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LOL..
gas prices are traded like a commodity. Use goes up, then so does prices.
True.
And a lot of people "make it big" through hard work and mental perspiration.
We probably only differ in opinion about which group is larger.
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Sorry sneakers - I just saw your previous post.
I paid 2.899 for premium 2 days ago (Cedar Park, Texas). Probably up 2-3 cents more by now.
Gas is $3.09 for premium.
Well put. That was my whole point. WHile I agree that with greater power and money comes greater responsibility, there is also something to be said about the blind attack on people who made it.......from the small orphan who ended up with a gas station, to the college drop out who now owns only his home...
we all have responsibilities to the society. But IT is not automatic nor correct to assume that the rich got there deviously and needs to return all his money to charity. Maybe some people watch too much TV Enron coverage ?
Gas prices may go down, now that many refineries in the Gulf coast are coming back on line after Katrina.
We should all drive less...and buy more responsibly.
Right in time for the upcoming hurricane season eh?
To think, prices have spiked 40 cents with more or less nothing happening to justify it...think what will happen with another hurricane! $5 here we come.
What percentage of our gas comes from the gulf, again?
", there is also something to be said about the blind attack on people who made it"
And the blind defense of said people...
So, I want to know more about the 4-state area that has the lowest gas prices and why. We know that Idaho and Montana are two of the four. Are the Dakotas the other two, or is Wyoming involved?
I don't think it has anything to do with state gasoline taxes.
It is a great attribute. We all need to amp down the pressures and stress a bit. Like pf flyer says let's not attack each other personally but try to help each other and at the very least just report your local gas prices. I still think we're doing better than we think we are as far as how much we pay at the pump.
But, we will eventually pay more. There comes the 2007 Toyota Yaris base sedan into my mind once again! I'll keep y'all posted as to how it's going getting that little nougat from here way up in the Rockies! Happy and safe motoring, now!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
YOu are too...a low key person who expresses point of view, without resorting to personal attacks.
I am glad for the many insightful posts...even those who hold a grudge against a vehicle , person, company, or issues. This is what makes this country great. YOu can't do it in many places. Why, if we were posting in the Good ole China, most of us would be in jail now...seriously. I was walking in TianAnMen Square on Jan 10th, 2 months ago, and after I asked directions from a policeman, he grabbed a guy walking with a backpack...and with no cause or warrant, initiated a search. I have a photo of it, taken secretly since I did not want to get hauled in too. I wanted to confront the police about the massacre, but my friends half -jokingly said to wait til they run far away before I did that.
gas prices will go down, then up...but let us start preparing for $5 gas prices. When you are prepared to pay $5 per gal, then $3 is not bad.
Actually, in 1981 gas was an inflation adjusted $3.12 ....so we were not doing so bad the past 10 years.
You have a great time and safe motoring to you too.,,,
YOu still get $2.87 ? I wish we can hold it there...or let it go down. It would be great to find new sources while we work on an alternative....
have a safe and good trip driving from State to York..
ARCO ULSD $2.99 also. Now the Passat TDI is paying for itself.
$2.95 for Silver 89
$3.05 for Premium 93
$3.09 for Ultra 94
Dumas, Tx.
I took a vacation day today, because the wife was having a serious asthma problems last night, and she left her inhaler at our last residence and was up most of the night, which gave me ample time to post. I was going to burn it (Vac) on Saturday, but oh-well. Family comes first.
Rocky
91 = PREMIUM?!?!?! Ninety-one is not premium, it's horse urine!!!! :mad:
93 is Ultra!!! NINETY-FOUR IS ULTRA!!!! :mad:
It's like buying a Porsche 911 only to discover the Carerra badge is on a Beetle!
Scumbags! I oughta fill the tanks of the Sunoco execs' Bentleys, Rolls, and Maybachs with a 50/50 mixture of kerosene with Delaware River water with rocks sticks and bugs in it! Imagine me having to feed my Caddies on McDonald's labeled as Le Bec Fin!
Rocky
I agree...I wish we had 94 octane available....but with those prices...I would defer.
I hope your wife and family is fine...and to have more bottles of inhalers around, if possible. I know they are expensive.
maybe we all need one after looking at the gas pump prices....
I remember one photo showing a gas station owner who had a sense of humour...next to 'reg unleaded' he posted a pic of an arm....and next to the ' super unleaded' he posted a leg.....
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Sorry for the off-topic but it's me line-a-work!
I paid $2.44/gal for 87 no-lead today in the south end of Pocatello, ID, today. We're getting a little more realistic now with the rest of the nation.
It's Idaho, Wyoming and Utah that get the best gas prices in the nation, I read today in the paper. Oh, yeah! And Jellystone Park and the Grand Tetons, too?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
highender, Thanx for the concern pal. My insurance picks up the cost and she rarely uses it. She had a attack last nite for the first time in a few months.
BTW- Any of you watched Lou Dobbs on CNN. WOW, What a good story and show they had tonight. Oil cartels, OPEC, Price Fixing,
Also.....
Reps. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont, and Peter DeFazio, D-Oregon, co-wrote a letter to President Bush calling for an Emergency Energy Summit to immediately reduce the skyrocketing cost of gas in the United States.
Rocky
All she has is a butrol inhaler she says.
Rocky
P.S.
Gas is $2.89 all throughout Dumas
"If everyone decided to drive 3% less the next 30 days, prices would crash," says Tom Kloza, senior analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.
He doubts that Americans could manage that — "We know how well appeals to personal sacrifice work" — but still foresees less-than-normal growth in gasoline consumption this year.
I'm so damn mad guys....... :mad:
Rocky
Rocky:
Don't you have a big million dollar package written into your contract? :shades: I agree that is obscene.... I imagine Exxon CEO is a light weight compared to what Bill Gates will take out of Microsoft when he retires. Paul Allen got $Billions when he left Microsoft in his 40s. No MBA he was a college dropout like Gates. Now he is into oil. I guess that makes him one of the "bad guys".
Microsoft cofounder, "wired world" proponent lately finding more promise in pipes delivering oil instead of information. Bought energy outfit Plains Resources for $460 million, controlling stake in Plains All American Pipeline, operator of 15,000 miles of oil pipelines. Through Vulcan Energy unit, paid $250 million for natural gas storage business from Sempra Energy.
Maybe it's a double standard, but for some reason I don't necessarily have a problem with the money Bill and Paul earn since it essentially is their company. At least with Bill (don't know about Paul) much of his fortune will end up being used for philanthropy as he's mentioned many times he will not leave the majority of his money to his heirs.
I know Paul has done a lot for the Seattle as well and both Bill and Paul have made a lot of people a lot of money along the way.
No doubt about it. I think the Gates foundation is the largest in the USA if not the World. My point is that we are not upset with huge salaries and packages, only if we see a direct relationship to our pocket book. I have no idea how much these CEOs contribute to the general good. I made reference to Paul Allen's current ventures as they are oil related. Does that make him a bad guy?
I have no big issue with Gates and Allen's compensation, they are the company, or they made it anyway. I do have issue with Allen requesting so much in the way of public funds to aid his ego-boosting toy of a football team.
I'd say it would be wrong to label him a bad guy just cause he's investing in oil. Paul invests in all sorts of things, such as SpaceShip One, the SETI program, and on and on. I'm sure he hasn't made much of a return on those ventures.
I'm not always happy with Microsoft, but I certainly respect what Bill and Paul have accomplished and they at least seem willing to give back to society.
Regarding CEO's, I guess I'm more tolerant when they were involved with the formation of the company and for the most part act in a professional and ethical manor. But when you see a CEO hired from outside the company or has only been employed by the company for a few years and gets millions and millions, seems ridiculous to me. Unless of course, that was my name on the check. LOL.
Well he's not alone in that regard, seems like all the teams do that. I like football as much as anyone, but I don't want my tax money supporting a stadium, that will still charge me several hundred bucks to take my family to a game. But that's a completely different issue.
Rocky
I would imagine most of that 398 million was in the form of stock that he was given as compensation for his duties as CEO. As you know it has gone up a LOT. I think you need to apply for that job. There must be an opening. Anyone can do it. Get your resume in the mail.
PS
I don't think you can accuse the Exxon CEO of milking the company dry. He took it to the pinnacle of profitability. I am glad my 401K has a few shares of oil stocks. Hope your does also.
Rocky
I don't think you can accuse the Exxon CEO of milking the company dry. He took it to the pinnacle of profitability. I am glad my 401K has a few shares of oil stocks. Hope your does also.
I have 100% of my 401K in the New Perspective Fund R-4. I dunno if their is oil stocks in that or not ? :confuse:
Rocky
NEW YORK - Exxon Mobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) announced Thursday that Lee R. Raymond, 66, will retire as chairman and chief executive of the petroleum leviathan.
Raymond gave over 42 years of service to the oil giant, starting with its predecessor, Exxon, which he joined in 1963 as a production research engineer. Raymond sat as chairman and CEO of Exxon prior to its Nov. 30, 1999 merger with Mobil.
Industry observers say the smart money is on President Rex W. Tillerson, 53, to get the nod from Exxon's board as the next chairman and CEO
I think the $398,000,000 figure was some Lou Dobbs spin.
Raymond took $69.7 million in compensation, $98 million pension payout
His $98 million pension payout reflects 43 years of service. But he would have received nearly $17 million less had he retired just last year, according to the company's 2005 proxy statement.
In this year's proxy statement, Exxon defended the package by saying it rewards Raymond's "outstanding leadership of the business, continued strengthening of our worldwide competitive position, and continuing progress toward achieving long-range strategic goals." Raymond had been CEO since 1993 before stepping down at the end of last year.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12356099/
It's not a Dobbs spin, since I've seen that figure on other news broadcasts.
Rocky
Just pulling your chain. I saw it also. Now I cannot find it. Typical media hype.
More than I got after 45 years in the Telephone business. I did get paid well the last 35 years, so I am happy.
Well I'm not the only guy that that saw it reported. I guess it's a Left vs. Right
media conspiracy
:shades:
Rocky
Still it's a rude wake up call to see prices at this level.
Traffic hasn't slowed on the freeway and the teeny boppers are still drag racing at the stop lights.
Doesn't the typical motorist realize his gas dollar goes father at much lower speeds and using conservative driving techniques is common sense saving $ on fuel?
Conclusion: Price of fuel is to go much higher before driving behavior is modified.
Of course not every car will work on this . However every new car from that point foward and the older cars will.
The problems are simply , we aren't doing it.
As i've said twice in this thread already , make it mandatory that every new station and station that gets renovated carries e85/95 and desiel. That would mean with in the next 10 years all gas stations in this country will have alternative fuels at the pump. Within 5 years you shouldn't have much of a problem finding these fuels in your state.
The problem is why , isn't this being done ? I don't know about you but I rather pay 3$ a gallon for e85 where the money goes to this countrys farmers than where the money goes to the middle east .
1. The engine has to be completely tuned specifically to run E85 fuel--that means adjustments to fuel delivery methods, compression ratios and engine computer management that will be very different than that of gasoline engines.
2. You will need ethanol on an unprecedented scale. That means so much farmland used that the energy consumption just to make all that ethanol will be HUGE. :surprise:
2) I don't think you understand the amount of crops that the usa buys from farmers in this country that goes on to do nothing . There is a syurp made from corn I believe that we have so much of , they now use it for almost every food out there . We have since found out through studys that this is one of the causes of obesity . Thus we are going to slowly stop using this in food. Which means more unused corn
You also forget that municpal waste can be used for e85. I'm sure no one will mind us sending crap to the refinerys instead of dumps .
In jersey where I live this would be fine . We already have dump trucks coming from north jersey and NYC down the turnpike past the gas refinerys to the dumps . Why not just car it to new refinerys tha will turn it into something usefull .
Not only that but we have a way to help the financal situations of farmers will be addressed. Now the excess crops can be turned into e85 and sold at market prices , not only that but alot of farm waste (the parts of the crop that isn't sold ) can be used for e85 . Thus saving farmers the disposel fees .
e85 for this country is a great step foward and should be pressed for as strongly as possible
I thought about filling up on my way back through, but by then it was after dark, and, well I value my life a bit more than saving 20 cents or so per gallon! :surprise: Doesn't seem like a bad neighborhood by day. Lots of old people strolling about, rows of houses that look like they could've been used for exterior shots in "Mama's Family" or "Roseanne", lots of 80's cars still running about. But when the sun goes down, I hear it ain't so pretty....