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http://www.dallasobserver.com/2002-09-26/culture/dead-on/
As for the Mercedes 600, it was a technological tour de force, no doubt about it, but was a car of bewildering complexity.
True, but the 600 "Pullman" has to be the coolest long-wheelbase limo ever made. :shades:
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=13836
I have a distaste for the site's title, but others have told this same story. There are a zillion JFK stories out there and I've heard most of them.
Although Oswald's actions before and after the assassination clearly show guilt to some degree, one does wonder about the ear-witness testimony. I've been to the site and it does seem a perfect place to attempt to do something like that...that fence goes on a looonnngggg way, and the fence pickets are high and when I was there, the trees above were low. Interesting stuff in my lifetime, that is one thing that is indisputable.
I've driven a couple of Mercedes 600s, both Pullman and the regular-sized "sedan". It was amazing how these monstrous cars handled and accelerated, for their size.
Oddly enough, the driver's position for the Pullman is incredibly cramped! :surprise:
There's certainly B.S. sprouting from many an Edmunds post, that is for certain as well.
I wonder what the overall length of that sucker would be?
Some of that history is a bit too conspiracy based, but it is somewhat interesting that the debut of the car and MB really jumping into the modern era with a V8 coincides with the end of Camelot.
I was alive then but not very aware, but that general time period is so interesting to me. I think with JFK's assassination, and the demise of Studebaker's U.S. operations (for me), then the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and the introduction of the Mustang all showed just how much change there was in such a relatively short period of time. It seems like styles and haircuts in my lifetime can generally be linked to "pre-11/22/63" and 'post'. Even pop music of the early '60's is similar to late '50's IMHO.
Via this, I see my fintail as much more of a late 50s style product, even though it was built in the 60s and has very modern tech for the period. The look is 50s.
But other "trends" were a total surprise to almost everyone, and those remain the most interesting to me.
But I think you guys are right--it was a cultural "shucking off" of the old, and an ushering in of everything modern--it was the ACTUAL "post world war II" world, come to life.
Beatnick to Hippie, Doo-Wop to the British Invasion, land yachts to muscle cars, segregation to integration, hot war to cold war, the foreign car invasion :shades: ----wow, what a decade!
Disturbingly enough, the old sales brochure picture that's shows the airport limos is showing them sporting the standard 14" Pontiac hubcaps, which my '67 Catalina used to have, before I swapped out to the 15" Rally 2's.
I've heard that they don't make 14" radial tires big enough to support the weight of some of these heavier cars, although the old bias ply could. So, as a result, you had to put on a 15" rim so you could put on a larger tire that could support the weight. So, I guess at some point the old 14" rims on this airport limo were swapped out in favor of 15", so they could put radials on it.
Still, I imagine even a 15" radial might be hard-pressed to withstand the weight of this mammoth beast. I wonder how much that sucker weighs? And, what its GVWR would be?
Funny thing, my fintail has little 13" wheels - I suspect these were chosen to compensate for the low torque engines (the car is light) and maybe to make the car look larger than it is.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I can't say I love the roofline, but I like that it's something not often seen, and I love the originality/authentic details/color.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-DeVille-4-Window-Sedan-Ville-1961Cadilla- c-Flattop-de-Ville-Fontana-Rose-67K-orig-CA-Car-A-C-/121042644861?pt=US_Cars_Tru- cks&hash=item1c2eb42f7d
A '61-62 Caddy is one of the cars I want to have before I die. Preferably a '62 though. I thought they really sorted out the details just right that year, plus, IMO at least, much improved rooflines for the hardtop coupe and the 4-window hardtop sedan,
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
iswas the real deal. C code 460 PI ordered in a Galaxie 2-door hardtop. Strange old thing.Somehow, it's appropriate that that car is in Hollywood. I can just see someone living on the same street as Jane and Blanche Hudson driving it! LOL
The whole '61 GM lineup reminds me of the Jetsons...the cars were made a bit shorter, and typically the wildness tamed down. The '62's were made more conservative. I also like '62 Caddys, especially the Fleetwood. I used to see a '62 Eldo at Hershey, black with a butterscotch-accented chrome trim piece on the side, which matched the interior color.
certainly a unique piece, but in that condition, and I assume lack of replacement parts, goingt o be incredibly hard and expensive to restore, and you still end up with an old police car!
maybe the engine, even not running and needing a full rebuild, is that valuable?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Most 1961 cars are kind of in the middle of metamorphosis - an awkward stage. Some (Chevy) handle it better than others (Caddy). You can see the vestiges of the 60s pushing through, but there's still a lot of 50s hanging on. Ford and Mopar cars are similar, save for full on 60s cars like a Continental. Mopar was probably the worst in that regard.
Regarding that Ford police car - I wonder if it is a sole survivor, or something like 1 of 2 remaining. That coupled with it being a beast, and a police car, might get someone wanting to save it.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
The 'Jetsons' analogy I used is largely due to the glassy greenhouses at GM that year. Reminded of the 'cars' they used in the Jetsons.
I think that car is jewel-like, if that can be used accurately.
Hard to compare with a Continental - it's a matter of personal taste. The Continental is a leap towards mid 60s modernism, bypassing the optimistic Jetsons style. A more space-age Ford would be a cigar 'Bird.
You couldn't turn a beater Caddy into a nice one for that bid, or even the buy-it-now. It's an unloved bodystyle (I guess it's the last version of the "flat top" roof), so it won't sell for the high price, but it should bring something.
I'm smitten with this Caddy!
Then, there was the 60 Special, which had a thick C-pillar, and a quarter window built into the trailing edge of the back door. I can't remember if it was on a longer wheelbase than the regular Caddies or not.
Next, throw in the convertible and coupe models, and the Fleetwood 75 limo, and Caddy had it all over Lincoln in choices.
Oh, and I almost forgot the stubby Town Sedan, which was 7" shorter than the regular models (215" versus 222"), which I think only came with the 6-window roof.
I like both the Lincoln and the Caddy that year, but if forced to choose, I'd definitely go with the Caddy. Just a personal preference.
http://bez-auto-alchemy.blogspot.com/2012_01_01_archive.html
Here's a '62 'Vette I just love--probably my favorite color too (I love how the rear end foreshadows the Sting Ray, although not visible here):
http://photos.aaca.org/showimage.php?i=6243&catid=509
Series 62:
6 window hardtop sedan: 26,216
4 window hardtop sedan: 4,700
6 window Town sedan: 3,756
DeVille:
6 window: 26,415
4 window: 4,847
60 special sedan: 15,500.
So, those 4-window "flattops" weren't too popular.
In the Chevy world, I could like a '62 Bel Air bubbletop, and not even with a 409 like it seems most one sees now have.
No kidding. I can't stand the C5 from the rear, especially on the convertible or the coupe with the small roof--it has a fat a**!
I was surprised to see in a brochure photo online, that Cadillac even referred to the cars as 'Short Deck'. Never knew that before.