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I am tall (over 6') and my wife is large. We were both comfortable even after 10-12 hours on the road some days. The vehicle rides and drives like a car, and my wife enjoys driving it also, though she prefers not to drive at all.
We took delivery of my SR5 4X4 4-door in May and I have logged over 13,000 on my Tundra since. I love this truck! Have yet to return to the dealer with any 'bugs'. Routine oil changes is about it. It uses no oil between changes and gets just under 20 miles to the gallon on 87 octane. I have a heavy fiberlass Leer topper on the back, and I'll tell you what - that white truck looks SHARP. I get compliments and questions about it nearly every day.
One week after we got home from vacation, my wife went down to the dealership and traded her big Expedition in on a Limited 4-Runner, as she was quite impressed with the Toyota and had never even considered a 'foreign' car before this.
Her 4-Runner is nice, but I like my Tundra better! (And secretly I think she does, too!)
Roc
It cost $369 plus tax for the under the rail spray. I have three friends with Rhinos also and have heard nothing but good things about it. As soon as my Tundra arrives I'll be heading to the Rhino shop myself. I want the over the rail spray which adds another $60 to the cost. The main thing to be concerned with the spray in liners is the quality of the work done by the shop in YOUR area. There is another topic in the pickup conference with posts detailing a few problems with spray in applications. My advice, check out their work very carefully.
Tundra V8 Access Cab 4x4:
1)0 to 60 in 8.5 seconds
2)1/4 mile in 16.6 seconds at 83 mph
3)Top speed governed at 105 mph
4)braking from 70 mph was 201 feet
5)skid pad was .72g
6)observed fuel economy 14 mpg(ouch!)
I was going to point out that the Tundra beat the GMC Sierra with the 5.3 270HP V8 in acceleration, braking, skid pad , and top-speed(governed) but I won't because the Tundra is such a "little" truck with an uncomfortable back seat. Thank goodness I'll spend most of the time driving mine with a big ol' smile on my face!! Oh yeah, the Tundra will tow 400lbs( "only" 7100lbs) less than the GMC but don't tell anybody.
"The Tundra also costs far more than the Silverado comparably equiped."
Hey, you get what you pay for.
"All the other "comments" apply as well to the
Tundra, since it is large, pollutes, etc. Plus you get the added advantage of Toyota's wonderful head gaskets!
If you'd followed the "size" debate, you'd know the Tundra is not as big and bulky as the GM, has achieved the LEV (low emissions) status (has the Silverdodo?), and the head gaskets were occasional probs in the V6 that Toyota replaced (free of charge here in Oregon!). rest assured that if my v8 has probs (which I seriously doubt it will because the Landbruiser and Lexus are living proof of the engine), then sure, i'll take a free engine. does GM have that policy with all THEIR problems?
Finally, you said, "You have also never owned an American car in your life, so it is not worth au=rguing with you." Here, I'm glad you finally gave up, because you are wrong again. I, unfortunatley, currently DO OWN a 93 Chevy Blazer that is the biggest piece of crap I've ever owned or driven. It was recently in the shop because of a loose bolt in the trasfer case. The thing chows fuel and depreciates about $2000 every year, and now I can't even give it away. (It's been in the truck trader for 3 weeks)...
If you (or anyone else out there) loves GM so much, give me a call on my Blazer. I'll give you a great deal on it. All my tundra needs is a new canopy. Trades welcome.
This truck is a pleasure to drive! Unfortunately, I had to lower myself to driving a friends GM Silverado the other day! What a piece of [non-permissible content removed]! Luckily, I only had to drive the piece of [non-permissible content removed] to lunch and back! What a boring truck! YAWN! Who designs these damn things? Could you IMAGINE a Dodge-GM merger? WOW!
He wanted to test drive mine for a few hours so he can dump his 1998 Silverado! The power steering is going out and his brakes have been replaced THREE times!
It looks like I'll be helping a friend buy a Tundra this weekend!
Todd~~~
rechecked the mileage on every tank since I purchased it two months ago today. My mileage on city only driving is about 16. I am very pleased with the mileage. I was alittle afraid when I purchased the Tundra on what mileage I was going to really get.
Has anyone had a remote keyless entry/alarm installed in your Tundra. I was considering getting one, mainly for keyless entry. I probably can do without it but the car I traded in on the Tundra, a Dodge Stealth (I was in a sports car phase at the time) had an alarm and I got used to the keyless entry. I was thinking about going back to my dealer, who has been great so far and see what they could do in price for the Toyota VIP system. The MSRP on it was $399 when port-installed but who knows what they want for it now. Well I guess it doesn't hurt to ask!
I really like the keyless myself. Hope this has been helpful-Good luck and enjoy your Tundra-I am!
"...Has anyone had a remote keyless entry/alarm
installed in your Tundra?"
I found a Tundra without the Toyota VIP system, and demanded it at bargaining time with the dealer because a 4x4 Toyota worth 30k without some type of theft deterrent here in Southern CA is as dumb an idea as a football bat. They must not know us very well in Indiana, the apple-cheeked rubes.
My dealer standardized on the Pursuit system, and if you have the Tundra power convenience package, it allows keyless entry. I've never had it before. It's neat:
'Bweep! Bwip!'
--Prez.
The $75 option for the cloth captains chairs are not powered as the Limited units have power. Has anyone determined the comfort over the stock bench seat?
Trying to put together a build list to submit at the dealer?
Thanks to all for good comments and I hope I don't see the 12.5 mpg or it's going to be history.
Kirby
i haven't needed ABS yet (the brakes work too well... so well that I drive with one foot on the brake all the time... but I'm getting only 8mpg.
just kidding, t100todd).
my alarm was a $350 alpine with Keyless Entry. nice unit, and a good deterent here in "where'd my car go?" Portland.
the bench seat is plenty cumpfy and i'm 6'3".
no more vibro in the console. bummer, my girlfriend misses it.
once again, i suggest a bedcoat and bug guard (it didn't save my windshield, but it might save yours, or at least the paint!)
does anyone know who makes the best canopy?
they're all scrambling to make one, I just don't know whose brand is best?
gotta run, my tundra needs a drive.
You stated that you only use Premium Unleaded Fuel in your new Tundra. Why? According to the Tundra V8 owners manual that I read, the truck only requires 87 octane (Regular Unleaded), and the manufacturers are usually conservative with the fuel rating to cover worst case conditions (high loads and high ambient temps). The engine design (compression ratio) and fuel management system are optimized for this fuel rating (unless its a 1999 Chevy/GMC engine - see posts on engine pinging), and using a fuel with a higher octane rating than this will not improve performance and will waste money (in your case it appears to have killed your gas mileage - 12.5 MPG - since the posts and magazine articles that I have read are showing 16-20MPG for the Tundra V8 4X4).
For more than you ever wanted to know about gasoline, and then some, check out the following:
http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/autos/gasoline-faq/.html
Gasoline octane is covered in part 3 of 4.
I think those Toyota folks, the ones bashing the domestic brands, are overstating their fuel mileage and losing credibility.
The fact is, 14 mpg is not very good for a $30,000 lightweight truck with a full size fuel appetite. Something is not right, because for all the complexity of overhead cams and 32 valves, domestic brands like the GMC/Chevy are getting more power and better economy with much simpler, longer lasting engine designs.
"I think those Toyota folks, the ones bashing the
domestic brands, are overstating their fuel mileage and losing credibility."
No one is losing credibility, my mileage numbers ARE actual. I have been monitoring each and every tank of gas since I brought my truck home on June 3rd. Highway = 21, city = 16, combined = 18. There are real numbers not something made up to make everyone think the Tundra is better than any other make.
Future buyers have the power to make this come about. Now is the time. Toyota production is increasing. If, for the next month or so, buyers refuse to purchase the Tundra at MSRP, you will see a crack in the firm pricing structor. You could save over $2,000. You have the power, it's up to you.
So far the Tundra is the best truck I ever owned.
here's some food for thought about vehicle depreciation ...
sure it's inevitable, but $2000 a year, every year in the life of the vehicle
makes for a [non-permissible content removed] investment. (i.e. I bought the S-10 Blazer for $17,000
new in 1993. Now I may get $7000 for it. That's $1667 per year depreciation).
that's $4.57 per day, thrown away, man.
maybe you've got that money to piss away, but I don't, and you must have missed my earlier post that mentioned I sold my 1986 Toyota XCab
4x4 for a $1600 depreciation....
AFTER 7 YEARS! That's $229 per year.
I don't expect that much from my Tundra,
but I'm sure I made a good investment again.
Hmmmnnn. So will I buy GM again?
now you get the idea.
Wait.. I do hear something... Sounds like air escaping from an overinflated bicycle tire...
Sounds like:
"Biiiiiiiiiiitccccccchhheeeeesssssssssssss..."
Is that what you hear? I recommend ignoring it.
Now you're wondering why I'm bringing all this up? I'm selling my Chevy and have a Tundra on the way. I did look at the 99 Chevies. Some things to note. Same radio. I asked about the brakes, the sales guy said the front disks were basically the same, just disks in the back now too. No major changes to the steering system, he said, either. Supposedly, since my 95, the only changes are engines and interior/exterior styling. Now granted, all this was from a sales guy, but it was enough for me to steer clear of another Chevy. On the flip side, the Chevy engine/transmission has been trouble free and extremely reliable - I will give them that. About the Tundra, I have a loaded Limited in the two-tone green/grey on the way, but I won't get into prices because I have a connection in Toyota who took extremely good care of me. I also looked at the Ford Super Duty 250 crew cab - nice looking truck with tons of room, but decided I wanted not only a nice truck but a company who would take care of me after the sale and a service department I may never have to see. Another selling point was the Toyota V8 engine. They are using it in the Landcruiser, Lexus, and Toyota Ski boats. Hope my experience might help those still trying to decide what to buy.
doughoward, Perhaps you thought I was a "Toyota Basher". You are totally mistaken. I have owned several Toyotas and hope to add a used 95 Tacoma X-cab (If my brother-in-law orders a new Tundra). I'm sorry that you felt compelled to "curse" at me both here and in my e-mail. The longer you keep a vehicle, the better (less $$$$) your depreciation will be. I am glad that you did so well with your 86 Toyota, and I wish you the same success with your new Tundra. Maybe I should have said, "$2000 per year doesn't sound bad when you look at ALL the manufacturer's vehicles". If you are looking for a fight, you will have to look elsewhere.
Well I left the dealer with the Tundra. The ride was substantially better, the perceived power was much better, and the vision was much better. Also it is a lot nicer to look at and the seats are vastly supperior. I miss the extra rear cabin space of the Silverado but that is about it.
These trucks are not even in the same ball park... there is a reason why the Chevy dealers need to discount their trucks several thousand dollars to sell them (like at invoice).
I was set to buy American, but the Dodge ram was awful to drive, the Ford is just ugly and very uncomfortable, and the best of the American bunch (the Silverado) is still vastly inferior to the Tundra...
Just my opinion...
Sean
I'm discouraged with domestics and am going to purchase a Tundra, but damb their expensive, I'm looking at the SR5 Access Cab with V8 thats it no convenience package.
Can anyone offer a sure fire way to get the dealer to sell at invoice!
www.wallahweb.com/t100
Maybe we can weed out some of the bashers who can't stand to see others enjoying something they can't have, of course they would say "don't want". I asked my dealer if I could get color-keyed fender flares with my Tundra, I ordered a SR5 4X4 loaded with the TRD off-road package,with the SR5, black fender flares come with the TRD package and I think color keyed would look better (my opinion). He said he would check, anyone else tried this? 10 days and counting!
Tim
P.S. I am 7 days and counting! Thanks for the lead on the website, too.
Interesting!