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I really wanted the power heated seats.
-juice
We ran into that same dilemma purchasing our last 3 Subies. Started looking, expecting to purchase lightly used 1-year-old vehicles, and ended up buying new one 2 of the 3 times because it was actually cheaper to go new. The one time we did go with a used vehicle instead, it was because they no longer offered the trim we wanted (Outback 3.0R).
I'm just north of you in the Seattle area - pretty competitive pricing here, too. You've got Carr, we've got Carter, Nos. 1 & 4 in national sales. $18.5 is very good for auto X w/options. I wonder if the factory-to-dealer incentives have increased... I know Forester sales were down slightly.
I have AAA right now so if I get the Gold Plus plan I can get rid of it at an annual savings of almost $80. GEICO also has some basic roadside assistance plan for about $10 more per year.
We were paying $75 for AAA, in your case $80 over a 7 year period is $560.
The warranty should cost about $1400 or so, so really the incremental cost for you is much less.
Don't worry too much about a deductible, because even if you bring it in for 3 different issues, you only pay the deductible once, for each visit.
-juice
PS My wife used the roadside assistance once (flat tire IIRC) and it was very effective.
So far the best quote I got was $750 for the former.
-juice
Does the Subaru plan do that?
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AAA has higher rates for family plans, though the $80 might be covering your whole family, I'm not sure.
The company Subaru uses for roadside assistance cover the car itself, no matter who is driving. So it's backwards.
Yeah... if you can give up AAA, it is a savings, but it is sort of two different things.. The extra benefits of the Subaru warranty definitely have a monetary benefit.. It just might be difficult to quantify exactly.
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He showed me the Subaru sheet and what the "dealer" pays for it... They want to keep you as a customer in their shop...
And do a search online. When I was looking, I found dealers who offered online specials. Not as good as my dealers, but maybe a hundred bucks less than yours. Your 750 is 100 bucks below "retail" I believe.
And it doesn't matter where or which Subaru Dealer you buy it off of.
I've been shopping for a Forester for a few weeks now. I had been thinking about a '03/'04 used Forester, but I am also considering a few new car options. One in particular:
2006 Forester w/ premium package and manual transmission. I haven't been very ipressed with the automatic transission on the Forester, so the manual is fine by me. The car was used as a service loaner by the dealership, and has about 5,000 miles on it. I wouldn't normally like the idea of a service loaner because it's more or less a rental car -- "drive it like you stole it". But, with only 5,000 miles I can live with that fact.
The dealer has made an offer at around $21,000. At first glance it seemed like a reasonable price:
$22,569 dealer invoice
$625 destination charge
-$1000 customer cash incentive
= $22,194
But then I consider that it has 5000 miles on it -- that has to be worth something, I figure $1,000 (reasonable?). And you figure that it's not really a current model at all, the 2008 models are that far off, so that has to be worth something. On top of that I read about someone else buying essentially the same car, several months back (page 66 or 67, I think), with no miles on it for $21,000. SO, not sounding like a good price any more. What should I shoot for?
-Steve
Oh, if you do go for this one, be sure they re-set the ECU so the transmission will "learn" your driving style.
I got mine new same set up with a 22,900 dealer invoice and with all the rebates (including dealer loyalty) I would have gotten mine for 21,974 without the 5K miles. I ended up giving back one of the rebates (500) for the lower rate, so my final was 22,474.
You would be better to go new. But that is a problem with Suby's is that they hold value so much that they very often lead you back to new. Oh, and take a look at the XT's...
Check here on Edmunds, go to Kelly, etc. Run the numbers, they will tell you... TMC...
You should get a used car deal for that loaner (18,500 tops).
They expect to loose money on it... It is a write off for the dealer.
I expect to buy in the next month, though now I'm wondering if I should hold out for the June release of 2008's. After reading all these wonderful and informative posts, I've decided to stop looking for a used vehicle unless some miracle show up in my face.
Thanks for thoughts and all the previous posts throughout these forums.
I have the car overnight and know they will pressure me to buy. I haven't bought the Carfax report yet--want to decide if I really want this or not. 2008's are coming out soon.
According to dealer the car was registered at a marine base. That's all I was told when she looked at carfax. hmmm.
I'd appreciate any comments.
Invoice $20,922.00
Doc fee 58.48
State Lic. 15.00
Title 65.00
County Tax 157.35
State tax 1483.63
Total 22,701.46
Rebate -2000.00
Paid 20,701.46
Do Portland cars pass CA emissions? Maybe I should come up there? Any dealer suggestions?
Thank you for responding.
-juice
thanks in advance
However, depends on the region. If you're in Alaska, that price is phenomenal. Depends on local supply/demand.
-juice
thanks again for the input.
I actually have to go see him, tell him I'm looking for a CPO Tribeca and to keep an eye out for one for me. Also to get my trade appraised. It's a bit early for me, I want to see the 08s.
-juice
Honestly, I'd consider a brand new 07. Manuals are listed at $18k all the time around here.
But that is an excellent price, nevertheless.
Where is this dealer? I want to get one!
The local dealer's ad is $18,998 for X MT.
Hey, how can they make up losses with volume?! The more they sell, the more they lose!! Just kiddin'. :P (Wasn't that GM's strategy?)
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2007.html#X%20std%20features
I'd anticipate a price of about $22k... any else here have better pricing info for an '07 X Premium automatic? You can always check the Fitzmall website to get a good idea of what kind of low pricing is out there right now... can be a good bargaining tool.
MSRP: $25458
Dealer Price: $24174
Was able to get the dealer to come down to 23,500.
Dealer had 500 rebate OR take the subaru financing option (e.g. 4.9% for 60 months). I would take the financing.
Is this a good price?? I'm female and can't help but feel like I'm being taken advantage of! Thanks!
Based on the MSRP, it sounds like it's an automatic transmission with about $1000 in options. Is this right? If so, I think they're offering you a fine price. (for reference, invoice on an automatic Premium with no options is $23,600, including destination.) They're offering probably about $700 below invoice without any rebate. That's very good. Absolute best-case scenario, you could get perhaps another $400-500 off, but I don't know if that's even possible. Not sure what current factory-to-dealer incentives are. The price they're offering gives them a minimal profit.
What options are on the vehicle?
You can see invoice prices for most options (packages and individual) here: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2007.html#option%20packages
2007 Forester 2.5 PREM PKG 4EAT,
Delivered Internet Price: $22,585
Factory Invoice: $23,623
MSRP: $25,120
http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/resultsb.asp?Search=NEW&ID=S726887&photo=SU077FD- - - &loc=LFO&mall=GA&year=2007&mk_code=SU