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Actually I'd rather go with the PSD.
But can't shell out the extra cash.
The V10 scares me alittle, I'm familiar with
V8's. I did notice that I seem to be the only
one getting the V8. But at the dealership were I
bought it (ordered it) Its seems most of the
SD's on the lot are 5.4 with 3.73 rear.
I did/do want the LSD in 3.73 w/5.4 but was told
can't be done. So I guess I'll have to go after
market. I really don't need the V10, because
I'll be towing and/or hauling basicly nothing.
I'm thinking that going dual catback exhaust w/
K&N filter may give me alittle more in the mpg
area. My Ram gets basicly 20 mpg highway.
I'd like the 3.73s as well. I've got 4.10s right now though, and 4.10s with a 5 speed work out the same as 4.30s with the auto so I'll probably just live with them. Its a lot cheaper to change ratios than to add the L/S in later, though, so you've probably got the right idea there.
As far as not needing the V10 I'd agree with you -- but is it going to be easy to sell the 5.4 in a few years when 90%+ of the trucks have the PSD or the V10? Just a thought.
value, other people have mentioned that also
but I "plan on" keeping this truck for a long
while. I also agree the the 5.4 felt alittle
under powered (especially compared to my Ram)
but I'm, not a racer anyway so.....
I just can't wait until the aftermarket catches
up so I can add on the toys!! LOL!!
It's just one test, but it was interesting. Someone on this site who, I believe, said he works for Ford indicated that the Ford V-10 was underpowered. Based on this test, it appears that the Ford V-10 actually has a performance advantage when compared to the Dodge V-10. If future tests have the same results, the initial speculation might be true about the Ford V-10 being more efficient, a little smoother and having better mpg. Better performance than the beefier Dodge V-10 is a nice bonus.
Any thoughts on why someone would get the V-10 vs. the Cummins? Other than wanting to stop at every gas station.
Unfortunately, no vehicle over 8500 GVWR has a fuel economy rating - it's not just Dodge. The EPA does not require the same emissions testing for vehicles over that GVWR, thus there's no mpg number from the test to use.
As for getting the 488 over the oil burner, the guys in my Ram club who have the tenpack buy it for driveability mostly, others don't have a diesel source nearby and/or one that is reasonably priced. If you've never driven a diesel, you have to get used to having a redline at the gasoline engine's torque peak, shifting very frequently if you have the stick, and some people just don't want to deal with the engine noise.
Me, I roll down the window to listen to my Cummins
I've been working on too many roofs lately and haven't been online in a while.
First, I replaced three water pumps in one truck. Tranny locked up in reverse in another two weeks ago and plates need replacement. I just hope she can be rebuilt! I don't need a new tranny bill. After scratching many mechanic's heads, we finally found the cause of the other 95 with its loss of power. After 65k, compression was slipping in two cylinders while the rings were scorched.
These are only the recent headaches with these Chevys. Remember that I own other trucks of all three makes? Well, the two oldest trucks which date back to the early 80's have cost us less than the three 95s. Those old trucks are Ford. I know I'll have to replace all three Chevys before those Fords are retired.
That is why I detest Chevy now. Their quality has stooped to Dodge's level and this is coming from an ex-Chevy truck guy. Once again, I need quality, not impressive spec numbers.
After about a six month experiment the company that I work for put a halt to all New Dodge purchases due to a 20 % failure rate on their Automatic transmissions.
I have no experience with Ford pickups as I can't even get close to them without getting sick to my stomach they are so ghastly looking.
We have almost the same Dodge Ram as a personal truck and the engine is still a guttless peice of garbage and no overdrive when it gets real cold but we haven't had any other trouble with it.
Mind you it never really leaves the pavement. We just ordered a new Ram 2500 Quad Cab 4X4 short box with the Cummins Deisel. Can hardly wait!!
Damn they're gorgeous pickups!!!
SaintJohn
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously a lot of people think the F-150 is good a looking truck. I started out with a lukewarm feeling when I first saw them, but they have grown on me. The 4wd version with the Off-Road package is awesome looking. But it doesn't sound like they will ever grow on you. I'm sure you've plenty of time to look at them......as they are passing you in O/D.....and 4wd..... while you're putting along on snowy roads.....in the cold weather.....in third gear......and 2wd......praying that nothing breaks down too far from the local garage.
Right on all counts Brutus!!!!!!
I got the Dodge disease man and I think it may be terminal. Chrysler pretty much has me right where they want me!! I used to think that I was way too smart for something like this to happen. WRONG.
I sure hope you're wrong about the truck falling to peices around the engine. Actually I should see if there is support group for people like me. (Hi.... my name is John and I'm buying my second new Dodge pickup.......).
As for the looks, the Dodge appearance is already getting old. Look for them to make some modifications in their MY2000 truck. I don't expect it to be drastic, but you should be able to differentiate it from the current model. A change will be good, even if it's not drastic. Like I've said before, at first, I wasn't too sure about the looks of the F-150. Now they have grown on me, especially the 4wd models. The SD is totally different monster. I've seen a few sitting next to Dodges, and the SD looks bigger and tougher. Just a personal opinion, of course.
Surely some of you are old enough to remember the "old slow binder". That is the Navistar. It is an International Harvester design that is at least 25 years old. That is not to say that there have been no improvements, but it is still a very dated design. If you buy a Ford PSD, you don't have to worry about the body falling apart around the engine; it will all go at once.
Thanks Wrangler2
Good Luck,
David
Rams need to be abused, if you don't your gonna have problems. They don't liked to be babied. Done lots of off roading whith this truck and has yet to flaw.
P.S best plow truck on the market, ford nor chev can do what a ram can!
just drive them hard, and have fun, they'll last a lot longer then you woild think.
IMO, I doubt you will ever see the F-Series in a list like that because they have such a large presence in the fleet market. Fleets abuse their trucks (necessarily), so that will always drive down the overall resale.
Malibu1
i disagree. do you KNOW that Fords have super high fleet use? I haven't seen numbers anywhere saying what percentage of a company's vehicles went to personal and what percentage went to fleet use. I see a lot of F350 (cuz of the diesel, mainly) used in fleets, but where half and 3/4 tons are used, i see GMs and Fords about the same, with a few Dodge trucks tossed in there. Local REA companies around here use strictly GMC 1 ton and 3/4 ton. a lot of the machine shops, mechanic shops, part distributors i see weekly, all have about equal GMs and Fords, if not more GMs. these are generally half ton and 3/4 ton trucks used for part runs, product deliveries, hauling and towing of equipment and other various run-around-town stuff. i haven't seen there being a significantly larger number of Fords in fleets at all.
I am skeptical of the statistics, though. first of all resale, IMO, is driven by demand more than by quality, but not overlooking quality as an issue. but how are those numbers compiled? same mileage vehicles? same region?
Look at the top 5 on the list, and they are all high demand vehicles that can't be sold fast enough.
Malibu1
Malibu1
And Ford has been using the 'we sell more cars in the galaxy" slogan for cars and trucks. I could care less that they sell more, does that make then better or make me want one......NO!!!! They sell more Contours and BMW sells 3 series cars too, but does that mean the a Contour in better than a Beemer???? NO? I could care less that you sell more trucks Ford, that doesn't mean they are any better, it just means that you won't have any trade in value. Ford and Dodge need to come up with other things to tout in their adds. Being the 'first' or selling the 'most' means nothing.
Malibu1
"Wow Harold, we better get the Dodge truck then since they were the very, genuine, top of the list, first ones to do that. That alomst made my decision for me!!"
"I agree Gladys, if they were the first to offer four doors then they have to be the best trucks, where's my checkbook....."
But then again I pay about as much attention to advertising as I do to political speeches.
The Chevy Silverado extended cab is larger than the F150 and the Dodge RAM. Finish your sentence Stanford. If you think for a minute the F150, Dodge Ram or F250 SD has a better rear bench seat then I suspect you all are suffering from a case of Chevy envy.
Actually, I think they're all fairly pathetic, which is why I drive a crew cab.
p.s. Chevy also uses things like resale value. That would help me buy a truck.
Malibu1