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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552're thinking pre-1981. GM re-skinned all their intermediate personal-luxury coupes for 1981, making them more aerodynamic and giving them flush-mounted opera window glass. The '81-88 Montes all looked pretty-much alike, except for the '86-88 LS model, which had composite headlights.

    The '78-80 Montes were still the same size, but a bit more curvaceous and over-styled.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    ...seeing one of those early I-Marks. I could see the similarity to the Chevette around the windshield/cowl area, which is usually the most expensive area to differentiate on a car. Much, much nicer car than the Chevettes we got foisted upon us,though!
  • The sad thing is that the whole "similarities" game was not uncommon.

    The Euro Ford Granada and US Ford Granada looked a lot a like, except that the former was boxier (which pointed the way for the Fox-based Granada later). They shared nothing in common, different engines, different interiors, etc. but they looked similar and may have shared some parts.

    The Vauxhall Chevette looked a lot like a Chevy Chevette, but was a different car.

  • magnetophone-

    Yeah, the '78-80 Monte Carlos and '78-81 Buick Centurys (RWD) are becoming pretty rare. I kind of like that generation of Montes, though the '78-81 Centurys were one of the uglier versions of that nameplate in my opinion. The FWD Century came out for 1982. All of the FWD A-bodies are pretty rare in 2-door versions. I saw a 2-door 1984? Century recently, though it was in somewhat poor condition.

    As for Parisiennes and Caprices, well, I see a Parisienne almost every day :-) and I find that I still see a good number of all the '77-90 B-body wagons (though the Parisienne is the rarest). People keep them running, because they know you can't buy anything like them anymore.

    -Andrew L
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552 the '77-81 Pontiac Catalina. Pontiac, and, to a lesser extent, Buick, didn't have nearly the success with the downsized B-bodies that Olds and Chevy did. Whereas Buick and Olds put all the trim levels under either the LeSabre or Delta 88 nameplate, Pontiac and Chevy still fielded two different models: Impala and Caprice for Chevy and Catalina and Bonneville for Pontiac.

    Traditionally, Impala and Catalina were the volume sellers, but as buyers demanded more upscale cars, the Caprice and Bonneville began outselling their cheaper counterparts starting in '77. The downsized Catalina peaked its first year, at about 46,000 units, and went downhill from there. In '81, they only moved about 10,000 or so, compared to around 90,000 Bonnevilles.

    '77-81 Catalina 2-door coupes are especially rare. Now that doesn't mean everybody go hoarding them, now! It just means they weren't popular when new. I'd love to have a '77 Catalina coupe with a 400 or 403, though!
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306
    ...had a 1977 Bonneville. It was quite an attractive car. He also had a rather beat 1972 Catalina. Boy, that car was huge!
  • I spotted a 2-door Chevy Vega wagon at lunch!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    ...I knew a guy with a '72 Catalina hardtop coupe. At one point he needed to sell it, and was asking something like $800. He only paid $400 for it, and hadn't put any work into it.

    At one point he asked me if I'd be interested, since he knows I love old cars. I would've been, except for the fact I had too many already!

    Well, he ended up "trading" the car for 8 E-pills (which I think is a street value of $200). When I found out he did that, I reamed him out! Not only over the whole drug thing, but if I knew he was gonna let it go that cheap I would've bought it!!
  • E-pills? Ecstasy? Wow, Maryland must be a cheap place ;)
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    ...but what do they go for, in other locales?
  • I don't either, but that sounds cheaper compared to here.

    These are obscure cars, but I didn't spot them anywhere but on

    Go take a look folks... three new awesome Euro-market convertibles... the Ford StreetKa, the Peugeot 307 CC (hardtop roof), and the Citroen Pluriel.
  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    ...though a friend's (now ex, understandably) boyfriend gave his car (an '88 Mazda 323 wagon, which are very hard to find) to a crack dealer over a $50 debt. Very depressing.

    Yesterday, I saw a '67 Chrysler 300 convertible (1594 produced). It's been sitting on various streets in my neighborhood lately.
  • Hey I know someone with a 5-door Mercury Tracer hatchback. It's actually very well-built and would have been a decent Golf alternative for the time,
  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    My dad had a Tracer, it lasted about 250k miles, replaced by an Escort that went about 300k (my dad and stepmom are Engineers/Solar energy consultants, and thus travel a lot). Of course, both had Mazda engines.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306
    ...was a 1991 Tracer. She had it for 107,000 miles and then traded it for the Impala.
  • I saw an old subaru today...easily something from the 70's...possibly even 60's. When I first saw it I thought it was an old Austin. But I read the back and it said subaru. The model started with a 3, and was 3 digits, but I didnt get the rest.

    WHAT IS IT??
  • and spotted a Chrysler New Yorker from the mid-80's (I think). Looked like a stretched K-Car. It had the badge on the side for a turbo. It was in mint condition including the carriage lights and vinyl roof. The paint looked original and the body had no rust. Not the most attractive vehicle, but I was impressed it was in such good shape. My wife had a K-Car she inherited from her aunt during college and you had to put your foot over a hole in the wheel well during a rainstorm to keep the water from coming in. Unfortunately there were too many other holes to worry about!

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  • Saw another Brat today, this time for sale in front of a farm house. Is brown with a with stripe...very interesting...
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 20,575
    If the Subie you saw was tiny (original Mini-sized)it was likely a Subaru 360, so called because they had a 360cc engine.

    They were imported into the US by Malcolm Bricklin who imagined they'd be the solution to the oil shock of 1973 (the first of several losers advocated by Bricklin).

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Then came Yugo, then came ZMW!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    ...what does that come out to, in cubic inches...about 20 CID or so?
  • I just took a walk around town and saw two weird cars:

    1976 Pontiac Astre: It was actually running, and looked to be in good original condition.

    1998 Nissan Sentra Base: This is the model with black bumpers and 13" steel wheels with no covers. As I recall, these also had no radio and no A/C. I can't imagine that more than a few hundred of them were ordered.

    -Andrew L
  • Today I saw a yellow Checker stretch limo(probably about 10 feet) with wrinklewalls in the back and a blower in the front!
  • tariktarik Posts: 344
    ...I witnessed a Neon doing the 1/4 mile in 6.94s @ 200.3 mph! Cute, I want one too, but maybe WITH mufflers... :-O

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    What happened when it hit bottom after falling off the 1/4 mile high cliff?
  • I am spending the week in Juarez, Mexico. Every old car that anybody in the US ever had is alive and well traveling the streets of Juarez! I saw the 63 Fury III my dad made us ride to Florida in all through the 60s. I saw the 66 New Yorker. I saw the 70 Duece & a Quarter. I saw the mid 80s Omega. If you spend two weeks in it on vacation as a kid, IT IS HERE NOW! It almost makes it worth coming here.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    Maybe when you were a kid. I'll need to go to Havana to see all the cruising '53 Buicks, etc. that I grew up with :-)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Anyone ever see a Railton? Friends and I are working on a 1937.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    ...wasn't the Railton a Hudson built for export markets? Something akin to what Chrysler did with the DeSoto Diplomat?
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306 Alfa-Romeo GTV6 2.5 parked at the edge of the parking lot at work today. When did Alfa-Romeo produce these cars?
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