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Spent some time at vortec engineering netsite, remember (maybe at edmunds) how the 2.4 gm engine was pushed beyond limits thought possible by me.
Can a small boost vortec centifugal supercharger (vcs) be added to the 3.5 I5? Can a small vcs be driven from an electric motor? Is that motor necessary - i.e. is the loss from the crank enough to warrant the the electrical circuits to time the motor speed vs drag or drain to the alternator? Can the guts of the 3.5 handle any of this? Can this be coupled to an enlarged exhaust system to make a "wow" what was that experience?
We test drove a new 5.3 tahoe and don't know about the cylinder deactivation. We did a test loop at Classic and it doesn't involve interstate driving. The gas pedal felt like we were driving our old toyota goose 4wd with 65hp at the wheels. Someone told us we should've floored it anytime we didn't want cyl deact.
The H3 is built for off-road with it's 4.56 dif's. Autobahn? trips in texas eats mpg just like some posters say - keep it as slow as possible and not over 70mph. We don't care - we will spend money to get time every chance.
Build quality-test drive as many as possible like we did and don't except anything but perfect at buy time - entrophy exists.
Just used better-half's hand me down '04 malibu to bring home deco bark(raised garden beds mulch) - (6) 3 cu ft bags per load in the trunk. Wells cargo trailer going to the auction block. Do you need the truck bed?
Rumors persist about the 5.3 w/out cyl deact in the H3. Latest chatter elsewhere talks about ordering this summer for fall delivery. Then you start the first year build clock again.
Good luck and good to be objective and keep all options open.
I hope b_h's H3 hand me down will be our beater in years to come.
I am predicting extech2 will be back Tuesday!
tidester, host
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I think that probably makes you unique among potential buyers.
Will you be a be back for this salesman? Did he look like a newbie? Was he having a bad day? He should have never given you that impression, no matter what. Sold chevies and hondas during one year, twenty years ago. Never bought a honda, test drove wagons and the minvan's first year but traded our only ever chevy (until the '04 malibu) for a previa. Maybe he/she will read this.
In blue jeans, when we were first married, looked at volvo's and mercedes' in dallas and we were treated with respect.
After the drive I told my wife that every American male between the age 13 and 96 has two fantasies: one is to drive a Hummer, the second is to take a bubble bath with Pamela Anderson. Ever since then I'm sleeping in the garage, but it isn't too bad, our two dogs keep me quite warm and our Toyota truck has a cozy bedliner.
Please forget the fantasy that H3 will come with an V8 engine. Who else would buy a H2 if GM makes H3 so attractive and so much lower in price? I already own a 2006 H3 so may be i can say something objectively. I do think GM had mis-priced the 2006 H3. It is not a generic SUV model, it is designed as a dream car which people puts in in their wish list. GM should have priced the H3 in the 40K's, a bit closer to their 60K's+ H2. A 30K H3 is a steal.
I have heard some members said that cylinder head problems occurred in early 2005 productions and those vehicles that rolled out of the assemly line after Jan or feb 2006 would have the cylinder head problems fixed before sending out to the dealers' lots. And those earlier make models would have the cylinder head problems pop up after the odometer surpassed 10K miles. Kindly send in your info to verify this observation. It would help many other early buyers of H3 to file claims !!
I noticed that some good people on one of the other forums is working to get those torsion bars and springs - thank you. S/C - still working on separate lubricant vs crankcase oil since this poster turned into a forum hog on e's slippery forum - yes oil for the engine (and possibly a s/c later).
Turbo's/dieseleuro stuff - listen to your answer - big detroit push rods rock. My ford service advisor raced chevy not ford. Why asked tod? I can afford to rebuild a chevy and race again next weekend but if the ford gets blown up after several weekends, it will sit.
tod is trying to not post but would also like a real discussion and not whining a few decades late about the state of the union.
B_H will commute and we will travel with her 3.5. The 5.3 even with 4.10's gives towing ability [and a rock crawling iron front dif - and a kudo to gm (but wrangler pressure? result)] per a paraphrased gm release by someone somewhere. But 5.3 still needs to feed 1.8L more than the 3.5 all the time.
Keeping the speed down [(remember the old double nickels)which a noted person in the business in dfw said can reduce fuel/oil needs more so than a lot of things] can keep our mpg's up if we so desire.
I am vehicle bored (after a lot of time with a diesel) and will just change the oil and keep B_H's H3 fueled up.
At times I feel like it is 1890 and all owners are discussing the latest and greatest horse carriage. I will never buy another (insert your dislike here). Are we coming up on a change? Why did Ford and GM destroy mass transit decades ago?
Here in texas there has been a change in the disregard of courtesy and law, including road rules. The death in a car collision of the gentleman (who brought Christmas Story to the screen - Red Ryder BB Gun)and his son by a drunken unlicensed pick up truck driver in Ca reinforces one of the reasons b_h drives an h3 to work.
I will stay here at edmunds and not join the tough off-road crowd who, like some, show contempt for others and think they have the only right answer. Thank you edmunds.
tidester, host
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The net seems to condescend "edmunds". I was hoping to generate a good discussion with people feeling free to join in and not get ridiculed.
I am curious; even though the H3 doesn't have a turbo and have posted at oil slippery subject, liked redline 15w40 in the crd. Has any body used 5w30 redline in an h3 and gone by the DIC (and not mobil 1 for 6k miles)? Thinking about redline 5w30 and let the oil change go until the onstar update.
Oil oil oil, spent way too much time at bitog, but leaning to staying with mobil 1 (decades of use).
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Why did Ford and GM destroy mass transit decades ago?
In this sunday's Fort Worth Star Telegram in the Drive section, Mr. Wallace talks about Mr. Ford's hatred of wasteful war and convenience for the farmer.
t_o_d RVN '66-'67
Another factor may be Levittown and a new home for returning GI's. A place of their own-a new clean place for their children, etc. Now the wife works and they have 2 vehicles in front of a one car garage. Because "we won't be caught in an apartment, in a medium sensibly sized city, with dirty neighbors who light candles or smoke in bed". Well here new homes are probably built worse than then, especially with a strain to find good materials and craftsmen. Mea culpa. We are part of the mess, but still anguish when arable land is turned into more malls etc. And then to see on the evening news some misguided farmer plowing eroding dirt-it looked like a dust bowl film in the way back machine.
Now back to edmunds and relevancy. We can get 16mpg keeping up with the flow or 20mpg like our first run from dfw to okc. I wonder if we double nickle to okc can more than 20mpg be gained. And one must look at the incremental cost of travel from e.g $2 a gallon versus $4 and not just the new total cost. All this does is priortize discretionary spending.
Love the drive and feel!! Great stability and comfort,I have Base model stripped down, have muddy dogs and junk I cart around. Oh yeah My husband and I have a 17 year old son and he pleading me not to do it, cause the poor boy has been brain washed at school and if my hummer ever went to his high school it would surely be keyed cause it's a gas guzzler :surprise: . I run two Colorados for our bussiness and my employees love them, no issues.
I didn't buy hummer for speed or gas milege I have owned many SUV and nothing has compared to the overall driving experience the Hummer offers, I didn't want cushy leather heated seats, it's all about utility for me and Hummer gives me that, plus one fun driveing experince.
I haven't noticed any Hummer news except for stuff from Straightline, and nothing there for a couple of months.
People are still asking about prices and GMIDs so maybe everyone is out shopping for an H3 instead of posting?
I think people are waiting for the Alpha version of the H3. If it is true, the 'bu may become a colorado alpha version.
I saw two Previas in an hour last Friday. One was a bit ragged looking but the other was pretty nice looking. They were ahead of their time I think.
Say hey to Mrs. TOD too. :shades:
Since edmunds is all automotive maybe you can provide a link. You stated the previa was ahead of the times (except for crashworthiness)and this for some reason stuck with me. Just now one digg led to another and revisited the battery contracts for the Volt.
My brain cell put the two together. Why the big hood on a Volt. Batteries under the previa floorpan and quick change out motors, one at each wheel. No driveshafts, no hood needed? No differential? then a good computer needed.
Should I get back to work or let the brain cell ramble on - decisions decisions.
Or just give us an H3 for suburbia with a 3.55 or 3.73 gears and a decal "Not for Use as a Rockclimber".
If you mean a link for them being ahead of their time, that's just my opinion. But I bet there's a link out there agreeing with me!
Don't forget the little ICE for when the batteries lose so much charge you can't drive home....
Volt, posters are already claiming it is a fiasco as far as power sources and that they think batteries are the way to go. Really?
H2 gets the general made diesel. Why didn't the general give me a plain belching 1/2 truck decades ago. First diesel ride (back seat of a F350 PS plain 7.3) and the driver said you should see the new turbo versions. We had a high pressure rail, vgt, viscous water heater and pain. No thanks for now and possibly for 2010, 2011, and 2012.
On a fun note and for one who shouldn't throw stones, count the number of times the "a" word is used on tv or even in the same sentence. I put up with proactive, literally(thank goodness it seems a madtv skit cured that one), basically, and now the "a" word. It came out of my mouth recently and I had to go gargle, "Actually".
http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/144465.html
(However, without being able to buy the paper, you may have to wait a week.) And while a good union can protect its' workers and the public interest sometimes a union shouldn't demand one hundred percent coverage for everything all the time. There is a new reality. And this is from the son of a union man, a union man who fought for basic survival needs (not work without pay etc etc etc)on the job where organizations had/have the attitude that workers are expendable and plentiful. But then again, some governments are also to blame.