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2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I wont touch the Honda comment.
As for fuel economy, I normally average 21-22mpg in 100% city driving (I have an automatic). However, it has dipped as low as 18. On the highway, it averages 26mpg but it did get 27 one time. I use 87 octane gas with no ill effects.
As for the TSBs, a large number of those means nothing. A lot of them are simply procedure or repair manual updates and sometimes more then one TSB is issued for the same thing. Only a few pertain to common problems that may be encountered by Tiburon owners.
Scared Straight
Apollo2005
Some no-good dealers (Hyundai or otherwise) will try to prove that you abused the tranny and try to get out of replacing it. See regional rep.
Apollo
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#1 of 1 Hyundai Tiburon clutch by costin Dec 08, 2004 (4:25 pm)
Hi everyone,
I have a 2004 Hyunday Tiburon with only 6,200 miles on the dash, purchased in July 2004. The cluth died on me and I am still fighting with Hyundai to get the clutch covered under waranty. They denied me, even though I was driving standard transmission cars for about 20 years. The dealer from Philadelphia (what a crook) does not want to admit that something is wrong with the car that a premature clutch wearing occured. He wants $1,100 for the job and calling Hyundai they will take dealer's word against yours. Such a bad reputation for a company that tries to build a reputation in the US. Anyone has any ideas of how to fight this issue?
I think you have the same problem I had. Stand your ground! I am convinced there is a major defect/problem with most of the 2003 to 2005 Tiburons. The cluth assembly seems to be the problem. I over heard two sales persons talking while I was waiting for an oil change once. The conversation went something like this; "I don't know what's wrong with the Tiburon's transmission. But, we seem to be getting a lot of complaints." Friend I tell you this is an issue worth going to war over! Go all the way! If you want I can give you the info about my Tib. Maybe it can help. Standing by, to help you stick it to them!!!
I had called the dealership and they told me the clutch isn't covered under warranty--It ran out at 12,000 miles (my car had 25,000 at the time). The dealership wanted to charge $1000 or more depending on what needed to be replaced, I didn't have the $1000 to fix it at the dealership.
I ordered the factory Clutch, pressure plate, and throwout bearing and brought it to a mechanic for repairs. After replacing the clutch the mechanic recommended the Flywheel be replaced also, unfortunetly the cost of the flywheel was like $1200 --which I couldnt afford after paying for a new clutch and labor. In the warranty book it states that the flywheel is covered up to 50,000 miles if factory defect.
I called Consumer Affairs at Hyundai Motor of America and explained my situation and made them aware that I did have my clutch replaced but the flywheel needed to be replaced per my mechanic...
The case manager gave me claim # and told me to take my car to the dealership and the mechanic will diagnose the problem to determine if factory defect or caused by the driver and to have the recalls done at the same time.
I dropped my car off at the dealership, the next day they called me telling me the flywheel was ordered and will be overnighted to them the next day and my car would be ready in a couple days.
The Service Manager called me the following day to let me know that there is a problem and out of his control.... that the field Rep is not going to authorize the repairs and is voiding out my warranty due to my title, something that I didn't notice. My title stated
"not actual miles" it should state "actual miles"---and if I get corrected to bring the car back and they will reinstate the warranty and fix my car. .
The next day I went to the DMV and found out that the DMV Clerk had done made the same error on other titles. I had to make an appointment to bring my car back in for a
VIN VERIFICATION to verify the mileage.----Which I did, the lady at the DMV faxed in the completed VIN VERIFICATION form and called Hyundai Corporation. stating my title has been corrected sent to Sacramento for processing and it would take a couple weeks.
After driving for about a week it started making a loud screeching noise and it was difficult to shift -- when I came to a stop in order to shift into 1st gear I had to turn off the ignition, shift to 1st gear, start the ignition and proceed to drive--this also happened when I had to shift into reverse. But the most frustrating times was on the freeway when it was impossible to shift into gear and coasted to the side of the freeway without getting rear ended.
Finally, after waiting 3 weeks for for Hyundai Corp. to get the DMV paperwork from Sacramento, the case manager called me at 7am to let me know my warranty is reinstated and gave me authorization to take my car in to the dealership for the repairs and recalls.
When I brought my car into the dealership for the 2nd time, it was there for about a week before I called and the service manager told me my car will be ready in couple days, not knowing he hasn't even got to my car yet.
The following day I received a call from the service manager, expecting to hear good news I got the opposite... he told me that the Rep was going to void out my warranty this time ----because my clutch wasn't repaired by a Hyundai Technician, this really upset me due to the fact I made him aware I had a new clutch put in and it wasn't by Hyundai, he didn't have a problem with it then. I had to drive the car for a whole month with the loud screeching and hard shifting, totally unsafe!
My car is still at the dealership, There is a new service manager who is now telling me the wear is from the way the car is driven, he is telling me this before he even takes the car apart. He also told me that clutch is like brake pads, normal wear and tear!!!"
Anyone who has driven a Tiburon knows that the car cannot be driven hard because of the DELAY VALUE in the slave cylinder, u couldnt light the tires up if u had to !!!
TSB #04-04-005:
M/T - Revised Clutch Components
Group
TRANSAXLE
Number
04-40-005
Date
MARCH, 2004
Model
2003 TIBURON 2.7L
Subject
REVISED CLUTCH COMPONENTS FOR MANUAL TRANSAXLES
DESCRIPTION:
New clutch components are available to improve clutch operation for 2003 MY Tiburon vehicles with 2.7L engines and manual transaxles produced through April 1, 2003. The new dual mass flywheel, clutch disc, clutch cover and release bearing are described in this bulletin.
VEHICLES AFFECTED:
^ Model: 2003 TIBURON vehicles with 2.7L engine and manual transaxles
^ Affected vehicle production date range: Produced through April 1, 2003
PARTS INFORMATION
PROCEDURE:
1. Confirm that the vehicle was produced before April 1, 2003.
2. Verify the condition reported by the customer as clutch-related.
3. Replace the dual mass flywheel, clutch disc, clutch cover and clutch release bearing (with new parts numbers provided in the PARTS INFORMATION section of this bulletin) using the procedure outlined in the applicable Shop Manuals.
4. Refer to TSB 03-40-011 and TSB 02-40-025 for additional service procedures for the pull type clutch system.
Hyundai is the most DISSATISFYING EXPERIENCE I HAVE GONE THROUGH.
I need your help---Hyundai needs to take responsibility and recall their defected clutch parts! Please respond, thank you!!!
Your title fiasco only made things worse. You are not the only one with a V6 Tib defective flywheel. Its time for Hyundai to step up and have a voluntary recall for this. Early clutch failure is inexusable. Its way too easy to just blame the driver and say "you wore out the linings early." I find it interesting that your independent mechanic was able to flag the flywheel as defective.
I'll give you an example: Let's say you have your oil changed at Jiffy Lube and use a Hyundai filter. This filter happens to have a poor seal and ends up leaking out the oil enough to blow your engine. Unless you can prove the oil filter was bad to begin with, a Hyundai dealer will direct you to go to Jiffy Lube because as far as they are concerned, Jiffy Lube screwed up the oil change and ruined your engine. It would now be up to their warranty on their service rather then Hyundai's. You are encountering a similar issue. NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES should you have your car fixed by someone else when it is under factory warranty. I know you are angry about this and I don't blame you, but if you think about it, the dealer's stance does make sense. I got my fingers crossed for you and hope that you can get this resolved in your favor, but the other mechanic fixing the clutch is a big strike against you. I can bear witness to the fact Hyundai will replace clutches outside of the 12k mark. My dealer replaced the clutch on a former 2000 Accent at 23k after I complained about a noisy throwout release bearing. They heard the noise and ended up replacing the clutch for free even though I didn't ask them to. So it can be done and with minimal hassles as long as you let them fix it rather then another garage.
As far as repair work, I would go to the dealer. I had an exception a couple months ago. I was on the way to the Lake of the Ozarks and my Sportage just lost power and died. Turns out the alternator went out(the Sportage 4x4 had about 88,000 miles on it at that point). It was towed in and fixed by a small-town Missouri mechanic who does a large volume of work. The work was done well and the price was fair, including their own tow truck charge(actually I couldn't find the detailed charge for the tow on my bill). Point is, that sort of repair you can't plan for...if I could I would've taken it to my Kia dealer, which is Youngblood Kia, in Springfield, MO. Get your car fixed where they only work on your brand of car exclusively, if you can.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I can kick myself in the butt for not just taking my car in when the clutch went out but it was undrivable, so i called the dealershiip and spoke to the manager, he basically told me I was S.O.L and didnt give me any advise and wish I knew then what I know now and had that TSB,I would have made sure he followed those proceduces! It just really pisses me off that he didnt even have the common courtesy to advise me that the parts were advised--I found on Ebay the original factory parts and thought I was getting a great deal when all I was buying was the same old "deformed" parts that were revised in that TSB....
I am taking them to small claims court and see what happens--my car has been at the dealership for twice and still there since January.
I have filed complaints with just about everyone along with a lot of other upset customers, I dont understand why nothing is being done....
thanks again, guys, it is great having someone to listen and care.
Kathi
It went out the first time at 2200 miles - which was ridiculous enough. I noticed some anomalies when driving it about 6 months later but the service folks couldn't find any problems with the clutch. Now, at nearly 15,000 miles a year later, it goes out again.
Like some other posters the service rep said I needed to pay $1800 for a clutch/flywheel due to the way I drive the car, which is ridiculous. I asked to speak with a manager and evidently because I reported the problem at six months and that I came w/in 10 miles short of being 12,000 miles of the first clutch replacement the manager was able to get me the repair on warranty.
While this is good, I had no idea (until now) that so many others have had this issue. It infuriates me more.
I am considering my next car and won't buy a Hyundai again. Hello, Toyota and Honda. I'm coming back.
Just interested to know if Hyundai is finally going to admit they have a looker and performer here, and that they will fully exploit the personality of this car by offering a drop top.
Anyone care to respond, with their knowledge?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I feel that Hyundai's build quality is solid, and I am very satisfied with the vehicle’s safety. Last year I was involved in a motor vehicle collision, and I sustained no injuries. The Eclipse that was attempting to pull a U-turn into the liquor store in front of me was totaled, and the passenger sustained a badly fractured leg. My vehicle was back on the road in two weeks.
As for performance, the handling is tight. I appreciate the good response the Tiburon provides in turns. However, I feel that the Tiburon could benefit from a few more horses. For a sports coupe, it is a little sluggish off the line. I am looking forward to installing some aftermarket upgrades once the vehicle hits 60,000 miles- cold air intake, supercharger, clutch, and exhaust.
Many of the posts I have read mention issues with the factory clutch/flywheel. The clutch response was actually an issue for me since I first bought the vehicle. It just doesn’t FEEL like other manuals I have driven Now, I refuse to drive an automatic, just my control freak side rearing its ugly head I suppose. However, I had never driven a six speed before, so I figured that the unusual clutch feel of the Tiburon was normal for the transmission.
I am fully expecting to replace the assembly with something more robust. However, after reading the TSB and other anecdotal posts regarding the Tiburon, I am concerned that current clutch/flywheel will not make it that long. That brings me to my question. Should I bring it in to the dealer and have the new assembly installed per the TSB I read posted on this forum, or just drive it and hope it doesn’t give out on a road trip? A third option would be upgrading to an aftermarket clutch/flywheel now, but I believe that would void the warranty on the engine. Something I am hesitant to do until the vehicle is paid off. Any suggestions are appreciated.
-Guyton
My son and I purchased a 2003 Tiburon new in July of 2003.
He is a soldier and in October of that year he was deploed to Iraq. The car sat until his return in March of 2004.
In June 2004 his clutch went. Only 15000 miles on the car.
He was deployed again in July and this past January I decided to have the car fixed so that he could drive it upon his return in March 2005.
It went into Atlantic Hyundai for a diognostic where it was determined it was the clutch. Unfortunately, I accepted the dealers claim that the clutch wasn't covered under warranty. My son paid $1100 to reapir the car.
I need to note that I had to go back to the dealership 4 times before the car was drivable. Believe it or not every time I went to Hyundai the dealer had broken something on the car. The speedometer, the window, the door, it was a nightmare.
My son returned home on March 14 and drove the car from the 15 to the 19 and then an unbelivable thing happened.. the clutch blew apart, right through the transmission.. Hyundai is giving me a hard time with this... any suggestions?
It seems like the pedals are sitting too far forward. I feel constant pressure on my knee. It clears up after driving the Accent for a few days. I love the car but hate the pain. She may be headed for the dealers lot if I can't fix this.
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By the way, I also compared the seat's comfort to a previous 2000 Accent which I thought had one of the most comfortable seats in the automotive world.
thanks....tracy
with the impending launch this summer of the Pontiac Solstice and the Saturn Sky a little later the folks @ Hyundai had better get in in gear. There will no doubt be a "spillover" of buyers that will not want to wait for these cars (and the required price gouging that will certainly take place ala the Miata & PT Cruiser.) and will look at the Hyundai offering which will probably have a price advantage as well as a leg up on quality and value.
Tibby convertable ? I'll take one in red please LOL !
Believer
I pray this isnt the beginning of a nightmare
p.s. funny, when the finance guy was telling me of the warranty, he said that it DOESNT cover clutch. I thought that was kinda funny after reading these posts.
My oldest - 14 - wants to be in the military in some way. My kids have much much more respect for soldiers than football players. I remember 9/11 and when no one else was flying I remember feeling so safe when the jets would fly by - to protect all of us. And for those who do not say so or even protest, I bet they felt safer too. Thank you so much. Sorry to go off-topic :} And Ward Churchill is in no way a representative of CU!!!! :shades: