1960-65 MB 220SEb coupe is the designation. 17,000 of them made, so not really "rare" by Mercedes standards, in very nice shape worth maybe $25000, if beat up, deduct massively. These are very nice highway cruisers-- heavy GT type cars, not a sports car.
...white 1964 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu with period Cragars near the office at Hickory Run State Park in NE Pennsylvania. Also spotted a tan 1937 Chevrolet Master Deluxe sedan travelling south on the NE Extension of the PA Turnpike just south of the Lehigh Valley Exit and a white 1962 Ford Falcon Futura just north of the Lansdale Exit. I bet they were coming home from Macungie.
Spotted on I90 eastbound in Illinois yesterday - A woman on the cell phone driving a metallic pink colored Cadillac DTS. It had decal initials on the side, don't remember the initials. Did not have a padded roof nor white wall tires. I wonder if these Caddies will turn up as classics on the big auction shows in AZ someday.
Haven't seen it yet, but my grandmother's cousin just called me. One of her old lady friends has a nice-condition 1979 Buick that she wants to get rid of. She was thinking about just donating it, but grandma's cousin told her not to do anything until she talked to me.
Now, I have no idea what kind of Buick it is. My grandmother's cousin says it's a big car, 4-door, and the lady that owns it says it has "a big engine". She's going to call this lady back and find out more about it. Y'know, if this is a LeSabre or Electra with a 350 or 403, and I can get it for a reasonable price, I might be adding a new lovebarge to the fleet. But, watch it end up being a hunchback Century with a Buick 231. :sick:
That hatchback style flopped when it was introduced in '78, but it would be kind of neat to own one now. I can't remember the last time I saw a hatchback Century or Cutlass.
As for the 231 of that period, we've agreed on multiple occasions on this board that it was a problematic engine. But, the Century also could be had with the Chevy 305, which was a decent engine in '79.
That hatchback style flopped when it was introduced in '78, but it would be kind of neat to own one now. I can't remember the last time I saw a hatchback Century or Cutlass.
I see them at the Carlisle swap meets every once in awhile, and they occasionally pop up on eBay, but yeah, as daily drivers, they're pretty much ancient history. They are kinda neat, in an off-beat sort of way, but I dunno if I'd want one. Maybe if the thing was in pristine conditon, and well-equipped.
As for the 231 of that period, we've agreed on multiple occasions on this board that it was a problematic engine. But, the Century also could be had with the Chevy 305, which was a decent engine in '79.
Didn't a lot of Centurys also get the Pontiac 301, or was that mainly the Regal? I'm still fearful of the 301, but I have heard that as long as you keep up on maintenance and don't neglect or abuse them, they're not bad.
Still, I'm hoping for an Electra or LeSabre with a 403!
Yeah, sure, in an off-beat sort of way, since the styling on those cars is hardly aspirational. The notchbacks looked better, which is why I chose the '78 LeMans ( with the 305 and upgraded suspension). I think the '78/'79 Century and LeMans offered the 305 as an upgrade, while the 301 was the upgrade for the Regal and the Grand Prix. However, I'm not certain about these distinctions, or the engine possibilities for the Cutlass.
What color was that LeMans? I really didn't like the downsized style so much when it was new, although it's grown on my in more recent years. And I don't think my initial dislike was really any fault of the car itself. It's just that ever since I was a little kid, I had an almost un-natural lusting after the '76-77, that there's no way the downsized models could compare.
I think the '81 LeMans, with its quad headlights, and slicked back front-end vaguely reminiscent of a Trans Am, is pretty sharp looking, but by that time they were really dogged down. A Buick 231 was standard, with a Pontiac 265 optional. I saw one with a Buick 252 (4.1) V-6 once, so evidently that was offered too. Sadly, I think the 252 had more hp than the 265 V-8.
You could get a 301, but only if you got the wagon.
I haven't heard back from my grandmother's cousin yet, but I'm really curious about this '79 Buick her friend has! Probably won't find out until tomorrow.
Oh don't worry, I'd never do anything that tacky to a tasteful 70's car! About the most I might do is put on some factory sport rims, like those 5-spoke Magnums that were common on Buicks in that era. I also love the style of wheel that's on this Electra estate wagon:
But, watch it end up being a hunchback Century with a Buick 231. :sick:
LOL, A good friend of mine in HS had a 1980 Century with a 3.8 turbo. He didn't have it long as it never ran right, but I remember it handling well for the time. We had a tight 20 MPH S curve by our house and he managed to get a ticket doing 58 through it in that ugly Buick.
I remember it having 3 indicator lights for the turbo that IIRC were located on the lower part of the speedo. It was something like green, yellow, and OMG she's gonna blow. I don't know if the turbo ever actually worked, the lights would come on when you punched it, but we never heard any turbo wine and it certainly didn't push you back in the seat. Ugly car though.
Anyhow, if by some weird chance that Buick turns out to be a '79 to '80 Century with the turbo 3.8, I'd buy it if it's in decent shape. They are rare.
Yes that is a good looking wheel. I was pretty sure there wouldn't be any 22s on anything in your fleet. I am tired of the old "boats" getting this treatment. It seems as if every old Caprice I see has monster wheels on it.
When I was in high school, someone in town had a pristine aeroback "442"...this was in the early-mid 90s, and they were already quite uncommon. I actually thought it was a relatively cool car.
I had a '79 buick 231 from '78 to '91. 110 HP when new. 23 mpg on trips. sold in '91 for $1100 with working a/c, never a fluid leak, original exh sys with 175k on it. It was in a Monte Carlo. Engine and drivetrain work in 13 years: tighten neg cable to block. Engine had a slight tap from when new that never turned into anything. Stayed in right lane climbing hills.
I had an '82 Cutlass Supreme with a 231. Bought it used, in 1993, with only 61,000 miles on it, but I don't think it was all that well-maintained mechanically. Cosmetically it looked nice, except for the light jadestone paint starting to fade. Lost all oil pressure around 73,000 miles. One of my friends helped me put new gears in the oil pump, and that seemed to fix it somewhat, although there were metal shavings galore in the oil.
A few years later, I found out that most likely what was happening was the mesh timing chain or gear or whatever was starting to fail. Supposedly, if you replace them with a good old fashioned real metal part, they'll be fine. But, it was too late for mine. If the gears in the oil pump were that chewed up, I imagine the rest of the insides of that engine weren't too pretty.
That car wasn't all that fast from 0-60, but it was a good highway cruiser and seemed to catch its second wind at higher speeds. And it seemed to be pretty good at passing. Stomp on it at 45-50, and it would take off. And even around 70, if you punched it, it would go.
I'd usually get 22-23 mpg on the highway as well, and maybe 15-16 around town.
too bad you don't live closer...when you got rid of that Park Ave, I would've been more than happy to take it off your hands. Although I could see Lemko fighting me for it!
I still haven't heard anything back from my grandmother's cousin, but I'm going to call her when I get home from work. The lady who owns the car is thinking about just donating it, which is going to screw her. They changed the tax laws for donating a car a few years back, where you can't write off blue book value anymore, but rather, when the charity auctions it off, they send you a receipt stating what they got for it, and that's the figure you get to use.
I'd rather give her a fair price for a nice old car that I'd enjoy and appreciate, and we'd both get something out of it. She'd get a decent price, rather than a small tax write off, and I'd get another old mastodon to have fun with!
That's a nice looking old land yacht, refreshing to see that all of them weren't in period-trendy colors. I think Lemko once had something similar...no doubt he'd fight someone for that now.
Those cars have a handsome squared-off appeal...but I always thought those steering wheels looked odd somehow.
and got a little more info out of her, but not much. I got a reminder that I'm talking to women of a generation where the man did everything when it comes to cars. Anyway, my grandmother's cousin talked to this lady, and she says she thinks the car is a LeSabre, but not sure. I found out that this lady actually drives a van, and has a second car (not sure what) and then the LeSabre (or whatever it actually ends up being). The LeSabre's been in their family for years, but not driven much. After the husband died, it got driven even less. She might start it up every once in awhile, but that's about it.
Not sure what engine it has, but when I started to describe to my grandmother's cousin about the sticker on the radiator bracket that would say "5.7" or "350" or whatever, she just stopped me with "I doubt if she even knows how to open the hood!" At that point, I decided that trying to get her to find out the 5th number of the VIN would just lead to a confused "HUH?"
Anyway, in 1979, I think the LeSabre's engine choices were 231 Buick V-6, 301 2bbl Pontiac V-8, and 350-4bbl Buick V-8. The Olds 403 was still around as an Electra option, but I don't think they dropped it from the LeSabre lineup after 1978. It was probably still around in the wagon...can't remember if they called it LeSabre, Electra, or simply "Estate" wagon that year, as Buick tended to flip-flop around.
So, while I was really hoping for a 403 Electra, I guess I could still put up with a 350 LeSabre. If it's a 301 I might pass though...unless it looks like it's been very well maintained.
Oh, and I also haven't found out what color it is.
I think I found it! Gotta love bing maps and google maps and such, and the fact that old people tend to not get unlisted phone numbers! Anyway, I found her address online, looked it up on Bing, and took this snapshot...
So, it's white. Not my favorite choice, but, should last forever without fading! It's hard to tell from this pic, but it looks like it might be an Electra, after all! The rear window looks a bit too vertical to be a LeSabre.
I drove by that house on the way home from work, and it turns out it's just a 1979 Skylark. :sick: Now it kinda makes sense though, as one thing I noticed that was a bit odd about the picture above is that the hood just seemed long, in proportion to the rest of the car. And, on those '75-79 X-bodies, that's just how they were. Long hood, short greenhouse, and a medium-long trunk. Nice proportions, but it does make for a car that's small inside, given its overall length.
Anyway, the pic above is from Bing maps, and the reason it's pixellated is because I took a screen shot, zoomed in, and then took another screen shot. Googlemaps shows an overhead view, but unfortunately you can't see anything from the street view because there are too many trees and bushes in front of the house.
So, my interest in this car is starting to wane. Although I guess if it's really well-maintained, nicely equipped, and at least has a V-8, it might not be a bad car? I think that year they came standard with a Buick 231, and a Chevy 305 2-bbl was optional in the 49 states, while oddly, a 350-4bbl was optional in California! At least, that's what I make out from the old files on the EPA's website.
Kinda odd, that a 350-4bbl would pass California emissions, while a 305-2bbl wouldn't? :confuse:
You got me interested in Bing maps, so found my house. It was quite a tour to get there. I was amazed how few cars I could see, so I am not sure how old the views are, although it was in the fall or early spring. a 4bbl usually has smaller primaries than a 2bbl.
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The 70s-era SBC was a dirty engine in an emissions sense. That is what led to the infamous "Chevymobile" lawsuits by Olds owners in '77. The Olds 350 was in demand because it ran cleaner and GM was using it in various applications beyond Oldsmobiles. Apparently the EPA was OK with Chevy V-8s in a B-body car but not in others. Don't know why or how that worked.
The EPA site isn't showing an Olds 350 for the California Skylark though, it's showing a Chevy 350. And, that year, there was also a 305-4bbl, so I would think the 305-4bbl would run cleaner than the 350-4bbl?
That was a hectic time! My old car book is showing this for 1979 Buicks:
Pontiac 301-2bbl, 140 hp: standard V-8 for Century, Regal, LeSabre Pontiac 301-4bbl, 150 hp: optional for Century and Regal Chevy 305-2bbl, 130 hp: standard V-8 for Skylark Chevy 305-4bbl, 155 hp: optional on Century and Regal (substitute for the 301 on California cars) Buick 350-4bbl, 155 hp: Standard on Electra and Estate wagon, optional on LeSabre Chevy 350-4bbl, 165 hp: optional on Skylark (california) Olds 350-4bbl, 170 hp: standard on Riviera, replacement for Buick 350 in CA LeSabres, Electras, Estate wagons Olds 403-4bbl, 185 hp: optional on Electra and Estate wagon
So, I guess along with the Pontiac 301 and 350/400, the Buick 350 was also deemed too dirty for California?
The California Skylark 350/4bbl listed in your book was probably the 350 LM-1 with CA emissions pkg.
When GM first began offering V-8 engines for the H-body Monza I think there was a Chevy 350/2bbl engine certified only for CA and High Altitude delivery in place of the smaller 49-state-certified V-8. That must have been fun to drive in the rain with, what, 13 inch wheels and tires?
So what's the plan for the Mystery Buick? Going to have a look at it?
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So what's the plan for the Mystery Buick? Going to have a look at it?
I dunno...once I saw it was a Skylark and not a LeSabre or Electra, I sort of lost interest. Which is a shame, because it could be a very nice little car. I guess it couldn't hurt to go look at it. If it's a 305/THM350 setup, it should be pretty durable. Maybe not quite to the level of a 318/Torqueflite, but then the GM car wouldn't have the Lean Burn crap to contend with, and probably better engine management systems in general.
The last thing I need is another car, but sometimes I do take sort of a "lost puppy" approach to them, where I feel a need to take them in simply because nobody else wants them.
And in the better trim levesl, those X-bodies could be really nice inside. Oh, I happened to drive by that house again today, and noticed what the other cars were...a recent GM minivan (back facing the street, so I couldn't tell which one) and a first-gen Buick LaCrosse. So, I guess this was a GM family, through and through!
Yeah, watch the danged thing end up having a 231. :sick: The 231, for all its faults, was pretty efficient for the time, so I think it was pretty common in these cars. One saving grace for the competing Aspen/Volare, I guess, was that the slant six wasn't much more efficient than the 318, so a lot of people just went ahead and got theV-8.
For some reason, it seems like a goodly amount of Granadas and Monarchs ended up with the 302, versus the 6, as well. But with those GM X-bodies, while a lot of Novas seemed to get a 305 or even a 350, for some reason, the Skylark, Phoenix/Ventura, and Omega usually ended up with a 6-cyl or undersized V-8.
As for the Granadas and Monarchs, I think the reason so many buyers opted for the 302 was that the 250 I-6 was a real dog in those cars. By contrast, the 200 I-6 in the Fairmont/Zephyr yielded acceptable performance for its day. I don't know why that is, since I imagine the power-to-weight for the Granada/Monarch was probably similar to the Fairmont/Zephyr. Maybe the gearing had something to do with it.
I spotted one of these things in the local Craigslist ads last week. Went to look at it Friday evening, and, it was really nice for the money. While it needs a little bit of work, its in really nice shape with a fresh paint job, new interior, and no rust underneath. While not much of a performer with its 62 year old 6 banger, it ran like a clock. Anyway - I called the guy this evening and we agreed on a price. Monday night - It'll be in my garage. I had a fat fender while in high school back in the mid 60's, and, now, I'm going to play with a car was built when I was a 2 year old.
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Found a post for a two-tone Fleetmaster in the Columbus CL and a sharp street rod Fleetmaster in the Utica area. Looks like fun stuff...post some pics after it comes home. :shades:
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There's a stretch of state highway near my house on which there are a couple of old Fords advertised for sale:
-1965 Fairlane 500 coupe in very good condition w 302 badging. It looks somewhat sporty but a little fussy with it's T-Bird style h/t and fender skirts (?). No price indicated.
-1970 Ford Galaxie convertible in average condition with faded white paint and ugly aftermarket alloys. Convertible top appears intact; asking $6950 which seems a bit ambitious as car needs restoration.
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Sounds like a Mary Kay vehicle. There is a Mary Kay pink Saturn VUE here in town that I see from time to time.
Now, I have no idea what kind of Buick it is. My grandmother's cousin says it's a big car, 4-door, and the lady that owns it says it has "a big engine". She's going to call this lady back and find out more about it. Y'know, if this is a LeSabre or Electra with a 350 or 403, and I can get it for a reasonable price, I might be adding a new lovebarge to the fleet. But, watch it end up being a hunchback Century with a Buick 231. :sick:
As for the 231 of that period, we've agreed on multiple occasions on this board that it was a problematic engine. But, the Century also could be had with the Chevy 305, which was a decent engine in '79.
I see them at the Carlisle swap meets every once in awhile, and they occasionally pop up on eBay, but yeah, as daily drivers, they're pretty much ancient history. They are kinda neat, in an off-beat sort of way, but I dunno if I'd want one. Maybe if the thing was in pristine conditon, and well-equipped.
As for the 231 of that period, we've agreed on multiple occasions on this board that it was a problematic engine. But, the Century also could be had with the Chevy 305, which was a decent engine in '79.
Didn't a lot of Centurys also get the Pontiac 301, or was that mainly the Regal? I'm still fearful of the 301, but I have heard that as long as you keep up on maintenance and don't neglect or abuse them, they're not bad.
Still, I'm hoping for an Electra or LeSabre with a 403!
I think the '81 LeMans, with its quad headlights, and slicked back front-end vaguely reminiscent of a Trans Am, is pretty sharp looking, but by that time they were really dogged down. A Buick 231 was standard, with a Pontiac 265 optional. I saw one with a Buick 252 (4.1) V-6 once, so evidently that was offered too. Sadly, I think the 252 had more hp than the 265 V-8.
You could get a 301, but only if you got the wagon.
I haven't heard back from my grandmother's cousin yet, but I'm really curious about this '79 Buick her friend has! Probably won't find out until tomorrow.
Would be sweet if it was a two door Electra......
Just don't do this to it! With some normal wheels, this example would be really nice.
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LOL, A good friend of mine in HS had a 1980 Century with a 3.8 turbo. He didn't have it long as it never ran right, but I remember it handling well for the time. We had a tight 20 MPH S curve by our house and he managed to get a ticket doing 58 through it in that ugly Buick.
I remember it having 3 indicator lights for the turbo that IIRC were located on the lower part of the speedo. It was something like green, yellow, and OMG she's gonna blow. I don't know if the turbo ever actually worked, the lights would come on when you punched it, but we never heard any turbo wine and it certainly didn't push you back in the seat. Ugly car though.
Anyhow, if by some weird chance that Buick turns out to be a '79 to '80 Century with the turbo 3.8, I'd buy it if it's in decent shape. They are rare.
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I had no idea that even existed. I thought the turbo 3.8 was limited to the Regal.
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Me either, until my friend bought one back in '88 or '89. It think it was called a Century Turbo Coupe and they were made from '77-80 I think.
A few years later, I found out that most likely what was happening was the mesh timing chain or gear or whatever was starting to fail. Supposedly, if you replace them with a good old fashioned real metal part, they'll be fine. But, it was too late for mine. If the gears in the oil pump were that chewed up, I imagine the rest of the insides of that engine weren't too pretty.
That car wasn't all that fast from 0-60, but it was a good highway cruiser and seemed to catch its second wind at higher speeds. And it seemed to be pretty good at passing. Stomp on it at 45-50, and it would take off. And even around 70, if you punched it, it would go.
I'd usually get 22-23 mpg on the highway as well, and maybe 15-16 around town.
That was quite the car: loose-pillow baby-blue velour interior, 403 V-8, mint. Rode like a true land yacht.
I love the dashboard on these:
If it is anything like this one was, I can heartily recommend them as a neat car to drive and own.
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I still haven't heard anything back from my grandmother's cousin, but I'm going to call her when I get home from work. The lady who owns the car is thinking about just donating it, which is going to screw her. They changed the tax laws for donating a car a few years back, where you can't write off blue book value anymore, but rather, when the charity auctions it off, they send you a receipt stating what they got for it, and that's the figure you get to use.
I'd rather give her a fair price for a nice old car that I'd enjoy and appreciate, and we'd both get something out of it. She'd get a decent price, rather than a small tax write off, and I'd get another old mastodon to have fun with!
Those cars have a handsome squared-off appeal...but I always thought those steering wheels looked odd somehow.
Not sure what engine it has, but when I started to describe to my grandmother's cousin about the sticker on the radiator bracket that would say "5.7" or "350" or whatever, she just stopped me with "I doubt if she even knows how to open the hood!" At that point, I decided that trying to get her to find out the 5th number of the VIN would just lead to a confused "HUH?"
Anyway, in 1979, I think the LeSabre's engine choices were 231 Buick V-6, 301 2bbl Pontiac V-8, and 350-4bbl Buick V-8. The Olds 403 was still around as an Electra option, but I don't think they dropped it from the LeSabre lineup after 1978. It was probably still around in the wagon...can't remember if they called it LeSabre, Electra, or simply "Estate" wagon that year, as Buick tended to flip-flop around.
So, while I was really hoping for a 403 Electra, I guess I could still put up with a 350 LeSabre. If it's a 301 I might pass though...unless it looks like it's been very well maintained.
Oh, and I also haven't found out what color it is.
So, it's white. Not my favorite choice, but, should last forever without fading! It's hard to tell from this pic, but it looks like it might be an Electra, after all! The rear window looks a bit too vertical to be a LeSabre.
No, No, I think he's in the trunk!
You really kept to the title and topic of the discussion: you "spotted" a classic!
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Anyway, the pic above is from Bing maps, and the reason it's pixellated is because I took a screen shot, zoomed in, and then took another screen shot. Googlemaps shows an overhead view, but unfortunately you can't see anything from the street view because there are too many trees and bushes in front of the house.
So, my interest in this car is starting to wane. Although I guess if it's really well-maintained, nicely equipped, and at least has a V-8, it might not be a bad car? I think that year they came standard with a Buick 231, and a Chevy 305 2-bbl was optional in the 49 states, while oddly, a 350-4bbl was optional in California! At least, that's what I make out from the old files on the EPA's website.
Kinda odd, that a 350-4bbl would pass California emissions, while a 305-2bbl wouldn't? :confuse:
It was quite a tour to get there. I was amazed how few cars I could see, so I am not sure how old the views are, although it was in the fall or early spring.
a 4bbl usually has smaller primaries than a 2bbl.
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That was a hectic time! My old car book is showing this for 1979 Buicks:
Pontiac 301-2bbl, 140 hp: standard V-8 for Century, Regal, LeSabre
Pontiac 301-4bbl, 150 hp: optional for Century and Regal
Chevy 305-2bbl, 130 hp: standard V-8 for Skylark
Chevy 305-4bbl, 155 hp: optional on Century and Regal (substitute for the 301 on California cars)
Buick 350-4bbl, 155 hp: Standard on Electra and Estate wagon, optional on LeSabre
Chevy 350-4bbl, 165 hp: optional on Skylark (california)
Olds 350-4bbl, 170 hp: standard on Riviera, replacement for Buick 350 in CA LeSabres, Electras, Estate wagons
Olds 403-4bbl, 185 hp: optional on Electra and Estate wagon
So, I guess along with the Pontiac 301 and 350/400, the Buick 350 was also deemed too dirty for California?
When GM first began offering V-8 engines for the H-body Monza I think there was a Chevy 350/2bbl engine certified only for CA and High Altitude delivery in place of the smaller 49-state-certified V-8. That must have been fun to drive in the rain with, what, 13 inch wheels and tires?
So what's the plan for the Mystery Buick? Going to have a look at it?
I dunno...once I saw it was a Skylark and not a LeSabre or Electra, I sort of lost interest. Which is a shame, because it could be a very nice little car. I guess it couldn't hurt to go look at it. If it's a 305/THM350 setup, it should be pretty durable. Maybe not quite to the level of a 318/Torqueflite, but then the GM car wouldn't have the Lean Burn crap to contend with, and probably better engine management systems in general.
The last thing I need is another car, but sometimes I do take sort of a "lost puppy" approach to them, where I feel a need to take them in simply because nobody else wants them.
And in the better trim levesl, those X-bodies could be really nice inside. Oh, I happened to drive by that house again today, and noticed what the other cars were...a recent GM minivan (back facing the street, so I couldn't tell which one) and a first-gen Buick LaCrosse. So, I guess this was a GM family, through and through!
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For some reason, it seems like a goodly amount of Granadas and Monarchs ended up with the 302, versus the 6, as well. But with those GM X-bodies, while a lot of Novas seemed to get a 305 or even a 350, for some reason, the Skylark, Phoenix/Ventura, and Omega usually ended up with a 6-cyl or undersized V-8.
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Found a post for a two-tone Fleetmaster in the Columbus CL and a sharp street rod Fleetmaster in the Utica area. Looks like fun stuff...post some pics after it comes home. :shades:
-1965 Fairlane 500 coupe in very good condition w 302 badging. It looks somewhat sporty but a little fussy with it's T-Bird style h/t and fender skirts (?). No price indicated.
-1970 Ford Galaxie convertible in average condition with faded white paint and ugly aftermarket alloys. Convertible top appears intact; asking $6950 which seems a bit ambitious as car needs restoration.
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