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I dealt with Harry Dayal and he was great. I did this entirely on line, contacting pretty much all the dealers in Richmond and DC area. With Fitzgerald, it was pretty much what you see is what you get - no gimmics, no hidden fees etc. When I sent Fittzgerald's quote to the next two cheapest dealers, they both said we can't match this price, so if you can get it that cheapely, go for it, so I did!
Do you guys and gals think I got a good deal?
I just joined another great forum. I have been lurking for a few days, and am not sure about this deal.
I live in the northeast tri-state area and have been getting prices for the 2008 Rav 4 v6 4x4. The prices I have been quoted seem rather hi, but I just got a lower offer and wondering if anyone thinks it's a ok deal. One dealer gave me a price of 25 k, and another 25,248.
The most recent price quoted has been $24,345 after $500 rebate. The only other fee's would be 6% state tax, and $194 doc fee.
Base rav v6 4x4
CD Tonneau cover
RR Roof Rails
AW 17"spoke wheels
RL Daytime Running Lights
TO Towprep Package
Z1 Accessory Package
The kbb and edmunds invoice on the Rav, with all options is $24,355, and $24,360 respectively. Does anyone think I can do better at the present time in the market?
Any responses or recommendations would be much appreciated...thanks
The MSRP on the sticker is $26,987.
Jimmy Drew
Thats a $1800 difference so if all else is equal your deal is much better than mine .
You are getting $2642 off on the $24,345 off the MSRP of $26,987.
I am just starting my research but I would appreciate you PMing me with your dealers name if you do not mind. Is that even possible in this forum ?
I would think that you should be able to get $3000 off MSRP at this point on that vehicle. What does edmunds say the invoice price is on the car with all options? Also..if you are not picky about options or color..when the 2009's come on to the lot in October they are going to discount the 08's even more.
Right now though on 08's they are running 0% financing for 36 months..you can't beat that. If I buy now..I get to pick color and options. If I wait..the supply will become more limited..but the discounts will be more.
I had emailed in from the Naples Fl area earlier and received some great info on this site .
I am getting a quote here for a 2008 with factory tow package
$25900.plus taxes tags ect
I am meeting them today for the details
I was told because I searched online I am getting the "online only discount "
I can not find ANY rebates or incentives for the 08 in this area
Are there rebate incentive offers still available now?
Is this a good price?
i will ck back after I meet and get all the breakdown OTD cost ,but I wanted to see in anyone had any info on this before I met them.
Thanks for the help!
Lisa
They are within 25 miles of each other.
According to the Edmonds site there are no TOYOTA incentives at all . So thankfully you know better than Edmonds at this particular moment
Thanks
I am in NYC and how far away are you? In any event you have given (3K off MSRP) me another guideline by which to go.
I have done some more reading on the Edmunds site about Invoice ,MSRP , Holdbacks etc, and the 10 tips when buying a car. Keep me posted if you find a car please.
Thanks
edit: I am about 20 min away from Thompson.
I would start e-mailing dealers with offers of $500 below invoice and go from there. In the message box state "working dealers now..looking for best price"
OPTIONS INCLUDED
LA -Leather seats
HD -Heated seats
EJ-JBL stereo system
RL-Daytime running lights
MF-Mud guards
SR-Moonroof
TO -Tow Prep Pkg
Does the invoice vary from region to region or dealer to dealer ?
Thx
Edit..I just checked for you, and the invoice is $27,929 with all your options except mudguards. You should be able to get them for $50 installed..I would think.
Also a request to recent RAV4 owners/negotiators from Seattle side - Please do post the dealerships that were pleasant/least expensive to deal with.
thanks
But I found via this Fitzgerald Motors in Maryland and Pa via this Forum and they are listing an online price of $27,566 on a invoice of $28,807 with a MSRP of $31,563.
This delearship was mentioned by someone earlier and their site is good and I have spoken with 2 salemen who promise these are OTD prices. The one in Maryland is 3 hour drive and Pa is 4-5 hours drive but so far $800 cheaper than anyone local
THX
PGP
What are your sources for the manufactuer cash back programs that you are quoting? I have not seen any documentation stating that manufactuer rebate programs are in place for the RAV4. There was $500 cash back which ended 7/31/08. Have not seen anything advertised since that time for the northeast. My zip code is 18052. I am in the buyers market as well.
Thanks
Go to their new cars and fill out what type of Rav you want
They list MSRP, INVOICE, VIN #s etc. I have gone to site 4 times today
I would make sure the car that they are quoting is on the up and up. Man..that sounds good so far!
I
I have been negotiating over email for
2008 v6 4x4 Limited
3rd row seat
JBL spkr + Bluetooth
Sunroof
tagged along - Tow prep and alloy wheels
The best I could come up with was $17890 + TTL. I am still in the process and will post as I have an update. This is Seattle area by the way.
Fitzgerald is $810 cheaper that that price.
But I also realize that this same local dealer, that is now willing to sell me the car for $28,200 , gave me his best offer 3 days ago as $29,554. So I succeeded in getting his best price down by $1354 just from what I learned in this forum.
And I aint done yet LOL
Remember you got it for me yesterday. Then I got it myself and now I cant find the site to do it again with different options .
Do all you guys know, that the longer a dealer has a car, the lower the selling price becomes.I do not know if that lowers the invoice also? Something like that reverse thinking by dealers?
TIA
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/toyota/rav4/100920113/prices.html
The invoice price is not going to change no matter how long the dealer has the car. What will change is the depreciation of the car as it gets older. Once the 09's come out the depreciation of the car is going to be more.
Here is one example:
http://www.ourismanfairfaxtoyota.com/profile.asp?VIN=JTMBD31V686088280
Add that too the $26,960.00 ( of a comparably equipped Rav 4 V6 Limited )and I think my Fitzgerald World offer of $27,390 is better.Even if its just the delivery fee of $750 added it comes to $27,710 .
I am almost certain Fitz said no delivery fees etc . I do not know about processing fees.
I will call Fitz tomorrow and make sure there online price includes all those things ,like they say on their site.
But as usual they more info we have the better off we are .
So they have a separate delivery fee? And it's not the destination charge?
I'll tell you..you gotta be really careful with these dealers. If someone is going to purchase a car a long way from home, I would recommend that they get the dealer to fax the deal on paper to them with the total price of everything involved down to the penny. This way you would know up front, before making that long drive only to discover hidden charges when you get there. If they won't do this, then something is amiss.
Can you provide the dealer name and email me the rep that you're dealing with? I'm from Bellingham and the local dealer is offering $28,500 on a V6 Awd, Limited trim.
Options include:
* DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
* JBL IN-DASH 6-CD PREMIUM AUDIO
* LEATHER SEAT PACKAGE
* MOONROOF
* MUDGUARDS (PIO)
* SEAT HEATER
* TOWING PACKAGE
and I think dealer doc fees are extras.
Thanks.
Is this is a good deal or should I wait it out for a month or so for the '09's ??
I'm in 06460
I know this may be an unpopular post but....
I don't think people should be getting RAV4s right now, especially 6cyl 4WDs.
I really researched small vs. mid size 6cyl AWD/4WD SUVs, and while I think RAV4s may have the best offerings for the small SUV, especially the great gas mileage, Toyota is just charging too much -- only $2000-4000 off MSRP on a typically $25-35K MSRP 6cyl 4WD model.
Sticking to reliable, reasonabley priced Japanese makes -- Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, not Acura, Lexus, Infiniti -- I came to the following conclusion:
If you really want a 7 passenger car, get a CX-9 -- with $7000-$10000 off a typically $30-40K MSRP AWD model. (plus the 3rd row is a real third row) (A Honda Pilot has good deals now, too.)
If you only want a 5 passenger car, get an Xterra -- with $6000-$9000 off a typically $25-35K MSRP 4WD model. (plus you can go off-road if need be.)
I know these aren't usually considered comparisons to the RAV4, but I think my conclusions are still valid. in particular, the typical comparisions to the RAV4 have their own problems -- CRV and Elements also have no real discounts and because they are 4cyl only, they are woefully underpowered.
Again, I know the gas on the RAV4 is going to run something like $400-600/year less than a CX-9 or Xterra, but in 5 years, that is still just $2000-3000, not enough to justify the less-than-generous discounts on the RAV4. (I guess if you are going to keep the car for 7-10 years it may make sense????)
anyway, I decided I wanted a true 7 passenger car, so I got a CX-9. ($7.5K off $36K MSRP, and i think i may have been able to get another $1K off if I had negotiated a bit longer and was not worried about the specific model i wanted getting taken.)
also, if you get an Xterra, make sure to get the optional rear airbags, you save people and save money on insurance.
best
I have 5 guys offering me that car way below $29000 .
I do not know where you are but do some research using Edmunds site
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/toyota/rav4/100920113/prices.html
then go to this link http://www.fitzmall.com/fitzway/carfind/resultsa.asp
fill out the model etc and use this as an additional guide.
One of my dealers that originally said $1000 off the MSRP $ 31,353 was the most I could get off the car, has come down to $27475 via a different salesperson at the same delaer in one week.
Do your research and I think you could get almost 3K off MSRP or $500 off invoice price .
Do not get robbed no matter where you live
-NEW VEHICLE PRICING INFORMATION
-This is a New vehicle located in the state of Pennsylvania.
-Price Does NOT Include Tax, Tags, Title, Optional Dealer Processing Charge of $55.
If you select a car located in MD the processing charge for the processing charge is $99. I'm not sure why the processing charge is different depending on which state the vehicle is located since tags & title are separate line items. I would like to see some clarification on this issue.
Regarding freight charges. It is quite clear that the internet price includes freight.
I wish dealers price matched like internet companies
But I can tell you @ Fitzgerald I spoke to a salesman who told me since I am in NY I, he would email me all the paperwork and then I could fly, or drive downthere 3 hours or less and buy car , and they will give me 60 day temp plates , and I can register in New York , or New Jersey where my wife has an address.
So it seems like the tax would not be paid to them , but to the DMV of my choosing. Makes sense to me and someone mentioned buying a car recently from Fitz and they did not try to swindle him.
Even if this is a not close to you , you can use it as a bargaining tool to negotiate a better price in your region.
As I have previously said I got local dealer to come down over 2k using this ploy.
I dont see why you can not do the same .
Read posts # 2246 and #2255 to see what I mean .
Also there is a Thompson Toyota in PA offering 3K off MSRP so I believe these prices can be found wherever you are, if you keep searching.
I personally have 4 guys hounding me and lowering their offers everyday
Thanks for sharing your info. I am in eastern PA and Thompson is not too far away. Certainly, Fitzgerald is driveable for me as well. I have yet to contact any dealers for quotes but will likely 'arm' myself with the info from Fitzgerald's and see what happens. I'm not sure if I will pull the trigger in September as well. I may take a 'wait & see' October approach with 2009's coming onto the lots. Fitzgerald's already has a 2009 Limited and a 2009 Sport on their website. On the Limited, the only difference on thier internet pricing seems to be the $500 cash back. In other words, they are selling one 2008 model at about $1000 below invoice of which $500 is manufacturer cash back money. The 2009, which has no rebate (to my knowledge) is listed at $100 below invoice. The '09 Sport is another story as their present pricing is only slightly below MSRP. Suspect this is due to the attention Toyota is bringing to removing spare tire from tailgate,
I'll be curious to see if Fitzgerald's is willing to do a dealer trade to get me the RAV that I am interested in and then price it similarly to what they are presently advertising.
I am also in hold mode here. I have a few circumstances that are holding me back..one being the wife..LOL. I want to wait until October for the best deal..but my preferences for vehicle options and colors could dwindle significantly by then. Not to mention the fact that 0% financing could be gone when that month rolls around. I don't care about cashback, as I feel I would get the car for the same price anyway.
I ask them for a final price with all included without taxes, and either a separate DMV price , or 60 day temp plates and I will register it myself.
Fitzgerald says one price , internet price and states on their site there is no shipping or processing fee. Also we have someone who actually bought a car from Fitzgerald and states they did not try to scam them after they gave their price.
Holdbacks are what dealer gets off of the invoice from the manufacturer. Who cares what goes on between dealer and manufacturer. All of that is misdirection , like Magicians use to confuse us.
All we care is price OTD (out the door) pre taxes or including, as long as price is estabilished before tax.
They cant lie about that .
Also I do not know for a fact, but I dont think 3rd seat is as expensive as leather , therefore on first blanche , I think you can still do better .
I feel everyone should be willing to match Fitzgeralds price, regardless where they are .
Just my 2 cents
P.S What does TTL , and TDA stand for ?