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Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems
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They have yet to call me.
When i called them back, I was given the name of the person who was assigned the case. I was assured he would call me. Well, numerous more calls by me,and a detailed fax, yet, no one has called back. The different people who I spoke top took varying levels of interest from very sympathetic to total disinterest. One person told me that in fact they contacted the repair shop and were told that the transmission was replaced in 2002 and I have not been back there for two years. He would not believe me when I told them him that i was in fact at that shop four days earlier with the same problem and they again told me I needed a transmission. He also stated that they had earlier called the wrong repair shop who stated that I was there 4 months earlier
I told the customer rep, why didn't anyone call me so i can clarify the misinformation., I was assured that I would get a call back. I am still waiting.
This is frustrating and would hope that a Toyota Sienna will have less aggravation.
I fail to understand why my 88 accord has to be more reliable then a 2000 Odyssey., or, Why customer service is apparently as efficient as the transmission on my Odyssey!
I have an 00 Ody. I noticed it "lurching' at slower speeds. Dealer checked it and says no tranny problem... This weekend I noticed (after a long road trip) that when I accelerated the rpms went WAY up and my car wouldn't shift, then immediately shifted and lurched forward. The check engine light came on. I drove it this way for several miles. The problem goes away at high speeds (55+) then when I drive at lower speeds, the same problem - won't shift, hight rpms, lurching. When I put it in 2nd gear, it's okay.
I'm going to insist (on Monday) that this IS a transmission problem that needs attention. Does anyone know if these are classic sypmptoms of a tranny problem? This 00 Ody is my first automatic car in over 20 years. I know when the clutch fails...but transmissions are new to me!
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Good luck.
Alland
Here is what I know so far! (From what I've read)
- Bad transmissions from 1999 - 2004. Make sure previous owner has taken care of sched maint. and see if they have actually done the trans job yet or not!
(If I am driving one, what shouold I do to see if the trans. symptom is there?)
- Faulty electric door locks on 1999 & 2000? ANy more info?
- Anything else I should look out for if testing one out?
Many Thanks,
Antonio (^_^)
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Good luck!
Go read some of his posts and see what you think - is his stuff legit?
Steve, Host
I have to wonder how Honda management feels about his loose lips especially when related to upcoming new product.
I'm only at 35K miles and plan to take it in soon. Anyone in the Houston area had this looked at before and able to recommend a dealer that won't give me a hard time?
Steve, Host
My guess is after the recall today the above msg should exclude "won't".
I sold Hondas years ago and at this moment own a 2003 Odyssey.....I'm a die hard fan of Honda...now I am considering going with the Sienna......I just won't go thru this tranny thing....that's why I didn't buy Chrysler.
I do not question the fact that some people have had these problems but they are in the small minority of owners.
Why haven't these problems occurred in these vehicles owned by people I know?
If this had been GM or Chrysler, the problem would have been complained about by every Tom, Dick, and Harry in every magazine.
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But, unlike Chrysler/Ford, Honda took care of their customers. Even for issuing the ABS recall for early 90s Vans, Chrysler had to be forced by NHTSA. That's not the case with Honda although they only have 10 severe failures on vehicles with very high mileage. If the so called big three are looked upon differently by many, they only have themselves to blame.
I'm glad, however, that Honda recognizes a problem and has stepped up to the plate to take care of their customers. Hopefully they can get this behind them.
tabbeanboo,
What's to say that your new Sienna won't have problems of it's own? No car is immune from problems.
So you are going to lose $1,000's trading an essentially new van for another one because of a potential transmission problem the manufacturer has admitted to and is offering to fix?? How will you feel when a tranny recall comes out for your new Sienna??
Steve, Host
"patch job" If that patch job gets you to 7-10 years on your tranny....do you really care?
And who is to say that you will get 7-10 years with this so called fix!
Honda stepped up to the plate, but will the fix be a hit or a foul ball?
I love this forum....we all do our homework...we need not kid ourselves though..this tranny problem has been going on since 1999...that's 5 years now and that IMHO is way to long to not come up with a fix. Honda is a better company that this. My question at this point is will honda use the same tranny in the 2005?
People who buy a used Odyssey are MUCH more likely to get an Odyssey with transmission problems than those who buy their Odyssey new.
Most owners keep a good vehicle but trade off one with problems.
The latest recall is on the 5 speed auto which was introduced on 2002 models. It appears to be a design problem as opposed to a manufacturing problem. This accounts for the recall approach instead of the previous warranty extension.
In either case, it is a concern, but to say that auto reviewers will ignore the problem because it is a Honda is ridiculous. Consumers Reports is the one to watch as they mix product performance with reliabilty history to rank vehicles. Most other publications only look at the vehicle and let the owner decide for themselves on reliability.
If Honda brass and their obnoxious zone reps learn a little humility from all this, then maybe there is a silver lining after all!
At 68K miles om my 99 Odyssey, my transmission went out. Mine was built after the "bad parts from a supplier story" from Honda about the 99 model year. Honda covered my rebuilt transmission. It took 2 other bad transmissions being shipped to my dealer and 21 days to get it done.
At the time, Honda did not include the 99's in their 100K mile warranty extension. I was quoted $6000 plus labor for a transmission by my dealer. I figured that Honda was not going to pay me for a second bad transmission, so I traded it in 2 weeks later.
BTW the dealer had my battery disconnected so long, the radio needed to be programmed with a code., They told me I was on my own for that.
. Fortunately, I kept that information in a folder.
You may want to check that you have that number when your transmission fails..
The reason for the recall is that the transmission may lock up in a different failure mode than previous failures. This could be life threatening. Imagine a transmission lock up at 65 MPH on an Interstate.
I don't think that most of us have to worry about something like that happening, the chances are small according to Honda.
I would tend to agree with that statement if what I heard last night over dinner is true from a neighbor. He had indicated he read in some other publication (trying to find out where) that the recall was rooted in issues arising from towing heavy loads within the realm of the manufacturers specification (he didn't say if it was the Pilot or the Odyssey). Probably just a few percent of Odyssey owners pull loads of any signficance since few have the tow package on them.
I happen to have bought the vehicle with the full intention of pulling a 3000# boat and trailer on the highway and I am rather concerned. Having a tranny drop to 1st or lockup is bad enough with just the van on the highway, but absolutely a disaster when pulling an additional load (almost twice the momentum).
Got to wonder how the patch will work for a externally cooled transmission that comes with the trailer package - will there be an interaction?
I'm sure some red faced engineers have spent a lot of long hours on this one.
Are any made in USA or Canada?
Thanks for the info.
robsdad
Making the coolant flow a different way is a patch in my book. Replacing the transmission outright is the fix for best long term reliability, which is what the folks who own the vehicle would probably want. Actually, just extending the warranty to 7 yr/100k would satisfy my concerns, but obviously, the problem is probably serious enough that the cost to do that was financially too much for Honda and a lower cost "patch" was selected in its place (get them to 36k miles, then the consumer is on his own without the extended warranty).
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Steve, Host
I seriously doubt Honda would risk their reputation by using a short term "patch" just to get it past it's warranty period.
You are making some negative assumptions here.
I would bet the vast majority of owners will experience no problems anyway.
If you are an engineer, then you should know that there is no such thing as 100% resolution to a mechanical problem for all potential applications, past, present, and future (you teach at a university?).
If the Honda engineers think the problem is adequate lubrication flow, why would changing out the transmission fix it? If it still has a lube problem, what have you fixed?? As far as getting to the 36K to be out of warranty, there are countless posters on here who have transmission problems past the 36K and Honda has fixed them free of charge.
Your reasoning seems to fit a preconceived.
There is such a thing as cause and effect. When the transmission is modified, what effect will this have on another area?
This looks like a patch as a fix it up and hope it works down the road. Remember, Honda didn't see this problem in the first place and only time/miles will see if this fix/patch really works.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/040415-1.htm
Honda recalls 600,000 Odysseys, Pilots and MDXs
I still think they are great vehicles. I have not had a bad experience, however I count Honda will do a good job at fixing this and any PR issues. Honda (to me) has a great record on keeping their customers. (4 vehicles w/them and counting)
Last Thursday, coincidently the same date as when the recall news hit the papers, I was driving in traffic and went to accelerate from 25 to 30 mph and didn't go anywhere. Car felt like it was in neutral! Called the dealer and brought it in. He agreed that the transmission seemed to be slipping but wanted to wait until they had some details from Honda as to how to proceed with it and whether my car was involved in the recall. Meanwhile, I'm still commuting 35 miles each way to work. I find myself watching those RPM's and feeling that transmission! Truthfully I am very nervous about driving my van now! It's a 2002 with 80K miles on it. I've always had Hondas for the reliability but my confidence in them has been shaken! I never know when the vehicle is going to have a fit and not allow me to accelerate when needed! Especially when I'm on the highway a lot.