Eclipse has very few authorized dealers. They are very picky about who sells their gear. I think that Eclipse doesn't allow any dealers to do mail order if I'm not mistaken. In order to qualify for the 3 year warranty, you have to have the dealer install the equipment. They ahve a website at http://www.eclipse-web.com/
I have a SR-5 4x4 x-cab. No vibration at any speed. Did any of you see the report consumer reports did on truck tires? Believe it or not the Dunlops were rated #1. I have 4000 miles on my Tundra, and am very happy with it.
Picked up my loaded Lmtd TRD on Monday and it's by far the best vehicle I've ever owned. At least for 2 days. No vibrations at all and I personally think the 6disk changer is excellent. One potential glitch,though. There seems to be a very slight ongoing drip of transmission fluid seeping from around the dipstick. Tried to check the level, but a bit squirted out, even after having the engine shut off for about an hour. Might take it back for the dealer to check out, but it's about an hour away. Any advice? Thanks
Franklin says bring that one back to factory. Seems to be tell on others with that tranny trouble too. Those limited ones seem to break the quickest. Must drop out fast on this one before that factory tries to suppress the news on all these to. Good luck on this one.
"The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia."
Franklin concurs on this one - thou carveats it with that Mexico foundry - claims them engines just assembled in that new plant not "built".
Maybe someone need to do a tell to that Mecury News on this one? Seems that factory spent the big money on that West Virginia site if they build em back in the island factory too.
Just tryin to keep the truth on this one. No insult meant to that hacksaw fellow or others who own that tindra. No need for all to get angry on this one too. Good luck on that engine now.
I still have not received any pricing from Borla. I have read that aftermarket cat-back systems(basically new piping and muffler/tip) can reduce back pressure and increase horsepower and fuel economy(with a deep exhaust growl also). I have seen similar systems in a Performance Products catalog for 4Runners, Landcruisers, and Tacomas(yes, Chevys, too). Prices were under $500. Per. Prdts. doesn't have the Tundra system at this time. I don't know if the HP pr gas mileage claims are true but I know the "sound" is.
rublue2- What planet did you come from? Who the $@*^% is Franklin, anyway? Listen Goomer, the engines ARE made in Japan, but these will likely be BUILT at a new plant here in the U.S. in the near future. That's what the newspaper is referring to. This V8 is the same engine that also powers the Land Cruiser and LX470; both of these are still built in Japan.
My Limited 4x4 Tundra is fantastic, period!
BTW, if anyone is looking for a 1999 extracab 4x4 Chevy; I know where there is one for sale. You could probably get it a good price since it's been sitting for several months. I only mentioned this since there are so many Chevy lovers on this Tundra topic.
Just a question and it's not a put-down; just wondering, why did you want to check the transmission fluid when you just got the truck on Monday? Did the tranny shift in such a manner to warrant this? Just wanted to know; I've checked the oil level and radiator, but I have 1600 miles on my LTD (not a drop low on either).
I have got into the habbit of making my first drive off the dealership to my mechanic, a Toyota PU owner by the way, to see to it that the dealership didn't hose anything. It's not paranoid, it's preventative. Now I'm fighting with the dealership to NOT place holes in my Tundra in order to afix their dealership emblem and to not weather prep it with that gunk they love to spray underneath on everything. Any opinions on the dealership gunk?
I would strongly advise against using Carorder.com. You can probably get $1000 below MSRP at a local dealership if you're persistent. The Carorder price hike does not justify the service. You can't even test drive it or inspect it. As for me, I don't care where I buy from as long as it is a good price. In my region (South West-Arizona), the best is $1000 which is ridiculous. No one should pay that unless they must show-up the Jones'.
As far as a deal in Arizona, good luck. The dealers pride themselves on the fact that Arizona is the #1 truck state and refuse to budge very much. The dealers in Phoenix are trying to maximize profits. I can't say I blame them.
If Toyota keeps production and demand like they are keeping the Sienna, then I would happily entertain a (real) Honda SUV or another competitor if they can close the quality gap Toyota rightfully has earned and deserves. Let's hope they up production soon as to stop this price gouging. That is my only true complaint of Toyota.
Bobby Joe, You've been kinda quiet lately. You're not stuck on the side of the road again, are you? Miss that charming southern haul of yours.
Picked up my 'Tindra' LTD (as you so eloquently spell it) Monday night. As promised, I will measure the driveline for you. (It's been raining here, and I'm not about to crawl through the mud for you). I'll let you know as soon as it dries up around here.
Franklin says that engine not the same. That one you mention on that cruzer and 470 all aluiminum. That want in that tindra is iron (comes from that foundry in good old Mexico). This is the fact on that one. Franklin says just check that fact and get over it soon, if not you can believe what you want anyway, but I do the tell now, that Franklin know them trucks good. Good luck on that limited driveshaft check now.
Go back to that post number 565 by eoster. They put that gunk on that driveshaft to make it better is what eoster tells. eoster heard tell of driveshaft rustout, this one new to me, will ask Franklin to ponder on it. Good luck on this one.
Rubby baby; the dealership gunk is a way dealers make an extra buc. They like to put it on every car claiming it helps, especially american models w/o non corosive undersides but Toyotas are non corrosive in the bodypanels, frame, break lines and anything else that might rust hence no need but those dealers want that extra $k and really don't give a good god #$%^& about anything else. I keep getting crap like "we always do it, we can't prevent it from being done" so I'm telling them if i find that gunk underneath and a drilled in emblem I'll cancel the sale.
BTW, arn't most of the American PU's and cars made in Mexico these days? That's the sucking sound you hear.
The Tundra is a result of what the American market wanted. Toyota intervied several hundred people who own American trucks and asked them what they do and don't like about their Ford, Chevy or Dodge. They then built the Tundra. I think you are jealous because you can't afford one. I think I passed you the other day going up hill pulling my boat with my Tundra!!!!! A Toyota might break while it is pulling a huge heavy load, but a Chevy will break backing it out of the drive way. Bow down Rubu, the Tundra Rules....
I figured out why the center console shakes on the bench seat option. First, to reproduce the problem, hit your center console on the side and you will notice it will oscillate. Most of time it isn't a problem, but some roads will make it go crazy. It is the seat that is shaking and not the actual console. There is no support under the center seat cushion making it flex enough to rattle the console. I just e-mailed Toyota and explained the problem. I would suggest others to do the same. I'm sure they will come up with a fix. I even suggested for them to use a glide mechanism under the center cushion like the others under the seat. I think this would give it the support required to stop the vibration. So take the wood shims out and start complaining.
Dan
Hey, let me respond for Rubutube........hEy, ToYota JUUNKie TWUk. WAttle problemo NO GooD. BuY CHeCy Twuk, No NEed To dwiv twuk to Get wattle, Checy Twuk Wattle while siTTing in Garage.
That tindra is what the full size ones who are americans wanted most? There is no way we ask for a dinky one as a full sizer. Look what that American magazine say on that tindra size:
A look at the Tundra’s dimensions indicates that, while it sits on a 6.5-inch longer wheelbase and stretches out 8.4 inches longer than the "mid-size" T100 it replaces, it’s closer in size to the Chevrolet S10 than a Chevrolet Silverado. Toyota calls the Tundra a full-size and wants you to think of it as full-size, but it’s really a slightly larger mid-size pickup.
This is quote from that magazine not mine or Franklins. Now you say that we ask for that dinky one too? I think you believe that factory tell on this one now.
Now the truth is coming out on that size on that tindra. I suppose eveybody get mad and call me names for this truth too? The fact is the fact, that tindra compares to Chevorlet S10 in size, it be much smaller than the full size Silverado. The magzine does the tell on this, not I. Now danodan does tell that the americans ask that factory for a small one? This can not be now. Do the compare, if you want the small S10 size, then get that tindra, if you the full size pickup go for that Silverado now.
I have owned a chevy pickup for 7 years, it was a good truck, but my tindra as you call it, is a superior vehicle. Too each his own, thats what makes this country great, freedom of choice. By the way, the heads are aluminum, but the block is cast iron. You can insult us tundra owners all you want, but we know what we have. See ya
bob223, no insult meant towards those owners, and yep, that block is iron, thats the diff between that tindra engine and others mentioned. That size and that origin of that engine just the facts, not meant as the insult. I agee on the freedom and the greatness of this one here, that was never a question. Me and Franklin mean no insult, some take the facts as one it seems. Just tryin to keep the truth out there for those who need to hear it.
Why are you and Franklin?? so dead set on spreading what you call the truth about the Tundra? Why do you care? We our owners of the Tundra and will let other prospective owners know the truth about the truck. We own this truck, you don't so how can you tell us anything about it. Go to the Chevy areas and spread info on what you know about.
If you see my 1st post, it will say I have a 4Runner I got in April. I looked at the Tundra, and couldn't find a 4x4 with a bench seat. I couldn't stand the armrests on the buckets. It was titled "peace", cause there was alot of yakkin going on. No, I am not in the "wrong" forum. I realize Toyota's quality reputation, and have owned 5. If you think quality isn't going to drop now that they are built here, your dreamin.
Franklin knows the most cuz he had a hand in the building of them. Franklin knows from within the belly of that beast they call that factory. The factory will keep the truth closed if they can. By pass tells on this forum, many the owner know only the factory truth, and not the real one. I'm here to help the truth from getting the toss.
Here are the 2 lastest truths: 1) Tindra is not fully sized. It has a size much closer to the S10 and such. 2) That engine not from the island factory. It comes assembled in West Virginia and the foundry is found in Mexico.
These are simple truths meant to inform not to cause any insult to those who have purchased that tindra. But for those who have yet to make the purchase, these truths should be know.
Ooops, my apologies beaverman, didn't scroll back that far. And I'm not gonna trash your Chevy either, I'm feeling peaceful too.
As much as I like the brand bashing, especially ruby baby's, I think this message board is broke cause we can't thread out on a subjects? Takes to long to find an answer to a question. I asked earlier if anyone knew a better Discussion board for the Tundra specifically, I haven't been able to locate one via Yahoo. I made one at www.homejack.com/tundra If ya all would like to use it for the newest subject: Should I buy Chevy or Toyota feel free but lets keep this one on the Tundra. I’d say go ahead and bash the Tundra so long as you have facts, not just impressions.
Has anyone found a locking hard top cover for the Tundra 6’bed? No, not a Cab, just a cover...
No specific dimension point of manufacture or point of assembly dictate the quality of the end product.
The engineering, quality control and attitude of the manufacturer are reflected in every product produced.
When problems arise, an inevitable fact due to the complexity of the products we own, the attitude, response and the results are guides to measure the quality of the product.
Buy whatever you want, but you shouldn't do it for any of the following reasons; the location of the manufacturer, you like their slogan, the paint was a great color, the radio, etc.
We install bed liners to protect the bed and paint but..
The drop-in liners protect from dents but completely ruin the paint. Can anyone describe the paint after a few years with a liner? At least its reasonably easy to repaint if the bed is in good shape.
The spray on liners give some protection to the bed but destroy the paint. Is there any way to remove this gunk after it has served its purpose? Seems like it would be nearly impossible to restore the bed to original appearance.
It looks like both are a compromise.
Can a 4' piece of plywood lay flat in a Tundra with the plastic liner?
Your facts about the pro's and con's of bedliners are right. It is said if you damage the spay-on, it can be easily repaired, but is still probably more difficult than re-spraying paint on an area damaged by a drop-in liner, which you can do yourself with a $40 sprayer. Now, there is a foam mat you can lay underneath the drop-in liner that is water repellent. I think it's called "Paint Protector, or Paint Saver." It costs $35. And yes, you can fit a 4' plywood flat in the Tundra.
I re-read your post. You asked can you lay a 4' piece of plywood flat if you have a drop-in liner? Sorry, I don't know if enough room remains after installing the liner for that. Anyone?
Thanks for the info. Can you tell what you paid? I'm in PA and it looks like Line-X cost $385 (under-rail) and $425 (over-rail).
Thessick: I had a dropin bedliner in my 91 Toy PU from the day it left the dealership. My intentions were to protect the bed so that when I sell it, I could lift the liner and touch up the paint. About 3 years ago I lifted part of the bedliner to see under it. It was filled with leaves and crap, as well as rusted. I can tell you from personal experience, as well as from what all my friends say, dropin liners are as permanent as spray in liners. Once you install them you won't take them out. You won't take it out and re-spray the bed because the liner hides the rust and scratches (so you won't care).
That's why I'm going with a spray-in this time. I looked into Line-X and Rino. It looks like Line-X is much tougher and will give more protection (check it out for yourself, they will send you samples and you can see). It is impossible to remove, but like I said with the drop-in liner, why would you want to remove it? Both are repairable, so if you really gouge them you can have them if it.
Other than cost (spray in are about twice the cost of drop-ins), it sounds like spray-in are the way to go.
Go ahead, buy a drop-in bedliner now. That way, you can be sure it will never be out-of-production if you want it later.
Now, never install the liner until the day before you sell your truck. (Might be 30 years from today, based on all the "quality" claims from the new Tundra owners on the board.) When your buyer shows up, he/she will see a beautiful, brand-new liner in the bed, and presto, you'll make your sale.
Better get a good bed cover to hide the scrapes and dents until that day comes.
A tundra passed me with a moonroof the other day. I got to see the dealer tag but could'nt get to talk to the owner. I called the dealer in S.INDIana who said it was aftermarket, price about $1000. I will try and get more info, but I think I will be reluctant to let anyone cut a hole in my roof anytime soon. Anybody had one?
The dealer I'm getting my Tun from said Toyota is "considering a moon or sun roof for next year in the access cab" but considering the source I wouldn't count on it. I was hoping to get the 4Runner equiv in a moonroof, best one ever made.
Don't do the moon roof thing. That's a chick thing! Look at the negative aspects: 1. They can leak(and many do) 2. They can squeak(mine sure did) 3. Weaken the roof(haven't rolled over yet to verify) 4. add noise to the quite interior(I like my CD player) 5. cause a sunburn on bald peoples heads(thats what a bald friend told me)
I have had a sun roof and so have many of my friends and all of us would never get another one.
Next someone will want a convertible Tundra. Lets not make our Tundra's too chachi. Remember, this is a truck, not a car.
I looked at one At Roseville Toyota. They are not factory installed. These are done aftermarket. Except for little things like floor mats, I would stay away from after market items. I have done aftermarket for years and always run into some kind of problem that the original factory item doesn't have.
Curious to find out who has the most miles on their Tundra and what problems they may have experienced, other than front end vibration. I really don't expect to read anything. This is Toyota we're talking about. But I keep in mind that they're being built in the USA and Toyota has picked up some of the bad habits in the last few years. (ie. Placebo pattern letters. Corporate greed over customer satisfaction.)
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Did any of you see the report consumer reports did on truck tires?
Believe it or not the Dunlops were rated #1.
I have 4000 miles on my Tundra, and am very happy with it.
Thanks
Seems to be tell on others with that tranny
trouble too. Those limited ones seem to break the quickest. Must drop out fast on this one before that factory tries to suppress the news on all these to. Good luck on this one.
"The Tundra has an all-new engine, too, built at
Toyota's new engine plant in West Virginia."
Franklin concurs on this one - thou carveats it
with that Mexico foundry - claims them engines just assembled in that new plant not "built".
Maybe someone need to do a tell to that Mecury
News on this one? Seems that factory spent the
big money on that West Virginia site if they
build em back in the island factory too.
Just tryin to keep the truth on this one. No
insult meant to that hacksaw fellow or others who
own that tindra. No need for all to get angry
on this one too. Good luck on that engine now.
My Limited 4x4 Tundra is fantastic, period!
BTW, if anyone is looking for a 1999 extracab 4x4 Chevy; I know where there is one for sale. You could probably get it a good price since it's been sitting for several months. I only mentioned this since there are so many Chevy lovers on this Tundra topic.
As far as a deal in Arizona, good luck. The dealers pride themselves on the fact that Arizona is the #1 truck state and refuse to budge very much. The dealers in Phoenix are trying to maximize profits. I can't say I blame them.
If Toyota keeps production and demand like they are keeping the Sienna, then I would happily entertain a (real) Honda SUV or another competitor if they can close the quality gap Toyota rightfully has earned and deserves. Let's hope they up production soon as to stop this price gouging. That is my only true complaint of Toyota.
Still waiting...
Picked up my 'Tindra' LTD (as you so eloquently spell it) Monday night. As promised, I will measure the driveline for you. (It's been raining here, and I'm not about to crawl through the mud for you). I'll let you know as soon as it dries up around here.
you mention on that cruzer and 470 all aluiminum.
That want in that tindra is iron (comes from
that foundry in good old Mexico). This is the fact
on that one. Franklin says just check that fact
and get over it soon, if not you can believe what
you want anyway, but I do the tell now, that
Franklin know them trucks good. Good luck on
that limited driveshaft check now.
put that gunk on that driveshaft to make it better is what eoster tells. eoster heard tell
of driveshaft rustout, this one new to me, will
ask Franklin to ponder on it. Good luck on this
one.
BTW, arn't most of the American PU's and cars made in Mexico these days? That's the sucking sound you hear.
The Tundra is a result of what the American market wanted. Toyota intervied several hundred people who own American trucks and asked them what they do and don't like about their Ford, Chevy or Dodge. They then built the Tundra. I think you are jealous because you can't afford one. I think I passed you the other day going up hill pulling my boat with my Tundra!!!!! A Toyota might break while it is pulling a huge heavy load, but a Chevy will break backing it out of the drive way. Bow down Rubu, the Tundra Rules....
I figured out why the center console shakes on the bench seat option. First, to reproduce the problem, hit your center console on the side and you will notice it will oscillate. Most of time it isn't a problem, but some roads will make it go crazy. It is the seat that is shaking and not the actual console. There is no support under the center seat cushion making it flex enough to rattle the console. I just e-mailed Toyota and explained the problem. I would suggest others to do the same. I'm sure they will come up with a fix. I even suggested for them to use a glide mechanism under the center cushion like the others under the seat. I think this would give it the support required to stop the vibration. So take the wood shims out and start complaining.
Dan
Hey, let me respond for Rubutube........hEy, ToYota JUUNKie TWUk. WAttle problemo NO GooD. BuY CHeCy Twuk, No NEed To dwiv twuk to Get wattle, Checy Twuk Wattle while siTTing in Garage.
americans wanted most? There is no way we ask
for a dinky one as a full sizer. Look what that
American magazine say on that tindra size:
A look at the Tundra’s dimensions indicates that,
while it sits on a 6.5-inch longer wheelbase and
stretches out 8.4 inches longer than the "mid-size" T100 it replaces, it’s closer in size to the
Chevrolet S10 than a Chevrolet Silverado. Toyota
calls the Tundra a full-size and wants you to think of it as full-size, but it’s really a slightly larger mid-size pickup.
This is quote from that magazine not mine or
Franklins. Now you say that we ask for that
dinky one too? I think you believe that factory
tell on this one now.
tindra. I suppose eveybody get mad and call me
names for this truth too? The fact is the fact,
that tindra compares to Chevorlet S10 in size,
it be much smaller than the full size Silverado.
The magzine does the tell on this, not I. Now
danodan does tell that the americans ask that
factory for a small one? This can not be now.
Do the compare, if you want the small S10 size,
then get that tindra, if you the full size
pickup go for that Silverado now.
and yep, that block is iron, thats the diff
between that tindra engine and others mentioned.
That size and that origin of that engine just
the facts, not meant as the insult. I agee
on the freedom and the greatness of this one
here, that was never a question. Me and Franklin
mean no insult, some take the facts as one it seems. Just tryin to keep the truth out there for those who need to hear it.
the building of them. Franklin knows from within
the belly of that beast they call that factory.
The factory will keep the truth closed if they
can. By pass tells on this forum, many the
owner know only the factory truth, and not the
real one. I'm here to help the truth from
getting the toss.
Here are the 2 lastest truths:
1) Tindra is not fully sized. It has a size
much closer to the S10 and such.
2) That engine not from the island factory. It
comes assembled in West Virginia and the
foundry is found in Mexico.
These are simple truths meant to inform not to
cause any insult to those who have purchased
that tindra. But for those who have yet to
make the purchase, these truths should be know.
As much as I like the brand bashing, especially ruby baby's, I think this message board is broke cause we can't thread out on a subjects? Takes to long to find an answer to a question. I asked earlier if anyone knew a better Discussion board for the Tundra specifically, I haven't been able to locate one via Yahoo. I made one at www.homejack.com/tundra If ya all would like to use it for the newest subject: Should I buy Chevy or Toyota feel free but lets keep this one on the Tundra. I’d say go ahead and bash the Tundra so long as you have facts, not just impressions.
Has anyone found a locking hard top cover for the Tundra 6’bed? No, not a Cab, just a cover...
Here's an idea.....buy a used Yugo, and invest the $25,000 saved in an education.
Tell us,what are the standards or dimensions for a "full size truck"?
The engineering, quality control and attitude of the manufacturer are reflected in every product produced.
When problems arise, an inevitable fact due to the complexity of the products we own, the attitude, response and the results are guides to measure the quality of the product.
Buy whatever you want, but you shouldn't do it for any of the following reasons; the location of the manufacturer, you like their slogan, the paint was a great color, the radio, etc.
See topic 778, response #122.
You too rublue2.
We install bed liners to protect the bed and paint but..
The drop-in liners protect from dents but completely ruin the paint. Can anyone describe the paint after a few years with a liner? At least its reasonably easy to repaint if the bed is in good shape.
The spray on liners give some protection to the bed but destroy the paint. Is there any way to remove this gunk after it has served its purpose?
Seems like it would be nearly impossible to restore the bed to original appearance.
It looks like both are a compromise.
Can a 4' piece of plywood lay flat in a Tundra with the plastic liner?
Tom
Thessick: I had a dropin bedliner in my 91 Toy PU from the day it left the dealership. My intentions were to protect the bed so that when I sell it, I could lift the liner and touch up the paint. About 3 years ago I lifted part of the bedliner to see under it. It was filled with leaves and crap, as well as rusted. I can tell you from personal experience, as well as from what all my friends say, dropin liners are as permanent as spray in liners. Once you install them you won't take them out. You won't take it out and re-spray the bed because the liner hides the rust and scratches (so you won't care).
That's why I'm going with a spray-in this time. I looked into Line-X and Rino. It looks like Line-X is much tougher and will give more protection (check it out for yourself, they will send you samples and you can see). It is impossible to remove, but like I said with the drop-in liner, why would you want to remove it? Both are repairable, so if you really gouge them you can have them if it.
Other than cost (spray in are about twice the cost of drop-ins), it sounds like spray-in are the way to go.
Now, never install the liner until the day before you sell your truck. (Might be 30 years from today, based on all the "quality" claims from the new Tundra owners on the board.) When your buyer shows up, he/she will see a beautiful, brand-new liner in the bed, and presto, you'll make your sale.
Better get a good bed cover to hide the scrapes and dents until that day comes.
Don't do the moon roof thing. That's a chick thing! Look at the negative aspects:
1. They can leak(and many do)
2. They can squeak(mine sure did)
3. Weaken the roof(haven't rolled over yet to verify)
4. add noise to the quite interior(I like my CD player)
5. cause a sunburn on bald peoples heads(thats what a bald friend told me)
I have had a sun roof and so have many of my friends and all of us would never get another one.
Next someone will want a convertible Tundra. Lets not make our Tundra's too chachi. Remember, this is a truck, not a car.
I looked at one At Roseville Toyota. They are not factory installed. These are done aftermarket. Except for little things like floor mats, I would stay away from after market items. I have done aftermarket for years and always run into some kind of problem that the original factory item doesn't have.