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Added the 7/100/0 Gold warranty for 1475.
How'd I do? The dealership is close enough I can see it out my office window, so service and coordination is pretty easy.
Is $29,688 out the door (Including tax + fees)?
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Congratlations
easypar
easypar
Does anyone know if this incentive still exists? Despite having several dealers to work with, I have only been able to get 9% off of MSRP and all the dealers are clumped between 7.5% and 9% for the same car. 2013 Outback limited, 2.5 with moonroof,wheel moldings, splash guards, Homelink mirror. In addition the fluff accessories were priced higher by the dealer than listed on the website
Any recent experiences or suggestions to lower the price into these unpublished incentives is appreciated
Good Luck!
Purchased this over a 2.5i as the dealer made it worth my while. The other car I seriously considered was a Honda CR-V. It was a close call but several thing pushed me to the Subaru. First, better seats. I know this can be subjective but the Subaru seats just feel better. Second, fit and finish. The Subaru has tighter tolerances than the CR-V and the materials, especially the fabric on the seats is more substantial. Third, NVH. The Subaru has a much quieter interior than the CR-V (less road noise) and the ride and handling are better too. Fourth, fuel economy. In my research, the Subaru generally got better fuel economy than the CR-V. Lastly, a comment made by a Honda dealer salesperson. He stated that the Subaru was more stoutly built than the CR-V in most every respect. I kept that statement in mind.
I have about 300 miles on the car, mostly highway. Getting about 25 mpg on a new engine.
I got a good deal from a Chicago dealer - $25,800 however the sales tax is much higher there from what I hear - 9.5% versus 5.5% here in Ohio.
I tried to use that price as negotiating factor, however I wonder if dealers know this tax difference already, probably leading to more attractive pricing to compete.
I ended up buying at Busam Subaru in Fairfield - near Cincinnati. They were the only ones I could find with the car in stock and gave me a fair price - not as good as the Chicago ones but a little lower than Columbus and other Ohio dealers. Plus it wasn't too far of a drive for me - like an hour and a half.
If you go "no moon roof", you can save a few grand, if that's not important to you. I didn't even know they made them w/out, as most dealers don't advertise or promote them on their lots.
We paid $27,220 and got the 1.9% financing promotion going on for 63 months. Not sure if this was a great deal or not, but most dealers I talked to were not budging in their price.
Hope that helps! Keep me posted on what you find or do!
I can afford the 2007 model only if it will save me repair costs down the line, but seeing that the mileage is almost the same I wonder if I will?
Here are some other factors to consider:
2001 LL bean model:
2 owners
had a 2008 rear/side impact accident, back bumper and back/right side replaced. Some rust there.
6 cylinder, super quiet motor. Runs really smooth. Super clean car, looks well taken care of. Dealership have put in new tires, tire rods, breaks, water pump, and anything else to make it “like new”
2007 model:
4 cylinder, 30 day warranty,
only one owner, but looking over the carfax report it has had a lot of repairs such as
Engine/powertrain computer/module replaced
Drive belt(s) replaced
Oil and filter changed
Battery replaced
Drive belts replaced
Light bulb(s) replaced
Front brake pads replaced and rotors resurfaced
And failed emission inspection at 70000 miles
Failed safety inspection at 50000 miles
Any advice would be great. Thanks!
We were going through online inventories of the different Twin Cities Subaru dealerships when we came across this car. Walser Subaru had it offered at $24,598 (not including tax/license fee. etc.), which frankly stunned us. We called the dealership to make sure that the number was not an error, which they assured was not. We drove it, and decided to buy.
It appears that Walser Subaru is making significant markdowns for the Subarus, except for the Impreza/Crosstrek and BRZ. I wonder whether or not other area dealers are doing the same.
Subaru HAS to be giving dealerships major incentives to do this. TrueCar shows $26,301 as the estimated cost for the identically-configured Outback.
We were pre-approved at our credit union at a super low rate (1.24% for 60 months), but the dealership (Walser Subaru in Burnsville) tried to match it. They did not succeed, as their best offer was 1.79% for 60 months.
However, this seems to indicate that the current 1.9% financing deal is not necessarily carved in stone. In your negotiation with the dealership of your choice, after everything has been negotiated, it may be worth asking for a better interest rate than 1.9% that is advertised. Subaru of America's offer may not get lower than 1.9%, but the dealership's own financial arm might be able to shave another 10 basis points or so, as our experience indicates. The worst that can happen is that they will say no.
I'm trying to find out the true invoice price on a 2013 OB with a number of accessories/options and I'm unclear if the Edmunds numbers accurately portray both parts/labor for those options.
I'm actually surprised that some of that stuff on the '07 even popped up on a Carfax (bulb replacements... really?). Drive belts, battery, light bulbs, brake pads.... that's all good stuff to have replaced. Really, though, the only "repair" is the computer replacement. That might be a concern, as well as failed emissions inspections... but both of those depend on what the issue actually was. In some areas, worn drive belts (or bulbs out) can cause a failed inspection. In others, those things aren't even checked. For the computer, when was it replaced and why?
Again depending on the area, the price on the '07 might be high. If you decide to go that route, make good use of your thirty days... they go quick! Also, make sure the car's timing belt was replaced, as those are due at 105K. If there is no paperwork to back up whether the belt was replaced, assume it wasn't (if the timing belt breaks, your engine is toast). If not, reduce your offer price accordingly.
For the '01, the H6 is a reliable engine. You shouldn't have to worry about the head gaskets, at the very least! You'll need to feed it premium fuel, plus it will return lower fuel economy, but you should be able to more than make up for that in purchase price and (possibly) insurance rates.
Also, I'm sure there are more fish in the sea if neither of these look like the best bet. Good luck with your decision!
The 1.9% financing is a good deal and my wife and I took that. That rate beat most banks and credit unions.
If you are an Ohio resident, then you should pay Ohio tax only. I lib=ve in Maryland and have purchased cars in Virginia. I paid Maryland sales tax only. Not every state works the same way so may want to investigate.
Vehicle: White, Limited, SAP with pud lights, seatback protectors, splashguards, 110 outlet, rear bumper protector, all weather mats: MSRP 34,701, Invoice 31,983, Price 31,483. - about 1.5 under invoice. They offered 1.9%, 60 month financing with this quote
Deposit, appraisal and dealer trade to secure the vehicle was all done online and via phone. They also offered $500 more for my 2010 outback trade than the other breeders. I secured the trade-in value prior to getting new vehicle quote. Tomorrow I travel to Portland from Sequim, Wa to trade cars. Will post again after transaction is complete. Hope all goes as it should . . .
Got the 3.6 with all the goodies -- moonroof, nav, side molding, bumper, special dark brown interior leather, which is really sharp. The only things I didnt get were the entertainment system and the camera vision thingy. Paid a bit more than I should've I think at a bit more than $36K out-the-door (got $2K off sticker), but still consider this a great deal. It's loaded with great accessories: touch-button start and keyless entry, heated power seats w memory, dual temp, bluetooth, killer stereo with ipod connectivity. Really love the dark brown - wasn't sold at first, but it has really grown on me. Mostly it's very unique, you just dont see that color out there, and also the interior brown leather has the feel of a much higher-end car (much moreso I think than the white leather, certainly.) I've put over 1500 miles on it so far and all good -- it has lots of power and it averages around 24.5 mpg on the highway, which is pretty good, I think. With the bad weather approaching we'll see how the awd is, but I'm expecting great things. Bought it at Curry Subaru in Courtland Manor, NY (and hour north of NYC.) The salesman Peter was excellent -- no hassles and no slick selling, I tested it on Sunday then bought it Thurs, took the train up and he picked me up at the station; drove it away an hour later. Highly reccomended experience all-around. The only annoying thing is that the dealership keeps sending me a barrage of surveys and promotional junk I don't want ... but a minor issue. In all, big thumbs up!
Thanks.
I now have 760 miles on the car and I am entirely happy with this decision. My first Subaru. I considered the Escape, CRV, Rav4 and Mazda CX5.
As for the vehicle I am tickled. Tighter stearing and ride than my 2010. Got 29.4 mpg (about 1 mpg less than the 2010) I have hours of late \night educational material to read regarding the NAV /audio Sys. The car is quiter than the 2010 sippier at low rpm and a much firmer luxury feel. A joy to drive. If you are in the Northwest I would check out Wentworth in portland as their current sales prices arereally low.
$3,600 below MSRP which is under invoice price, good work.
Question: i don't think there is cash incentive (rebate) from Subaru right now.
Any reason for dealer to sell under invoice which will reduce the 3% hold back?
I paid $30,000 (before taxes and license fees) for a 2013 OB Limited with moonroof package, all weather mats, rear seat back protector, wheel locks, splash guards, side moldings, rear bumper cover, wheel arch moldings, hitch, bike rack, It also included puddle lamps which I don't particularly want. Was this a good price?
Also, any recommendations on whether to take the gold plus SAS warranty? LOVE the car!
Our negotiation took two emails and done.
So, I'd say you did pretty well. Congratulations.
easypar
At that same dealership we saw the new Blue color and decided on it instead of white. We bought the Blue color instead and our local dealer ordered it from a Denver dealership. It was the first one that the sales force at our local dealership had seen and they decided then to order another one in Limited and one in Premium trim to have on the lot.
Naturally since we bought ours (early September) I've seen several more in our little (55,000) town.
easypar
I have a deposit on a 2013 Subaru 3.6R Limited with Special Appearance Package and few other floor maps and cargo nets. The vehicle is a demonstrator driven by the sales manager. It has 2600 miles on it, never titled, will have first oil change, detailed, etc. The list is $36,948 and the deal is $32,500 plus taxes, etc. The dealer is located in Maryland.
I feel that is a fair price but would appreciate any comments.
Before I went, I had exercised the "costco deal" thru a dealer about 100 miles away ( only local participating one) and I thought I was getting $425 under invoice from him but the invoice price he quoted me is about $500 over what I was expecting so their bottom lines come out pretty much the same.
So I conclude that I can't assume the edmunds invoice prices are the #s the dealers care to use when talking x under invoice. They want to tack on their holdback and advertising and then take something off of that.
I admit I have not bought a car in 15 years (others just keep going and going).
I see deals people are getting here 10-15% under invoice (which invoice # to trust I don't know) . Many of those appear to be Limiteds so perhaps they deal more there.. Not sure.. My wife refuses to go leather so I'm sunk there. It seems I am way off in my thinking of what kind of good deal I could get.
I was expecting for this 2.5i Premium All Weather with a few accessories.. I would be in the low 25s . Right now I'm at 26256 .. or 27398 if I go for the moonroof/backup camera (which I was going to install myself (camera that is ) while upgrading the stereo I hear stinks ) and all weather mats, bumper protector cargo net, puddle lights & mud guards) .. That is 7.6% off of msrp.
We had not gotten to talk about warranties ( i've never taken an extended one before) or anything other than their 1.9% financing.
I could try to get quotes far away but that does seem like a lot of work.. I am asking a relative in PA to see if he can secure something more attractive as a comparison. Not sure if PA would be PZEV as they all are here so I have to be careful about that $300 delta.
Appreciate any advice.
I spent most of my working life in sales, usually covering very large georgraphical territories. I never owned a new car until I retired. I used to buy mid or full size sedans from people who were upside down on year old cars. I would then run them until they had 200,000-300,000 miles on them. Over the years I saw cars getting progressively better, particularly the drivetrains.
Speaking for myself and a couple of guys that worked for me the only major expenses we had on cars from the mid-1990's onward were; igniters on GM cars at 130K miles (a couple of us), full A/C replace on GM cars (lots of aluminum in the compressor which would disintegrate with heavy use-I think this has been remedied for years), microscopic cracks in intake manifolds on first generation fuel injection on Fords. Other than that we've done the usual replacement of batteries (always replaced at 4 years, regardless of mileage, water pumps and a couple of power steering pumps.
The only other drive train problem we've had was on my wife's '98 Forester, but Subaru has long since remedied that problem.
I'd pass on that warranty and invest instead in what I always considered the best warranty, REGULAR OIL CHANGES. When I was selling I did my oil religiously at 5,000 miles and tranny fluid at 35,000. That meant that there were times that I had two oil changes in one month sometimes.
BTW, our dealer offered and extended "service" package of 12 oil/filter changes for about $280. Since the Outback has synthetic oil now I bought that!
good luck
easypar
easypar
$27350 ... with these port installed things: all weather mats, rear bumper protector, cargo net, puddle lights & mud guards ... 7.6% off of msrp but pretty much at edmunds invoice.
I was expecting to be under invoice by say $500 or more.. They claim to be losing $ if we go any lower (they do include free state inspections for life of car.. free loaners for service.. etc .. but still )
Invoice MSRP
24782 26295
1620 1945 Moon/Camera
795 795 deswt
283 438 Stuff
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27480 29473
I got a super price on a factory contract and since my OB has the automatic climate control and fancy sound system, etc., it was not a tough decision. I usually pass but over the past 20 yrs. on those ESCs I did buy, I've come out ahead on more than not (I "made money" (more repairs paid for than the contract cost) on the '01 Audi A6 Avant; '98 VW Passat; '05 Toyota Matrix XRS, and '89 SAAB 900... didn't pay off on the '05 Toyota Tacoma or the '90 Acura Integra).
You had asked previously about a $300 discrepancy from what you were seeing on a website. That might be the regional distributor fee in the northeast, which other regions don't have to pay, but is a real cost to dealers in that region. Other things, like the dealer holdback and advertising, is built into the standard invoice price. So, when you take invoice, what you see on the websites is generally correct, then add the $300 on top for the NE dealers, and you should be right. Holdback, etc., is profit for the dealership.
Based on the numbers you're showing, I don't think you are getting a bad deal. It might not be the best one anyone has managed this year, but, if that's your goal, you need to expand your search radius dramatically.
Good luck!