Hi I have the same exact problem on my 2000 EX it just happened today I checked everything and cant find a problem, my drivers side door is fine. sliding door light is also on. please let me know if you find the problem and I'll do the same!!
Has anyone noticed unusual transmission noise/ vibration on the 2005EX? It appears when holding a constant speed in the 45 to 54 MPH range - even on fairly level roads. At first, I thought it was a shift point problem - but Honda Service techs disagreed saying this was normal. As another person ( MACAKAWA ) pointed out - it does happen around 1400 - 1800 rpm. I think in belief that the engine is lugging and on the verge of a shift point. But this is over a 9 - 10 MPH range while holding a constant speed on fairly level roads. Have driven 3 new vehicles and each has the same sound ( drone , groan ) and steering wheel vibration. Please help.
I had similar problems before. I almost brought it back to the dealer , but I hit the Rear Power button on the radio by accident and it turned the screen on. You should see the word "REAR" in the radio LCD screen. That buttons controls the DVD player and remote. I haven't figure out what I did that turns it off when I turn off the ignition on my car. I tried to recreate it, but it doesn't seem to be consistent. I hope that solves your problem.
From my limited understanding of OBDII, there are two oxygen sensors, one before the front cat, one behind it. The front one does most of the work in feeding back to the ECU for adjusting the injector duration to maintain stoichiometry (a slightly lean air / fuel mix). I have not found much information that indicates that the rear sensor does anything more than monitor and report on how well the cat is doing with final combustion of the gases it is given. So the question is whether you really have a cat problem, or an instrumentation problem (bad sensor, bad wire between sensor and ECU, or an ECU that cannot properly interpret the data it is fed from the two sensors). That still leaves a lot of possibilities.... I would start by checking the integrity of the wire and connection at the rear sensor.
I have the smae issue..both back doors rattle...I noticed it more when the weather was colder (ohio)..dealer said that it only rattles on rough terrain..Ok on highway? so happens it rattles on my streed every day...and my local roadwroks crew don't widh to resurface my street anytime soon? In addition the DVD/Navigation locks up all the time?
same issue and the dealer thinks it is OK on smooth roads...thinks it is OK to rattle on less smooth terrain...I am still pursueing the dealer for a remedy?
I've been able to find the dash rattles, also for my case the squeaks from the header around the sunroof. The fix is simply loose nuts bolts and screws... It's a matter of pinpointing where they come from. Honda it seems is slacking big time on quality assurance, the vehicle is engineered very well, the built quality is lacking. The door rattles I have not had a chance yet to figure it out, although I will.
I have had air buffeting noise i other cars but NEVER NEVER rthis bad that it causes painful ear aching. This bad of a condition is totally unacceptable and dangerous.
SIMPLY PUT - HONDA SCREWED UP!. They should have retained the rear quarter fold out vents to relieve air pressure. I am sure that is why the Sienna still has them.
I posted this message on April 13 on the Odyssey 2005+ board:
3473 of 3535 Open Window Air Buffeting 05 Ody Ex by eman Apr 13, 2005 (12:51 am) Bookmark | Reply
Well, it was bound to happen when warm weather comes!
I had complained previously that without the tilt-out rear quarter vents to relieve air pressure the side windows when open would create ear splitting buffeting noise.
The other day, nice 73 degrees, I opened the sunroof, my son (who is perpetually hot)was in the second row with his window down half way.
All seemed well to me in the drivers seat until I looked in the mirror and was shocked to see the 5 year old neighbor kid in the third row in agony with both ears pressed shut with his hands. I immediately recognized the problem an closed the second row window!
What surprised me is that I did not hear the buffeting myself. My (always hot) son and I always have this batle when he tries to open the side windows without balancing of the buffetint with other open windows
Parents beware, the buffeting can be painful to the ear drums!!!!
Honda, you realy screwed up on this one. :mad: :mad:
I am also having the same problem with my 2003 Odyssey. I have under 50k miles and have had all my servicing done on my lease. I too have taken my car in for the service recall over six months ago and was told that a liquid was added to the transmission, and my car was fine. Today the vans transmission has all of a sudden started jerking and you can feel the gears dropping. If you know of any other similar case please let me know! I have to speak with the dealership tomorrow and don't really want to be responsible for a manufacturer defect that really should have a life longer than two years.
dsrtrat2: Thank you so much for the very helpful info. Fill plug is not covered by any retrofit yet..but we'll see.. have an appt at the dealer next Monday for several issues...
Following up to post 4510, Honda replaced the transmission on our 2000 EX, with 115k miles, for free. We have been good customers, having our Hondas (this is our 3rd) serviced at the dealer. Nevertheless I am still surprised and thrilled that they gave us full parts and labor on the replacement. The dealer had originally quoted us $5,200 for the job. We are satisfied customers.
Although lots of folks are dead set against dealer service, you can see how loyal customers are treated. The dealership went to bat for you and used up a favor with regional/corporate for a good customer.
Take the time to write a letter to the owner of the dealership letting them know how happy you are. That'll go a long way as well with the service staff.
Disclosure - I'm not affiliated with any dealership but have had similar expriences with my dealership.
I recently bought a 2002 EX-L with about 65k miles. I am experiencing something very similar. At higher speeds 60 mph and greater, we hear a high pitched noise. On a trip this sound can be irritating. My wife took it to the dealer today, and they told her it was the transmission and there was nothing they could do about it. They indicated that they could install a new transmission and it could be worse. They led hear to beleive that this is common with the Odessey. I find that hard to beleive.
pisciotta, I was unable to find a bad fuse relating to this door. The fact that the switch seems to be sticking, and it's 'clicks' are erratic leads me to believe that it's the culprit. I plan to go after this switch, bench test it, and likely replace it. I'll document it w/pictures & note the steps to remove/replace it. I'll update this post with the information, including part number, cost and whether it was a success or not. J.P.
Since I decided to try to rectify the inoperable power door myself, I started the troubleshooting process today. As I mentioned in my earlier post, the small manual switch located at the rear of the track that is activated by the exterior and interior handles when the door is in the open position, was sticking (the small plastic arm wasn’t returning as it should). I figured that as the culprit. After removing the switch, I found that it is serviceable (a micro switch within a Honda-specific housing). The switch tested to be fine, and I lubricated the pivot for the arm, and eliminated the sticking problem. Although the sticking switch may have contributed to the problem, it wasn’t the reason that the door was inoperable. After speaking to the service manager at the Honda dealership, I learned much more about these doors.....my problem in particular. It turns out that a door (passenger door in my case) can get out of sequence as a result of a fault. Since these doors are very complex, there are numerous faults. In the event of a fault, the power will be shut off to the door with a fault, and the door(s) and must be reset. Aside from an inoperable door (no power), a fault is likely indicated by the “Sliding Door” light illuminated in the right gauge when the master switch is in the on position. This is regardless of whether the door is closed or not. When the master switch is in the off position, the light will not be illuminated. There is a method to read the fault that the faulty door is reporting, if a bad fuse has been ruled out. Sitting in the driver’s seat, with the ignition on, do the following: Turn off the master switch located above the left & right power door switches. Press and hold the power switch corresponding to the problem door. It doesn’t matter if you press “Open” or “Close”. While holding the the power switch, turn the master switch on. At this point the “Sliding Door” light will report a code indicated by flashing lights. I believe that all codes are preceded by two long flashes (about 1 second each), followed by a specific number of shorter, split second flashes. Count the number of these flashes, as the number will indicate the specific fault. If in your case, the number of short flashes after the initial two longer flashes is 5, then you have a grounding problem. I can help with that, as that was the fault in my case (code #25 - ground fault). The steps necessary to fix this are detailed, although not difficult. The entire job took me exactly 1 hour, and I have an operational door again. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined and want to take this on yourself, feel free to email me at thallarsen@msn.com and I’ll help you, as I documented the steps & took pictures. If the number of short flashes is other than 5, you’re still ahead of the game when it comes to chasing down your specific problem. Any Honda tech familiar with Odyssey power doors will be able to relate to you your specific code/fault based on the number of flashes. My experience has been that if you are knowledgeable of the problem, you can reduce the expense of ‘troubleshooting’ or ‘diagnostics’ that many shops like to charge. Oh, by the way, you can reset the doors. This will likely be a temporary fix, as the fault is likely the result of a problem that will likely recur after resetting the doors. And my experience is, the problem will rear it’s head at the worst time...when Mom is trying to load the kids in the car in a heavy rain. To reset the doors: Locate the fuse block on the passenger side. With the ignition off, pull fuse #13, labeled “clock” and “backup”. After a minute or so, re-seat/re-install the fuse. This will reset the doors.....however your problem will likely recur, as this will not fix what initially caused the fault in the first place.
In my previous post, I should clarify what I said:
Oh, by the way, you can reset the doors. If you simply reset the doors without repairing the specific problem, it will likely be a temporary fix, as the fault is likely the result of a problem that will probably recur after resetting the doors.
Excellent job of documenting a problem that will likely bite us all at sometime during our ownership! Out of curiosity, HondaCare seems to have some exclusions on covering door problems. I wonder if they would have fixed this? I am thinking of purchasing the shop manual set. Is door troubleshooting covered in this much detail?
Steve, I was fortunate to have found a service tech who was willing to take the time to share his knowledge with me (took a little name dropping....I know his boss & owner of the dealership). I'm not familiar with how detailed the shop manual is regarding this, and which specific manual addresses the issues. Any helpful service tech should be able to answer that question for you. I don't know that much about HondaCare, if they are a separate warranty provider from Honda America - and if they're guidelines of coverage are influenced and/or dictated by Honda America. My guess is that as Honda sees problems with these doors on aging vehicles, they'll likely step up to the plate when it comes to standing behind their product. They did that with the '99 - '02 transmissions. Although I'm rather disappointed with this vehicle, I must say that Honda does stand behind their product. Regarding the faulty transmissions in '99 - '02 Ody's, it didn't take the threat of a class action suit, or a federally-recognized safety issue for them to adjust the warranty coverage & make good on customers' claims. Maybe they'll do it with the sliding doors. Certainly more of a safety-related issue.
I have noticed that whenever I have the windows roll down on the sliding doors, even partically, the power sliding doors with the window rolled down does not open completely. The door only opens up around 70%. I was wondering why this would be case since the windows are rolled down into the door and should not affect the operation of the door. Am I the only person with this problem? I haven't read anyone mention this in problem in this forum.
I don't own an Odyssey but I would assume this is a safety interlock. You don't want anyone hanging their head out the window as the door is opening. Could act like a dull guillotine on a child's neck as the window opening slides approaches the back door frame!
I am not too impressed with my friend's 2003 Honda Odyssey LX. It has a stiff ride and emits much road noise, and I always seem to get terrible car-sick when riding in their car, and this generally does not happen to me. There are very many rattles in the van,too. Also they have had quite their share of problems. They only have 32,000 miles on their van, by the way.
Sounds right to me. Our van has a safety interlock on the drivers side sliding door for when the gas door is open. The door can not be opened at all from the inside or outside when pumping gas. A good safety feature I might add. :P
I have to agree - Honda did right by us when we showed up with our whining 2nd gear, and instead of trying the patch, exchanged trannies and gave us a rental for the week.
Honda Care is the warranty arm of Honda A, and I bought the 7yr/100k/$0 plan, in part because of reading this board. But thanks to this board, the price was under $900 from an out of state dealer, so it was win-win all around. To me, it is peace of mind. But I was a bit troubled by some of the exclusions dealing with the highly complex doors, as they are considered to be 'body parts', which are not covered. I have heard from some that this phrase can be applied somewhat liberally, depending on the dealer, to skate on covering electro/mechanical issues. Hopefully, that is more rumor than fact....
Didn't know I would get that much opposition in here. Just a couple of negative opinions on your precious Honda's, and some of you try to kill me over it. I didn't mean to say I hate Hondas or anything, I just didn't feel that there was too much that was extraordinary. Sorry if I offended anyone.
..time for everyone reel in their lines and check their bait.
It's a problem and solution topic for Odyssey owners, however, nothing says that non-owners can't chime in. It may seem impertinent to you, but you don't have to respond either.
Last week, while on NJTP near Jersey city, my rear pass. side tire suddenly lost pressure. There was a sudden loud roar for about 5 seconds and then I could feel it on the steering wheel. By the time I pulled over to the breakdown lane from 70mph, the tire was ruined, side wall was completely chewed up.
After replacing it with the donut spare, I took the next exit (#16) to Jersey city. I went to the nearest gas station, who called a supplier, but the size was not available (235-65-R16). Located the nearest Honda dealer with the help of the sales guy at an autoparts store. The dealer kept me for about an hour in the service area, only to come back and let me know that the tire needs replacing (like I didn't know!) and had to order it (cost $199). Said it would take 3 days! Only problem was that I had to make it to MA, so that was not an option. To cut the story short, I spent the next 2 hours trying different local tire shops and no one had the tire. All of them kept blaming honda for introducing yet another tire size with the 05 model.
By then it was close to 6PM and I was getting desperate. The incident had happened at 2 PM. Everyone discouraged me from making the rest of the trip to Mass on the donut spare. The last shop (Terry Tire) I went to was very helpful. Although they did not have the tire, seeing the two toddlers in the car, suggested I get a tire that was close to the original and complete my journey. That's what we did..and made it to Mass on a used 225-65-R16.
Once I got back, I ordered the tire from Tirerack ($75+shipping) and got it installed by a recommended installer in Berlin MA, who did the RoadForce balance using state of the art Hunter equipment, and the van drives better than new! I ordered an extra tire from Tirerack to carry with me on long trips, to avoid such an ordeal.
Fellow 05 non-touring odyssey readers, the regular radial tires were hard to come by as of this writing, even at the local dealership. Tirerack has some kind of overnight emergency service, but still would cost you a night's unplanned stay.
If I had PAX, would I be able to make the 250 mile drive home without all these hassles? I am not certain, but the installer in MA says that would not have been possible. Besides, finding a PAX tire and an installer that has the PAX equipment would be perhaps harder. Honda dealer on the way was of no help. Michelin has a hotline for PAX users, and may have helped in other ways such as trip interruption service, locating a replacement tire, installer, etc.
Two positive things from the experience: The vehicle handled well and stayed in control with a blown tire. The alloy wheel was undamaged, even though the tire was ruined. Nicely designed and very reassuring.
No, PAX is just so you don't have to swap out the spare on the side of the road. You can continue on a flat for 120 miles at 50mph. The Touring PAX tires are a unique size as well, and a quick check of tirerack.com shows nothing available. Good luck finding that at Terrys Tire at 6:00 on a Friday. The question I've not seen answered, is can you even mount a different size tire (as you did) on these PAX rims? It's always possible to throw some odd-ball tire on to get by if you have to, but with special rims I'm not sure you wouldn't have spent a few days in Jersey City or had the joy of a rental.
FWIW, I've driven a couple hundred miles on a donut, but I was pretty desperate (think WV turnpike at 2:00am).
You cannot put a different tire on a PAX rim. They are 17.5 rims, and no one maks them. Also virtually no one has the equipment to change them. According to Honda's web site if you have a flat in the first 50% of tread life they (Honda dealers) swap the rim/tire combo for free. After 50% it is prorated.
I have the same problem. I bought a used 2002 EXL with 42K miles. It is 46Kmiles now and that whistling noise above 60mph (only when you press the gas pedal) is bothersome and annoying. It doesn't affect the performance but it's painfully annoying to the ears. I have not gone to the dealership but I thought it's coming from the transmission. I hope Honda will do something about it. Anybody else has this problem? :sick:
Well...We have a 2003 EX and test drove everything on the market before purchasing it. This included renting a few also. Honda obviously has a few problems, but all vehicles do. The Ody was by far the best mini-van on the market, with the exception on the Sienna. We thought the Sienna was a little better for luxury and quiteness, but did not drive or handle anywhere near as well as the Ody. The Mazda MPV wasn't bad, but easily a class less in overall quality. The Chrysler products handled almost as well, but were very cheap and were, well, Chrysler products and have far worse failure rates.
Anyone interested in my PAX flat tire experience may want to check out the Run-Flat/PAX forum here. It was a very frustrating experience and my dealer tried to charge me $700 for a new wheel, just because mine had a cosmetic scratch on it. After 2 separate calls to Michelin I finally got my wheel/tire assembly changed for free. All Touring owners should be prepared for a hassle and have the Michelin phone number handy!
I also have a whistling problem with my 99 Odyssey but am not sure it is from the same thing. My guess is that it probably is. The noise seems to come from the the passenger side door sill next to the windshield area. I noticed the rubber seal sticks out a bit in one area around the door frame and not flush. The noise is prevelent at highway speeds and seems to be noticeably louder when we are going against the wind. We have not taken it to the dealer for this as it is hard to re-create. We have just lived with it. I have had enough and have decided to sell it.
I currently own a 99 Odyssesy and am looking to purchase an 05 model. I've gone thru a tranny recall at 94k miles with the second tranny showing signs of early problems. I was wondering if any 05 owners had noticed any issues with there's. I am hoping that this issue is resolved and since 05 is the first year of another redesign I am a little hesitant. I looked at the Sienna and liked it but the seats were not nearly as comfortable. I am 6'4'' with long legs and have a chronic sore back so comfort is important. Also, are there any other caveats with the 05 Odyssesy EX that I should know about? Appreciate your input. :confuse:
I have an 05 EXL -lots of people complained about the Honda seatbacks, use search on thes forums for more comments and take car for a good long test drive -radio receptions sucks due to window antenna - both AM and FM -plastic materials on doors etc scratch very easily so check if your feet hit the door when exiting -road noise too high for a 2005 vehicle other than a Hyundai maybe -use forum search about open window air noise buffeting which can be excrutiating -don't even bother going through the trailer hitch fiasco -take the Sienna for a ride which might now be more comfortable after reading this :mad:
Don't know if this is a pattern that we will see in other 05 Odyssey's or not, probably too early to tell, but at just over 4,000 miles and 4 months our new EXL developed a roaring noise specifically noticable between 20 - 40 mph.
The dealer thinks it is a wheel bearing problem, but at this time it is still being serviced and we don't yet know if replacement will do away with the noise.
"-lots of people complained about the Honda seatbacks, use search on thes forums for more comments and take car for a good long test drive"
I wouldn't call it "lots of people." there were a handful of people who complained a lot, but just as many people (or more) said the seats were fine.
"-road noise too high for a 2005 vehicle other than a Hyundai maybe"
Gratuitous Hyundai comment aside, I have not seen this complaint very often, and when I have, it is seemingly GM or other American car owners who liked the floaty, quiet ride of American cars (and reliability issues) and had a hard time adjusting to an import with better handling.
The other issues I have seen and are more or less accurate.
I will drive all the time on the highway with the windows down and moonroof open, especially in the summer (free AC!). Yeah, people look at you funny when it's 90 out.
Just trun the radio up so yo ucan hear it over the wind. Almost like riding a motorcycle w/o a helmet.
ALso a great way to clean out your car. All the loose paper trash gets sucked right out.
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checked everything and cant find a problem, my drivers side door is
fine. sliding door light is also on. please let me know if you find the
problem and I'll do the same!!
Good Luck.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I did check fuse #5 for passenger sliding door and that was good is there another one?? thanks for your advice!
Good Luck.
From my limited understanding of OBDII, there are two oxygen sensors, one before the front cat, one behind it. The front one does most of the work in feeding back to the ECU for adjusting the injector duration to maintain stoichiometry (a slightly lean air / fuel mix). I have not found much information that indicates that the rear sensor does anything more than monitor and report on how well the cat is doing with final combustion of the gases it is given. So the question is whether you really have a cat problem, or an instrumentation problem (bad sensor, bad wire between sensor and ECU, or an ECU that cannot properly interpret the data it is fed from the two sensors). That still leaves a lot of possibilities.... I would start by checking the integrity of the wire and connection at the rear sensor.
Steve
In addition the DVD/Navigation locks up all the time?
SIMPLY PUT - HONDA SCREWED UP!. They should have retained the rear quarter fold out vents to relieve air pressure. I am sure that is why the Sienna still has them.
:mad: :mad:
3473 of 3535 Open Window Air Buffeting 05 Ody Ex by eman Apr 13, 2005 (12:51 am)
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Well, it was bound to happen when warm weather comes!
I had complained previously that without the tilt-out rear quarter vents to relieve air pressure the side windows when open would create ear splitting buffeting noise.
The other day, nice 73 degrees, I opened the sunroof, my son (who is perpetually hot)was in the second row with his window down half way.
All seemed well to me in the drivers seat until I looked in the mirror and was shocked to see the 5 year old neighbor kid in the third row in agony with both ears pressed shut with his hands. I immediately recognized the problem an closed the second row window!
What surprised me is that I did not hear the buffeting myself. My (always hot) son and I always have this batle when he tries to open the side windows without balancing of the buffetint with other open windows
Parents beware, the buffeting can be painful to the ear drums!!!!
Honda, you realy screwed up on this one.
:mad: :mad:
Thanks again.
Becky~
Take the time to write a letter to the owner of the dealership letting them know how happy you are. That'll go a long way as well with the service staff.
Disclosure - I'm not affiliated with any dealership but have had similar expriences with my dealership.
I was unable to find a bad fuse relating to this door. The fact that the switch seems to be sticking, and it's 'clicks' are erratic leads me to believe that it's the culprit.
I plan to go after this switch, bench test it, and likely replace it.
I'll document it w/pictures & note the steps to remove/replace it.
I'll update this post with the information, including part number, cost and whether it was a success or not.
J.P.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, the small manual switch located at the rear of the track that is activated by the exterior and interior handles when the door is in the open position, was sticking (the small plastic arm wasn’t returning as it should). I figured that as the culprit.
After removing the switch, I found that it is serviceable (a micro switch within a Honda-specific housing). The switch tested to be fine, and I lubricated the pivot for the arm, and eliminated the sticking problem.
Although the sticking switch may have contributed to the problem, it wasn’t the reason that the door was inoperable.
After speaking to the service manager at the Honda dealership, I learned much more about these doors.....my problem in particular.
It turns out that a door (passenger door in my case) can get out of sequence as a result of a fault. Since these doors are very complex, there are numerous faults. In the event of a fault, the power will be shut off to the door with a fault, and the door(s) and must be reset.
Aside from an inoperable door (no power), a fault is likely indicated by the “Sliding Door” light illuminated in the right gauge when the master switch is in the on position. This is regardless of whether the door is closed or not. When the master switch is in the off position, the light will not be illuminated. There is a method to read the fault that the faulty door is reporting, if a bad fuse has been ruled out.
Sitting in the driver’s seat, with the ignition on, do the following:
Turn off the master switch located above the left & right power door switches.
Press and hold the power switch corresponding to the problem door. It doesn’t matter if you press “Open” or “Close”.
While holding the the power switch, turn the master switch on.
At this point the “Sliding Door” light will report a code indicated by flashing lights.
I believe that all codes are preceded by two long flashes (about 1 second each), followed by a specific number of shorter, split second flashes. Count the number of these flashes, as the number will indicate the specific fault.
If in your case, the number of short flashes after the initial two longer flashes is 5, then you have a grounding problem. I can help with that, as that was the fault in my case (code #25 - ground fault).
The steps necessary to fix this are detailed, although not difficult. The entire job took me exactly 1 hour, and I have an operational door again. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined and want to take this on yourself, feel free to email me at thallarsen@msn.com and I’ll help you, as I documented the steps & took pictures.
If the number of short flashes is other than 5, you’re still ahead of the game when it comes to chasing down your specific problem. Any Honda tech familiar with Odyssey power doors will be able to relate to you your specific code/fault based on the number of flashes.
My experience has been that if you are knowledgeable of the problem, you can reduce the expense of ‘troubleshooting’ or ‘diagnostics’ that many shops like to charge.
Oh, by the way, you can reset the doors. This will likely be a temporary fix, as the fault is likely the result of a problem that will likely recur after resetting the doors. And my experience is, the problem will rear it’s head at the worst time...when Mom is trying to load the kids in the car in a heavy rain.
To reset the doors:
Locate the fuse block on the passenger side.
With the ignition off, pull fuse #13, labeled “clock” and “backup”.
After a minute or so, re-seat/re-install the fuse.
This will reset the doors.....however your problem will likely recur, as this will not fix what initially caused the fault in the first place.
Oh, by the way, you can reset the doors. If you simply reset the doors without repairing the specific problem, it will likely be a temporary fix, as the fault is likely the result of a problem that will probably recur after resetting the doors.
Steve
I was fortunate to have found a service tech who was willing to take the time to share his knowledge with me (took a little name dropping....I know his boss & owner of the dealership).
I'm not familiar with how detailed the shop manual is regarding this, and which specific manual addresses the issues. Any helpful service tech should be able to answer that question for you.
I don't know that much about HondaCare, if they are a separate warranty provider from Honda America - and if they're guidelines of coverage are influenced and/or dictated by Honda America.
My guess is that as Honda sees problems with these doors on aging vehicles, they'll likely step up to the plate when it comes to standing behind their product.
They did that with the '99 - '02 transmissions.
Although I'm rather disappointed with this vehicle, I must say that Honda does stand behind their product. Regarding the faulty transmissions in '99 - '02 Ody's, it didn't take the threat of a class action suit, or a federally-recognized safety issue for them to adjust the warranty coverage & make good on customers' claims.
Maybe they'll do it with the sliding doors. Certainly more of a safety-related issue.
Honda Care is the warranty arm of Honda A, and I bought the 7yr/100k/$0 plan, in part because of reading this board. But thanks to this board, the price was under $900 from an out of state dealer, so it was win-win all around. To me, it is peace of mind. But I was a bit troubled by some of the exclusions dealing with the highly complex doors, as they are considered to be 'body parts', which are not covered. I have heard from some that this phrase can be applied somewhat liberally, depending on the dealer, to skate on covering electro/mechanical issues. Hopefully, that is more rumor than fact....
Steve
It's a problem and solution topic for Odyssey owners, however, nothing says that non-owners can't chime in. It may seem impertinent to you, but you don't have to respond either.
After replacing it with the donut spare, I took the next exit (#16) to Jersey city. I went to the nearest gas station, who called a supplier, but the size was not available (235-65-R16). Located the nearest Honda dealer with the help of the sales guy at an autoparts store. The dealer kept me for about an hour in the service area, only to come back and let me know that the tire needs replacing (like I didn't know!) and had to order it (cost $199). Said it would take 3 days! Only problem was that I had to make it to MA, so that was not an option. To cut the story short, I spent the next 2 hours trying different local tire shops and no one had the tire. All of them kept blaming honda for introducing yet another tire size with the 05 model.
By then it was close to 6PM and I was getting desperate. The incident had happened at 2 PM. Everyone discouraged me from making the rest of the trip to Mass on the donut spare. The last shop (Terry Tire) I went to was very helpful. Although they did not have the tire, seeing the two toddlers in the car, suggested I get a tire that was close to the original and complete my journey. That's what we did..and made it to Mass on a used 225-65-R16.
Once I got back, I ordered the tire from Tirerack ($75+shipping) and got it installed by a recommended installer in Berlin MA, who did the RoadForce balance using state of the art Hunter equipment, and the van drives better than new! I ordered an extra tire from Tirerack to carry with me on long trips, to avoid such an ordeal.
Fellow 05 non-touring odyssey readers, the regular radial tires were hard to come by as of this writing, even at the local dealership. Tirerack has some kind of overnight emergency service, but still would cost you a night's unplanned stay.
If I had PAX, would I be able to make the 250 mile drive home without all these hassles? I am not certain, but the installer in MA says that would not have been possible. Besides, finding a PAX tire and an installer that has the PAX equipment would be perhaps harder. Honda dealer on the way was of no help. Michelin has a hotline for PAX users, and may have helped in other ways such as trip interruption service, locating a replacement tire, installer, etc.
Two positive things from the experience: The vehicle handled well and stayed in control with a blown tire. The alloy wheel was undamaged, even though the tire was ruined. Nicely designed and very reassuring.
FWIW, I've driven a couple hundred miles on a donut, but I was pretty desperate (think WV turnpike at 2:00am).
My two cents.
Also, are there any other caveats with the 05 Odyssesy EX that I should know about? Appreciate your input. :confuse:
-lots of people complained about the Honda seatbacks, use search on thes forums for more comments and take car for a good long test drive
-radio receptions sucks due to window antenna - both AM and FM
-plastic materials on doors etc scratch very easily so check if your feet hit the door when exiting
-road noise too high for a 2005 vehicle other than a Hyundai maybe
-use forum search about open window air noise buffeting which can be excrutiating
-don't even bother going through the trailer hitch fiasco
-take the Sienna for a ride which might now be more comfortable after reading this :mad:
The dealer thinks it is a wheel bearing problem, but at this time it is still being serviced and we don't yet know if replacement will do away with the noise.
I wouldn't call it "lots of people." there were a handful of people who complained a lot, but just as many people (or more) said the seats were fine.
"-road noise too high for a 2005 vehicle other than a Hyundai maybe"
Gratuitous Hyundai comment aside, I have not seen this complaint very often, and when I have, it is seemingly GM or other American car owners who liked the floaty, quiet ride of American cars (and reliability issues) and had a hard time adjusting to an import with better handling.
The other issues I have seen and are more or less accurate.
I have the same problem too when the car was going above 40 mph, but that happenened to my other car as well.
I've seen people doing 75 on the highway with their windows rolled down, I wonder if they complain about the wind buffeting inside their car
Just trun the radio up so yo ucan hear it over the wind. Almost like riding a motorcycle w/o a helmet.
ALso a great way to clean out your car. All the loose paper trash gets sucked right out.
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