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3rd car is the way to go, always nice to have a spare. Mine's a Miata.
Hey, why doesn't Scion offer a value priced convertible?
-juice
Serious question: you said you get a modest increase in hp with your air-take, and "5 mpg." What does that mean? Is it 5 mpg more or less than what you had before?
I got it tested at pepboys they were not busy at all they put my car on one of those plate things
and my wheels keep spinning and they keep giving it gas taking to the red i think and the had some wire running from my moter to some kind of computer thing. They said they have custmers ask the to do it all the time when they get there emmison inspection done(if you wait too get it done at that time it is free)
Thanks.
Whoever told you that is someone you should never believe about anything ever again.
-juice
She absolutely flipped out, loved it! She was actually giggling when she got in to check it out.
She thought it felt like a "noveau hippie" car, even compared it to a hip school bus.
It was hysterical.
Price on this loaded up one was $18 and change, but the base price impressed her. We didn't drive it because we're not in the market, but I thought I'd share anyway.
It's funny, she hates the Element (I like it), so I thought she'd find this too boxy also, but no. She absolutely loved it.
It's cool when a car can generate that kind of reaction from people, isn't it?
-juice
Yes, this car makes people freak. Strangers stop and knock on my front door when it's in the driveway. Everywhere I go people want to see it, sit in it and ask tons of questions.
I've had lots of "cool" cars before- Corvette Convertible, , 66 Bronco, GTO's, Mustangs and this box gets more thumbs up than all of them put together.
-juice
What would really be nice for winter driving and communiting is heated outside mirrors and driver's seat in different sizes to fit the size of the driver. This last point is from driving for 30+ years. I am small. I get lost in a big car with big seats.
-juice
What color? Tranny? Options?
Fill us in...
-juice
I'm not too keen on the decals and the only other exterior option I seriously considered was the spoiler. I like how it exaggerates the angle of the hatch and might get it later.
Will live with it for a while and make some decisions, esp. CAI and exhaust. Think it might be fine as is.
I walked out of their grinning, man.
Don't know if the '05s are due in June
Rims look good. Some brake work, too?
Appreciate your feedback.
I think they are just right as far as the size/ride compromise. They are noticably firmer than the stocks but not too harsh.
I shouldn't admit this but I just painted the calipers red with some red rustoleum.
I talked with a Scion engineer/rep at the SEMA trade show.
His review was that the strut tie bar makes a big improvement in ride and handling. The exhaust makes a slight power increase, and the cold air intake only serves to makes it louder.
Big Daddy-let us know what you think of that CTS-V
I sold my 2000 Corvette Convertible for this and I get more enjoyment out of the Scion!
i know the echo has weak air and the xb has a lot more volume to cool.
i think the dark tint that comes standard is to offset the weak air conditioner in hot climates.
looking forward to your experience with the heat and the xb.
I'm looking into the wheels now. It feels pretty tight to me without the tie bar, but I'm going from a Silverado to this, so what do I know.
I haven't seen much info about recommended wheel/tire sizes. Scionlife has a bunch of forums, so I'll probably post something there. Your choice of "17s seems sound: much bigger and you're messing with the ride too much and maybe rubbing on corners.
The salesman at the dealership was telling me that between the CAI and exhaust I could get another 10hp. Seems like a stretch, but am wondering if even half that on top of 108 might be worth the trouble and expense.
Know anything about ground kits? Supposedley can increase hp and tourque by lowering resistance in the electrical system. Makes your headlights brighter, bass lower and teeth whiter, too:) For $85 might be worth a shot.
Thanks for the info.
It's OK. Not great. It has a huge greenhouse and lots of interior volume so it never gets chilly inside. The air coming out is pretty cold after a while, so if you keep it aimed right at your face, it's not too bad.
Overall, it's better than the AC in our Xterra.
On the wheels, I also tried some 16" wheels and I wasn't that impressed. They still looked too small, so I eBay'd them and got the 17's. There was a noticeable change in ride and firmness going from the stock 15's to 16 to 17. I think anything larger would be too harsh to live with.
My 17's fit nicely, and don't rub at all.
she drives a land cruiser now and has trouble parking. she needs something short so her bumpers and fenders don't get dinged.
Cross-shopped with a CTS-V? Wild.
-juice
-juice
I rarely have passengers in the back, but I don't think it would get too cool back there.
LOL
-juice
But The gets noticed by everyone and by far most response it positive.
One 14 year old neighbor kid was with his friends and did the "point and laugh", later he came over alone and told me it is the coolest car he's ever seen.
I agree that most of the response really is positive, with a healthy dose of puzzled mixed in.
There are some posts about using the xB for towing on the scionlife forum. The main points were that you'd have to either cut through the bumper to accommodate a hitch or rig the hitch so it went under the bumper and back up to trailer height. Not optimal in either case.
Not sure what sort of "small jobs" you had in mind, but one of the reasons I bought this car is its cargo capacity. With the seats down there is a lot of room for tools and material. I haven't tried this yet, but with the rear seats down and the front passenger seat fully reclined you supposedley can fit 8' boards or whatever inside.
If you're just a weekend tinkerer like me, could be sufficient.
Good luck.
as far as emissions... i believe it's rated for all 50 states.