve were much larger than the passage from the valve to the intake. A bit of a poor design.
Perhaps your situation is similar? Hard to tell without more details, cars being so complicated these days.
Reminds me of the time I fixed both the cruise control and the HVAC controls on that same car with a free piece of vacuum hose. An unscrupulous repair shop could have taken me for hundreds of dollars on that one.
Thanks
Marty
I'll try and figure this out. Our last EGR valve replacement was at approx 40,000 miles. It might just be a clog like you said.
My plan for the moment is
1) wait and see if Honda will cover the repairs, since I am 1,000 miles over the 80,000 mile repair warranty.
2) if they will not, I'll pull it apart and look for a clogged port. I'll also take it to an exhaust shop or other local mechanic (I have received a few recommendations) to have the catalytic converter checked out.
Thanks for the advice!
Or maybe it's often the solution, but practically never the asnwer. You pick.
to the left too.I plan to have mine aligned
at first oil change
Maybe Auburn or some of the regulars who've been here for a long time can shed more light on the subject, or possibly refer to a TSB? Anyway, sounds like maybe the car shippers are being a bit too zealous again and the problem is resurfacing on the '03s.
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I can hear whistle when I speed up ( for example from 0 increased to 30Mile/h, sounds like a police car several bolcks behind you .And it will disappear after I keep the same speed.
2. changed the battery but the dealer could not find the password to reprogram my Audio/CD/Tape system.
3. Clock could not seen in the dark
1) road noise - when driving, every semi-major bump causes the van to shudder and is extremely loud. It almost sounds like the struts/shocks are bad. I'm used to driving a sedan. Is this normal?
2) Clunking/cracking sounds - when backing up, I've noticed a clunking sound in the rear. I've emptied the back of all cargo to no avail. Also, recently the van makes a cracking sound when turning slowly.
3) The DVD picture is less than clear - lines are visible in the picture regardless of the dvd being viewed.
Thanks in advance for any help.
My dealer sold me $1600/2year power train warranty for the 2000 ODY Ex. I just want to cancele it. Any comments are heighly appreciated.
Thanks for your help
You can cancel your extended warranty at any time. The dealer may pro-rate your refund depending on when you cancel, and if you are financing the warranty through a car loan, you won't get cash back, but your loan terms will be adjusted.
Or so I understand....
Steve, Host
While I was doing the walk around prior to acceptance of my silver '03 Ex/LNavi on Saturday I noticed some dirt under the color coat right next to the passenger side door handle. I look closer and there's more problems all around there and additional issues on other panels. The salesman tells me no problem, they will take care of it and if it takes longer than a day, they will supply the rental. The parts man says...oh, you need approval of a rental to the salesman. Make an appointment they say. Foolish me, I drive off with the car. Yesterday I call them to let them know I am coming in. After 9 calls, surprise, no rental. I talk to the sales manager and he tells me they will take me home. Come in at 9 so that he can take care of me he tells me. I can live with that. I take the day off from work. I go in today and after an hour waiting for my ride, no ride home. Now they tell me to bring it in sometime next week. Whenever its best for me. I ask them to set a date, they can't, phone calls have to be made. Well, I can wait for a phone call. No, its always done with voice mail. Not even a try. So it turns out they will let me know when its best for me. The internet manager ignored my voicemessages and pages yesterday. One salesman told me that he was looking at him and after he took down my phone number, transfered me to the parts dept. He said that he was sorry for not returning my calls when I visited his office and turns into my best buddy.
My question is should I just forget about it? The car seems to fill our needs otherwise. They are talking about buffing it out. I could live with that too. The only problem is that its under the color coat, more than just a speck and if they cut the clear, that's it isn't it? Will I have to live with sags, orange peel and fisheyes? Should I just go around and open the door really quickly so that people can't see the defect? Maybe a sticker? I really am at a loss.
Item #3 - Others have reported the clock light out. IIRC, it does require some disassembly to get to, or an hour or so labor at your friendly dealer. Maybe someone has details of the procedure???
Steve
Item #2 - you may be hearing the rear disk brake carrier/caliper/pad free play. It makes a 'clunk' from each wheel (sometimes a second or so apart) each time you transition from foward to reverse and back again. I find it strange, but it is normal as per a service dept bulletin I was shown.
Steve
I wrote to American Honda on 8 January 2003, asking for their assistance with the expense of replacing my transmission. I received a call on 28 January from a young man named “Jared,” who explained that, because my Odyssey had almost 113,000 miles on it, American Honda would be unable to help me.
I received Honda’s letter about extending the warranty on the transmission from 36,000 to 100,000 miles in December 2002. As I explained to Jared and stated in my letter to Honda, I started experiencing the problems Honda’s letter described in the early fall of 2002, when my vehicle had fewer than 100,000 miles. Had I known about the warranty extension, I would have taken my car to Honda for warranty repair at that time.
After receiving the letter about the known problem with the transmission, I took the vehicle to the service department at the closest Honda dealer.
When I returned for the vehicle at 4:00 PM, my service writer said that he had let the car cool outdoors (it was a snowy day) from 8:00 AM, when I dropped it off, until 1:00 PM, but that no transmission problem had manifested itself during his test drive.
I got into the vehicle to drive home, and, as usual, the engine revved between gears and the transmission slammed into gear. I thought of driving back to the service department to show the service writer the indications, but I decided the transmission would have warmed by then and there would be nothing to see.
My plan when I bought my Odyssey in February 2000 was to drive it until the odometer reached 200,000 miles and then trade it for a 2005 Odyssey. I am unhappy that I am unable to do that. I am bitterly disappointed that American Honda abandoned me, even though my problem arose within the extended warranty period.
When three weeks had passed since I first wrote to Honda, I was beginning to think that I would receive no reply. By the time I heard from Jared, in desperation I had gotten rid of the vehicle.
The problem with the Odyssey’s transmission is widely known. In my estimation, I received $4000 - $5000 less for my car than it would have been worth with a reliable transmission. The Honda dealer who sold it to me new offered me $2600 less than a Toyota dealer paid me for it!
The 2004 Toyota Sienna is due out in March 2003. Before Jared’s call, my plan was to wait until then, compare the new Sienna to the Odyssey and buy the winner. Now that I have received Jared’s call and heard Honda’s decision, I would have great difficulty choosing the Odyssey again.
So now I own a Honda instead of another Toyota. But realistically, I don't expect to be treated any better if the same were to occur. Very sad!
Steve
Steve,
If misery loves company, I guess your comments did make me feel better. Thanks.
Even more therapeutic was the opportunity to make Honda's actions (or, inactions) public.
Jerry
If there's a borderline situation (like just out of warranty), chances are the dealer is going to try to protect its bottomline and whack yours.
Steve, Host
An interesting aside - California told me that while they fundamentally agreed with me, they would not override the NY/NJ district office. They were a cost center, and the regional mgr had the last word on this stuff.
I went thru something similar years earlier. I had a Datsun with sloppy drive shaft u-joints. They clunked and I complained. Same treatment - it isn't broken, just making noise. But they lasted 170k miles, so I have to accept that Datsun knew what they were talking about when they dug in their heals. My mental pain would have been eased, but at an expense they did not want to bear.
Steve
Summary: Our 99 LX had the CEL come on at 81,000 miles. We took it to our dealer and (of course) it was the EGR valve AND the catalytic converter, both had to be replaced and we were quoted almost $1,000.
We already had the EGR valve changed in June, 2001, at approx 41,000 miles. At that time the dealer denied it being under warranty (in spite of the TSB from almost a year earlier) and we paid full price. This was later refunded to me by American Honda with their apologies, saying most certainly my van was covered under the extended warranty.
When I was told it had to be done AGAIN, and told it was not under warranty (they admitted to knowing about the extended warranty this time, but said I was 1,000 miles over and there was nothing they could do), I immediately called Honda and asked for help. They took my information and said it would take 3-5 business days to get a decision.
Apparently by Monday (the next business day) they decided it was covered, but due to playing phone tag I didn't find out until last night and didn't confirm it with the dealer until today.
Today the service manager (acting like he was doing me a favor) said "And we'll also refund the $60 diagnostic fee!"
bottom line: We're getting the car fixed, the only cost was a few minutes on the phone and loaning them our $60 so we could have our van back (they don't have the parts in stock anyway). I am almost willing to bet money that at 120,000 miles I will have to get another EGR valve. Maybe we'll have the van paid off by then :-)
Marty
for 1000 off sticker at 26360 including destination but before taxes and title. Doc fees were only 38 dollars, a dollar for Indiana tire tax. No other crazy garbage fees. The van was ordered by someone else who cancelled. The van had arrived at the Dealer lot just the day before (12 miles on Odo). There was very little haggling, best dealer experience ever for me. The salesman was Ira Mercurio at HondaWest in Indy, threw in cargo tray which I would rec to anybody. I really appreciate the Honda way of equiping the trims (Dx, Lx, Ex etc). This leaves very little to haggle over and so you don't waste your time. I think I will be a Honda fan for a long time. One issue though; when the car is first started in the morning in the cold and than shifted into reverse there is a thud with which the transmission shifts into gear just a second after the shift lever is placed in reverse. This does not happen once the car is warm later in the day. Is this normal behaviour for the Odyssey transmission or should I have it inspected. Any thoughts ?? Thanks.
What is the law in California about bringing in out of state vehicles? I read something like you cannot register or bring any vehicle under two years old because of CA emissions? Can anyone elaborate on this?
Thanks,
taste
Vehicle Registration and Title Information
Any new car must be California certified to "import" it there, and most cars sold in North America are.
Steve, Host