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The I4 is more than sufficient for anything we need, and the engine and transmission seem very nicely matched. My recommendation would be to consider the V6 if you want to drive your RAV like a sports car or if you are doing almost exclusively high-speed freeway driving. I find my I4 is up to the freeway driving, but the mileage seems to suffer at high speeds (by which I mean like cruising at 70 or more).
I am very happy with my 4-cylinder. I drove the V6 and was not as impressed as I expected to be. That's not a knock on it, it just didn't impress me enough to merit the extra cost and slight dropoff in mileage. Then again, my other car is an Acura TL.
We have the AWD, since one of the reasons for the purchase was to feel more secure in driving to winter sports areas like ski resorts and cross-country ski locales. I have no recommendation of the AWD vs the FWD.
.... As the economy has slowed all businesses have less opportunities to create revenue. If we're used to having 10 customers a month to cover our overhead and now we're getting 7 we have to charge more per customer just to stay open. If the economy continues to slow the prices will go up, not down. That's just the law of supply and demand. When there is alot of demand you have to be more competitive to play.
Uh, price goes up when demand goes down? That is a new one!!
I did finally find a dealer, Putnam, in the north bay who agreed to go $500 under invoice for the exact same car. The odd thing is that when I presented Toyota Sunnyvale with the email offer from Putnam to sell at $500 under invoice, Toyota Sunnyvale still refused to budge to anything approaching invoice.
So it does pay to shop around.
And not shop at Toyota Sunnyvale if you want a good price!
The dealer I purchased from swapped (or purchased it) from a dealer 10 miles away. The dealer that had the car would not budge from a price that was more than $2000 above what we bought it for. How do they even stay in business? In addition, there were two or three minor options (like cargo net) that were on the car and never showed up in the pricing, so we got them for free. Didn't really want them, but no cost anyway. Sometimes I think the only way the dealers make money is totally in spite of themselves.
Thanks to those on this forum who reminded me to keep searching until I found a dealer who would deal.
Don't expect a huge discount on RAV4 though because, believe it or not, sales of RAV4 were up 16% in February over a year ago.
Feature wise is good even at the base level. I think it is well built, though the paint does seem to get rock chips easily.
Overall, I don't think it can be beat for the money. The room, the quality, the acceleration and braking at all very good. I do wish the seats and the headrests were more comfortable. I bought the extended warranty, so I'll be driving it 7 yrs, 100K miles.
We became friends and he was not that surprsed that I got my car for the price I paid .
I guess that proves that not all dealers are in the same financial position , and some can afford to be more firm in their pricing than others.
The moral of the story is, find the motivated dealer.SHOP SHOP SHOP till there are no dealers left in the area that you are willing to travel to, and DO NOT BE SUPRISED by the difference in price.
In my case the dealer where I bought it ,was only about 25 miles from my house .
The kicker is that I did a ton of research (Consumer's, Edmunds, etc.) on only the 2009 models so still have no idea if we got a good deal or a great deal. Can anyone tell us?
Thanks in advance.
This figure was for Canada market. In the US, Rav4 sales are down 16% for the month and 23% for the year.
My wife and I first drove the 2.4 I4 in a 2007 model RAV and we liked it well enough. Then just a couple months ago, we drove a new V6 and were completely blown away by it's power and good fuel economy for the size motor. So, we decided that was the one we wanted. Then later we drove the new 2.5 I4 and we changed our minds completely. My wife will be the primary driver and she said the V6 was way more than she wanted and the new 2.5L she liked a little better. We both thought the I4 RAV danced a little better on the curvy roads due to it being a little lighter up front. Of course, the extra $2000 more for the V6 was a contributing factor also.
The previous gap between the 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder has been closed somewhat with the new 2.5 I4. The 2.5 has 13 more horsepower than the old 2.4, YET gets 12.8% better gas mileage, so says Toyota, than the old 2.4. The fact is they are both wonderful engines and you will be able to help your buying decision by driving them. I drove about 6 different RAV's because I wanted to be sure. I went on freeways, on curvy roads, up mountains, and in traffic.
Don't be deterred from buying the I4 over its 4 speed transmission. The 4 speed is just fine and is stronger and gets better gas mileage than the Honda CRV with a 4cyl and 5 speed tranny.
If you tow over 1500 lbs, want a really fast vehicle, and got the $2,000, the V6 is for you. The major complaint with the V6 is torque steer, especially in the FWD model. And on slippery roads be very gentle on the gas peddle with the V6 because it comes out of it's socks in a hurry.
Bought a 2009 RAV4 Sport V6 for invoice less the $500 rebate.
Just came home with our 2009 Blizzard Pearl RAV4 with QY package and V6. Man, does that car have acceleration!! Scary fast!
Did you bought your car for $500 under invoice before the rebate or after? I am confuse when people say $x under invoice, is that before the rebate or after?
(1) If it was after than Final Price = Invoice - $500 + TTL
(2) if it was before than Final Price = Invoice - $500 - $750* + TTL
Which one is true?
Thank you for your help.
*In my area Rebate is $750 for RAV4.
When the SR and RL are separate they cost a lot more than the EXTRA value packages that include them plus other options for approx $2000 less .
The QY package costs $1360 if I remember correctly.It includes SR RL and LA for less than the first 2 .
If you add up the individual parts of it it they cost $33XX.xx
What is the DJ option?
Pm me for my dealer who is in Long Island , but if you are in such a rush I feel that you put yourself at risk of geting robbed
Thanks.
So I got $500 under without any rebates.
I thought that all the later build cars had some kind of extra value package .
If you look back in my old posts you will see where I discovered this $2000 rebate via the QZ QY whatever package Toyota started later on.
I pointed this out in the forum , and to a salesman who did not know about it.
IMHO I would think that any car with out this package is an early build , which you can request or find out from the vin # and was pre this in the Limited at least , $2000
creative discount .
Salesman's name?
I would give him a heads up before you go if you Private message me .
Also do your homework first, and I can call the manager and make sure he doesnt try to put something over on you. I bought the car with a detective friend of mine , so we get a little respect out there.
But have your numbers ready
Since I dont know what the DJ option is , as I should know according to you, I guess I dont know who my dealer is either.
Find out for yourself
In me experience the ealry Ravs did not have the Q packages . On the Fitzmall site the early cars had all the options listed individually.
I think when Toyota saw they were having a problem selling these cars they started the Q packages and the sticker said $2000 discount on it .
If you check the Vin numbers, I think any car without the Q package is a very early build and has a $2000 higher MSRP for comparable equipment when listed separately.
I found my car with a MSRP $30,929 at Fitz with the QY and MSRP $32xx,xx for an identical model that was produced earlier, with RL SR LA JBL RADIO etc separately . That is the point I am trying to make
I have Rav4 base quote from South East toyota dealer for $18755+tax+tag+title+dest charges.
I want to know is it a good deal or not.................
or Shall I wait for year end sale
Does such a configuraton exsists, or is it special order only?
MSRP Base = 21,500 (add $745 destination charge) TOTAL = $22,245
DEALER PAID = $20,848
Consumer information said to start negotiating @ $20,418 - I'd say you got one heck of a deal! Right now $500 cash back offer but keep in mind - I quoted only BASE - there are 6 LEVELS of this vehicle - Base being cheapest - the others are as follows:
Sport $23,955 MSRP; $22,437 Dealer invoice (sug. start price $21,973)
Base V6 $24,280; $22,748, $22,277
Limited: $25,235; $23,641, $23,151
Limted V6: $27,155, $25,438, $24,910
Keep in mind - There are dealer holdbacks ranging from $430 - $528 included in the sug. start price for negotiating and I did add in the destination charge on all above $745).
Also keep in mind - you'll NEVER find a base model. They all have something added to them. The QV Base L4 Extra Value Package is $108/$120 and includes 17' alloy wheels, roof rack, privacy glass but I did notice some OR in the literature also has daytime running lights and I think car mats. It can all be very confusing when it comes down to the actual price of these.
Good luck!
I am member here for few months but writing first time.
Someone has asked almost the same Question here before I think. But I am asking again.
Ok here is what the details are..
I want to know if it is a good deal or not???
2008 AWD I-4 Fully Loaded
-Daytime running lights
-Floor mats
-Leather seats
-Heated front seats
-JBL premium sound w/6 disk in dash CD changer
MSRP: $29,169
Invoice: $26185
I am in 6% Tax state
Tag Tax is around $225
Processing Fee $100
this is what I am getting
Price: $23,938.00
Tax: $1,436.28
Tag Title and Fee: $325.00
OUT OF DOOR: $25,699.28
So the invoice is $26185
and I am offered: $23940
The color is not one my fav. but I dont hate it either...
What do you guys think?
Should I go for it or bargain more??
How much more should I ask them to reduce?
Thanks
You can Google them.
Stay away from the woman salesperson is all I can say.
Try any of the guys as I am not allowed to give out names or phone numbers . Sorry no PM possibilty?
Contact them By email and if you get the woman refuse to do business with her. Ask for sales manager or someone over her, to get another salesperson . I had a problem with her being very pushy and the sales manager asked me if I wanted to change salesperson when he saw I was going to walk out .
I feel certain that if you have a resonable price , and they have the car in stock you will be able to do business with them, as long as you stay away from the Witch ! LOL
The sales manager came down $500 in price , from what the Witch said was his absolutely best offer. Talk to him directly if you can
Let us know
The dealer did that right off before I test-drove it when I said something about how uncomfortable the headrest was.
But, I'd be worried about the headrest working as intended..
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Still trying (without success) how to PM on this site. Clueless over here - can't find the button. Stay away from "the witch" - - - - - - - trying to find out who you used (salesman) as I see you can't post names. Can you PM me the info - perhaps it will pop up - somewhere when I log onto Edmunds.com and sign in. Thanks (what a pain).
Are you a member or RAV4world.com forum ? I joined them and get a lot of info there. My name there is RAV4ATHENS in case you are a member . If you are a member there you can PM me .
If we can not figure out a way to communicate legally , I would suggest you go into the USED car dept any day aside from Tues And Thurs and Holler out NO PROBLEM , NO PROBLEM or listen for an asian salesmen who is always saying that.
Tell him you are a friend of the guy who bought the Black Rav4 3 weeks ago from him .
I just spoke to him and told him to be aware of someone maybe in next few days
Good Luck whatever you decide
The salesman mentioned he's giving me this price based on Invoice + $100. I feel like this shouldn't be right, because invoice price is $21500, with marketing support from manufacturer ($1000), and I'm in a 7% tax region, this seems way too much to me. What should be a good deal for 2009 Rav4 (the precise price)?
I also noticed there're some new 2008 Rav4 Base in the lot, and it's 0% financing for 36 months. The invoice price for 2008 Rav4 is $19,888 (even though there's no marketing support with it). Any recommendation for the 2008 Rav4 precise price?
Just curious: Are we supposed to pay advertisement fee (That's included in the selling price)? or is it extra profit for dealership? What kind of fee should I avoid? Any other tips with negotiating prices?
Thanks and hope you all have a great weekend!
We got a great deal at a dealership in Morristown, NJ for a 2008 Limited. On paper, we got the vehicle for just a bit under invoice but they overvalued our trade-in by $2000 more than our mechanic said it was worth in it's current state. We never proposed trading in but we weren't getting our desired price on the 2009 and were ready to walk when the salesman brought up the '08 model and then returned with our price including the trade-in. They checked out the old car so I'm fairly sure they priced the trade-in to make the numbers look good on paper and still give us our price.
I would advise deciding on an out-the-door price and start lower to allow room for negotiation. Try and work with an older (read- experienced) sales person as I often find the younger guys more intent on making their nut and less likely to come down in price in order to make the sale. Let the salesman work out the details and don't get caught up in a discussion about any particular fee. As long as your final price works out, you'll be satisfied. Keep it pleasant but be prepared to walk away. Good luck
does your price include the $500 rebate? also, does your base model include 3rd row seating option?
I am looking for Black (with ash interior) LTD V4 RAV4 (either 4X4 or 2X4) but I can't find it within 200 miles of where i live.
I did found bunch of Black but they all have lite color interior. I have kids so i look for dark interior.
Is that too much to ask?
$23900 with 0%APR financing
Does it sound right or will I pay too much with this amount?
There is a newer 2.5 Liter engine in the 2009 model and who can put a price on having a year older car, with a significant mechanical change to it.
My crystal ball is broken on this one