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BTW, the local Sheetz raised their price again, this time to $2.89 for 87. Premium (93) is 20 cents higher, and diesel is "only" $2.79.
In town, 87 is $2.79 at Hess.
I think you are confusing E85 with methane gas that is produced from municipal waste. Methane can be run in most engines. It is used to power generators for electricity in many cities.
E85/E95 is not capable of running in a diesel type engine. That is biodiesel that is made from many different crops mainly soybeans. biodiesel can also be made from used fryer grease. Biodiesel so far is more of a small business grass roots type solution. So it does not get the national attention that ethanol has received.
Maybe it has to do with the E10 mandate coming May 5th. Are they being forced to put ethanol in the higher grades of gas?
http://www.greatfallstribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060409/BUSINESS/60- 4090318/1046
In Vancouver proper I see gas is about $1.16 (CDN)/l which comes out to around $3.88 gallon....but more tax of course.
I am in the market....but have not decided.
Traffic hasn't slowed on the freeway and the teeny boppers are still drag racing at the stop lights.
Doesn't the typical motorist realize his gas dollar goes father at much lower speeds and using conservative driving techniques is common sense saving $ on fuel?
Conclusion: Price of fuel is to go much higher before driving behavior is modified.
YOu and delray are correct....
Americans...indeed all motorists, must modify their driving habits....That is the best way to go.
we should get more alternatives in place....and do it now.
better do it now, than lattter....
I saw a website that showed how our tax dollars made it possible for the one of the oil rich middleeast shieks to build an indoor ski slope , with nice ski runs....IN the middle of the desert....!!
better keep the money here in US
after doing coolie labor last night, we needed gas...and most places in Oakland were $3,03 for 87....up to $3.29 for 92 ......we finally went to friend's usual quickstop store, where we got 87 for $2.99.
"What the Hell happened?"
Back to reality, Hess has now raised their prices 10 cents on all grades, starting at $2.89 for 87. So now, everyone is about the same (central VA).
And I heard oil is up to $75?!
We were warned...
Average income: $4,454
Ford car: $1748-$3151
Milk: $.97
Gas: $.23
Bread $.18
Postage stamp: $.03
Chuck Pot Roast: $ .33 lb.
Spareribs: $.39 lb.
Cabbage: $.04 lb.
Eggs, doz.: $.45
Coffee: $.69 lb.
Carnation Instant Chocolate Drink, 10oz.: $.33
Rheingold Beer, 6, 12 .oz cans: $1.20
Is gas approaching the price of being commensurate with other consumer goods? You do the math.
You hit the nail right on !! How come prices increased...but service not only decreased...but became nonexistent ?
I am going to use your example and tell all my friends...is that OK ? I will give you full credit, so no plagiarism...eh ?
Here, in this upscale area, 87 reg was $3.19,,, 89mid was $3.29, and 91 prem was $ 3.41
After coming home to east bay...gas at local market was $3.03 for 87......and $3.19 for 91 prem.
didn't catch a glimpse of Bush , though.
April 21 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said the switch to ethanol in gasoline may cause supply disruptions for several months.
At least six filling stations in Philadelphia and the surrounding region were out of fuel yesterday because of the switch, according to AAA, the nation's largest motorist organization. Refiners are seeking to replace the additive MTBE in gasoline by May because of changes in fuel requirements in the energy bill that President George W. Bush signed in August.
``We're going to see some problems,'' he told reporters after giving a speech at a conference in Washington. ``I do believe over a period of time -- that is, a matter of months -- it will level out.''
Why gas is high
The shortage of refinery capacity due to the NIMBY folks and the EPA throughout the decades who wouldn't allow any to be built and the switching to ethanol is causing spot supply problems. The stations and companies are using this to raise prices artificially higher. That will make it easier to get them over these levels in the summer driving season.
Add to that the relatively shallow intellect of the writers for the media articles who write from the news releases from the petroleum institute and can't really profess to any business acumen of their own, and the media ends up helping the panic attitude. Everyone fills their tank rather than averaging 1/2- 3/4 a tank and the extra gallons being hauled around in their cars because they're afraid of the shortage or of higher prices causes additional short fall.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060421/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/brazil_oil_sufficiency
Today's SF chronicle , on front page, says the prices have pushed some drivers off the road...and transit agencies see more riders....
Oil here in California has almost surpassed the inflation adjusted 1981 prices of $3.12 /gal for reg.
Yeehaw!
just spent 400 dollars on gas this week in one vehicle.
Rocky
So to get money to fill up their tanks, some people are hitting the pawn shops.
People are going in more and more to local pawn shops selling bikes and lawn mowers to get some cash to fill up their vehicles.
In the last month, the Erwin Pawn shop has seen more than 50 customers come in and sell items to get money for gas.
"This year's worse. I think people are already overextended and the gas prices don't help out much more," says David Erwin, owner of the Erwin Pawn Shop.
In a matter of just 30 minutes today, we ran into one of David's customers making his second trip to pawn belongings for gas money.
"To get gas money, pawn some stuff to get gas money because gas money is really high," Adam Inma told us.
And just down the road, we ran into another person who has also been in the same situation.
"I would, yes. I've had to do that before as a matter of fact because this car uses a lot of gas so yeah I would have to do that," says Aimee Evans.
Aimee says she is able to worry less now because of her job...
But still understands how it is for others who aren't as lucky.
"I think it depends on the kind of work you are in, if you make enough money. I'm an escort driver for pilot trucks, but if I wasn't doing that, yeah I would have to go and pawn stuff so I could make gas because I live all the way on Cherry Avenue," says Evans.
Everyone we spoke with today says they hope gas doesn't increase, but all signs point to it continuing to rise and that means some of people may to have to part with their valuables to get extra cash.
http://www.newschannel10.com/Global/story.asp?S=4798122
Our local news story on gas. Watch the video if your interested. :surprise:
2 Famous Quote, and I'm sure everyone knows the guy who said em'. :P
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2000 :surprise:
"The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway." —explaining why high taxes on the rich are a failed strategy, Annandale, Va., Aug. 9, 2004
Rocky
P.S. Gas at one station reached $2.90 in Dumas, Tx according to a friend
This is my first post in this thread. Here's something you might be shocked at:
I filled my van up on Thursday: $2.779
Filled up my wife's Passat today: $2.769 :surprise:
(Yes, it was the same station. And yes, I did put regular in the VW by mistake.)
I'm sure it'll start going back up next week.
Maybe we're lucky here in Portland. Some places are still in the $2.60s. There is one station that has topped $3.00.
I try to fill up at the same 76 station. It's prices are pretty good, and it's only about a mile out my way. I keep a log of my fill ups. The following will be no surprise to anyone (again, this is from the same station, regular):
2/16 $1.989
3/07 $2.029
3/19 $2.259
3/31 $2.349
4/13 $2.559
4/21 $2.779
Heck, it's not even close to Memorial Day.
Vic
Oregon drivers are the fastest in the NW averaging 15 over the limit on the freeways and suburbs so I wonder what will be the price of gas that gets them to slow down.
I conclude price increases is a form of rationing!
You seem to know our states 3 main interstates. Are you a fellow Oregonian, or just very knowledgeable, or did you just look on an atlas? Also, where is the info about fast drivers coming from?
You may be right. Heck, maybe that's cause we're the only NW state touching California.
In answer to your question, I don't know. Probably, for many folks, never. Or at least till the state patrol really starts cracking down.
Vic
He is hard-working, working a regular job and doing odd jobs on the weekends. Unfortunately he had a child with a woman once and pays child-support. He is remarried and has 2 kids. The family has a Chevy S-10, a van, and a car. They also have 2 horses they feed and a dog. Of course they spend a lot of time taking care of the horses and driving to where they're kept. He had health insurance (town employee) at a job, and then quit and went to a job without it. Now he has a $12K hospital bill.
Now these gas prices are causing them real hardship.
Kudos to those who realize they can conserve, and/or reduce other optional spending.
According to gasbuddy, a month ago the national average was 2.47, today it is 2.89. It's April 23rd...around 4 months to Labor Day, when the real gouge historically takes place. At that rate, the national average will be $4.50 or so, barring any unforseen hurricanes or attention-diverting wars.
me: Well you don't need an MBA. My sister-in-law starts businesses with minimal knowledge but hard-work. She started a business placing competer programmers for years, and when that field declines, she closed the business and now provides servers for functions, parties and conventions. She makes over a $100K/year and drives an Escalade. Anyone could be doing that (no degree needed). There's plenty of opportunity in the economy for those not sitting on their hands waiting for someone to give them a handout good paying job.
Here's a good way to save gas money, but is it worth it? http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/04/23/would_you_spend_14000_for_t- his_bike/
" and drives an Escalade"
You're not helping your case.
Government money can build a tram, but let highway expansion slide.
Going through my records this morning, I realized the highest I paid last year was $2.69, and that was just after Katrina.
Vic
Well, since the speed limit is 65 once you're out of Portland, no surprise you don't pass anyone.
Government money can build a tram, but let highway expansion slide.
Well, if OHSU had a campus in Gov't Camp, then they would have expanded the road years ago...or at least built a tram from downtown.
Vic
me: Well I've seen Vietnamese immigrant families who can't speak a word of English, become homeowners and business owners within a few years of coming here. Their driving used BMW's Lexuses, Mercedes, and Toyotas. It sounds preferable to working retail or fast-food for your primary job, and complaining as if you're forced to work there.
you: give big oil endless breaks and perks, ...
me: Again show some links to these perks. Are they more then the $90 billion in taxes I showed you that Exxon paid just last year? That does not include of course the additional taxes that their employees paid in income and property taxes, and the taxes on dividends to their stockholders. No wonder the government likes oil companies; I would too if I had someone generating $100B in taxes for me.
We can all just start our own business and work from home.
Check out companies like Melaleuca, Amway, Herbalife, ect..
There's many opportunities out there for all of you to start working from home so you don't have to commute to work at your dead end jobs.
Make the move today. Work from home. And quit your dead end job.
And as I have said many times before, those who benefit the most from the maintenance of the status quo need to pay the most to maintain it. Quit whining about taxes. I'm not asking.
Any ideas how long it will be until we hit $4/gal average? $5? Or will public outcry cause a retreat again? The peasants might soon light their torches and gather their pitchforks.
So that's partly why demand for gas is rising.
Gas in central VA this weekend: mostly $2.89 for 87, with a few places lower: Kangaroo at $2.83, sandwiched between BP and Chevron stations at $2.85.
Will regular gasoline cost $5 per gallon or $6+ per gallon?
I would like to know.