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Here are the numbers rounded
Vehicle Sales Price: 22,000.00
Vehicle Trans fee: 25.00
Doc Fee: 150.00
Taxes: 1802.00
Not sure: $80
Total $23994
Minus trade in - $3550.
End result $20344.00
Am i shafting myself with the trade in? I am getting 60 months for 3.9apr. which bumps it up $375 a month
Please offer opinions. Thanks
Thanks
After talking with several dealers in the area, I've been getting prices ranging from 21k to 24k for the price of a base model Rav4, 4cyl, FWD, with the Base Extra Value options package. I need some guidance on what is a reasonable price.
Thanks!
The offer from a local dealer is: $20,000 (including $500 rebate and $1000 new graduate credit)+Plus tax (5%, Iowa)+title + license.
Is that a good deal?
Thanks
Darien
My question is if the dealer is saying the truth about the option not being delivered to any dealer within 6 hours driving distance of St. Louis. If so, WHY is that? Paying extra $900 for the flexibility of having 2 extra seats is a selling point for me.
IF I can't find the RAV4 with 3rd row seats, the CRV is a much better value by maybe 1.5K and higher safety ratings, better seats, better interior, better wiplash neck protection. Besides the fact that it is a piece of cake to get a Honda dealer to go down to close to Edmunds Invoice while it has proved annoyingly hard and time consuming to get a Toyota dealer to go down within thousands of invoice. They actually start by quoting prices above MSRP and then "pretend" to go down 1K or so. I am starting to think the cockiness others complained about with Toyota is not an imagined trait. I want to buy even today, but it is proving impossible to get straight answers.
If you have the money why can you get the car and options you want?
Darien
Toyota always have low inventories (probably by design). I am not sure if your dealer is telling you the truth or not but it is possible that you won't fine 3rd row configuration in your state. I am speaking by experience, I was looking for black LTD RAV4 with backup camera and i could not find single one in my state. I found one in different state (5 hours away). Not only that dealers told me "it's a regional thing". I emailed Toyota and their response was your local dealer should be able to get the config you want provided it is available at other dealers or available in production (if you are willing to wait). But the fact is dealers are more interested in selling what they have, they have little interest in getting what you want. Although Toyota did said they can force the dealer to get what you want but I didn't do that because in that i will not get the price i wanted. so it's a catch 22. Another thing, I did saw one RAV4 with 3rd row seat at one of the dealer, believe me you don't want that. It had about 2 inches between 2nd and 3rd row seat. You could only put little kids and they won't even have any room to move. If you really needs 3rd row seat, I would recommend getting different SUV.
I would disagree about CRV. Personally I didn't like CR-V interior, it has less power, less MPG, more road noise, Does not feel solid like RAV4, Consumer Reports has RAV4 as the best in the class.
Hope this helps.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/Affordable-Compact-SUV- s/grid/overall/
are the same only because they say the RAV4 has better exterior design which I beg to disagree. I don't really care much how they look, but side by side the RAV is the uglier of the two.
Gas and power I think they are tied 1MPG is not much difference, and power is kind of relative since according to all reviews the CRV is the peppier of the two (better utilization of power?)
Thanks about the comment of road noise, I will have to go and test it both in 4 cylinders, 4WD to see how they do. I agree that is very important, a long noisy ride can be very annoying.
About the 3 row seating, I am single. I want a small SUV because of the flexibility and practicality. I only like the 2 extra seats because they stow away. Else, I wouldn't want driving 2 extra empty seats 98% of the time. But when you need to drive extra friends for a short trip. The extra flexibility is well worth paying ~$800 for, IMO.
Darien
I've driven both the 4cyl Rav and CR-V on several occasions. The issue isn't horsepower or peppiness...its torque.
The CR-V feels like a Civic. The Rav-4 feels like a raised Camry.
CR-V has more road noise, less power (with lower mileage?). Read the James Healy review in USA Today. He sums it up best. Think about it, if the CR-V has less hp (or is atleast noticeably slower than the RAV4) then it shouldn't get less mileage at all. His observation was that it needs either 15% more power or 15% more fuel economy. I agree with him.
As for the interior, the Honda feels more refined but only when you are sitting still. Drive it and the engine feels a bit like a sewing machine. Cute for grocery moms but I can't imagine any grown man feeling comfortable in it.
As for looks, the Honda has a better coat of paint and is more stylish with the hidden wheel but it comes at a cost of less interior cargo space. Either way, looks are personal preference.
I guess the argument goes back and forth but the Rav4(even with the 4spd) still has more usable power (for merging, etc.) than the CR-V with better fuel economy to boot!
Good luck with your purchase.
It's simple..
RAV4: More Power, More MPG
CR-V: Less Power, Less MPG
Unless you are all about looks...
I would like to know if someone has bought the same car recently and how much paid.
Any help or comment will be appreciate it.
#1.How is final price figured. Is tax taken onthe base price, options, accessories, and the destination charge or is the destination added after the tax?
#2 Any recommended dealers who offer the best pricing? I'm finding quite a spread so far
#3 Dealers tell me they have little inventory but that a boat is due to arrive with 20 plus RAV4 base models. They can reserve one for me. In reading about the Holdback article, it says dealer must have inventory on hand and the holdback percentage is 2% for Maryland. Is this another area I can reduce my price? Can someone explain to me how cars are distributed that are being shipped in. I am assuming that they are already dedicated to a dealer. If not the case, let me know. I'm green on this.
#4. If I pay cash vs financing, should I expect a deeper discount from dealer or none at all.
Thanks
Track Rav4 prices on dealer websites that display internet pricing. I've found the following so far, just Google them for the website:
Milton Ruben (Augusta, GA)
Fitzgerald Auto Malls (fitzmall.com)...their prices are typically best
Ourisman (Fairfax, VA)
Browns (Glen Burnie, MD)
R&H (Baltimore)
Miller (Manassas, VA)
Carmax (2 locations sell new Toyotas)
For each of these, calculate their best % off MSRP for the model you want. Don't forget that several of these websites will exclude destination from the price paid, so you will have to add it back.
**Theoretically,** your local dealer should match or beat the best % off MSRP you can find online for a similar vehicle.
Autobrag.com recommends negotiating as a % off MSRP. Their website has a lot of good info as well.
Offer below the best price you think you can get, and negotiate upwards. Deal only with the dealership's Internet Department.
Good luck to all the shoppers, I hope it works...for you and me!
1. Sales tax is certainly calculated on all those items except (maybe, I just don't know) the destination charge. I don't have a sales tax in my state. A call to the franchise tax board should answer that question.
2. I would go to Fizmall and feel lucky that I could. I bought my RAV near where I live (well, 300 miles away) in Oregon. I contacted dealers from Nevada to California to Washington. Like your experience, the prices were all over the board and just too high. I eventually settled on a Limited at about $500 over true dealer invoice price. Fitzmall's prices seem to be about $500 below invoice on the Limiteds, although I do not know current rebates or incentives.
3. From what I have gathered, specific cars are allocated to the dealers, but they will usually swap them when they have a buyer for one.
4. Dealer's usually get some of the profit from financing, so I don't think you can expect a discount with cash. On the other hand, they know it's a done deal with cash if you can agree on a price. I just don't think you can do better by paying cash. Doesn't mean you shouldn't, though.
Good luck. I love my Rav, but the buying process was so painful, after a couple months I was only a couple days from walking away and going with my second choice. Hope your purchase is smoother.
I want to know some experiences and expected OTD prices for it.
Thank you!
Location: Portland, Oregon
2009 Base 4WD V4
+ QV Additional Package
+ Bluetooth
+ All Weather Mats
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$ 23,000 + title fees
MSRP was like 24,500
How much under Edmunds invoice can be expected right now?
thx
Location; Spokane, WA
Silver, QY, BC, TO, CF (Carpet/Cargo Mat Set (5pc set))
Paid $28,930 + registration/sales tax
Google "Cash For Clunkers" for the latest.
$27200 plus reg & tax.
Is this price fair? thanks
I am looking at a base Rav4 for my wife with either 4cyl or a V6. The lowest price I got quoted is the following
4cyl + QV, Mat MSRP $23964, quoted $21835 + tax/title
V6 + QW, TO, Mat MSRP $26039, quoted $23988 + tax/title
both prices quoted are after $500 cash back. Are those prices fair? Thanks.
bought an 08 ,plain jayne 4 cylinder model off lease for 17900...the amazing fact was the generous trade in on my 08 honda fit...
rav had 26 k miles while my fit had 32k !!go figure.
Mine has 4WD, extra value package QY, backup camera, and other odds and ends that I didn't want. MSRP was $29,000. I paid $27,000 and don't think I did particularly well. This was in January, so there were no incentives or cashback. I really love the car and am very happy. Good luck.
Base MSRP ($27,810)
Back-up Cam ($475)
Carpet Floor Mats/Cargo Mat ($199)
Extra Value Package #1 ($1360)
Tow Prep Package ($160)
Wheel Locks ($81)
Delivery ($800)
Total MSRP = $30,885
I was able to talk them down to $28,802 and got $200 over KBB Good Trade value on my 2006 Corolla (which I was pretty happy about because it needed some body work and new tires). I also got the 3.9% APR financing and the $1000 college rebate because I'm currently enrolled as a graduate student (it pays to read the fine print on the TFS website). After college rebate, the final price was $27,802.
I did all of my haggling via email before I even went to the dealer. I emailed about five different dealers in the area until I found the best price at Toyota of Lancaster in PA. While haggling, all the dealers wanted to call me to discuss the details but I just told them that I couldn't answer the phone at work and preferred to discuss the price over email. For me, that was the low stress approach as I really don't like to talk to salespeople on the phone. I did end up talking to one dealer on the phone and it ended up taking over an hour just to get a price out of him. I’ll never do that again. They will give you a price over email if you ask them and for me it worked just as well.
Once I was satisfied with the best price via email, my wife and I went to the dealer and asked the salesperson to give us the full treatment. When I say that, I mean that we asked him tell us all about every little detail of the vehicle. The way I figure it, you want to allow the salesperson to feel like they've done their job before you start talking numbers. We did a complete walkthrough of the vehicle and all the options. We went for a 20 minute test drive on both the highway and back roads. I was pretty happy with the vehicle and the way it handles. Also, the 269 Horsepower helped a little bit too! Then after we were completely satisfied with the choice, we went inside to talk numbers.
As I said, we went to this dealer for the very first time already agreed on a price for the vehicle ($28,802). That one detail made for a very low stress visit. The only thing that we needed to work out at the dealer was the trade value. Of course we couldn’t do that via email because they need to look at your trade and drive it around to assess the value.
I told the dealer that if we could work out the right trade value, I'd drive it off the lot today. I pulled out an advertisement from another dealer that had a coupon for "up to $2000 over KBB Fair Trade Value". I told him that I was looking to get at least $1700 over KBB Fair Trade Value (which is $9000 for the 2006 Corolla). He said that he would talk to his manager but he didn't know if they could get that much for it. He came back with $200 over the KBB Good trade value ($8500), which I was pretty happy with. The car had a few paint scratches, a big dent in the rear quarterpanel, needed new tires, and needed to be cleaned inside because of my kids love to throw their Cheerios and Apple Juice on the floors and seats.
Make sure you eat before you go to the dealer as it does take a long time! In total, I ended up spending about 4 hours at the dealer finalizing everything. It also really pays to work out the price before you go because we didn’t even talk about it until it was time to do the paperwork and that really lowers the stress level. I actually really enjoyed the visit and I feel like I got a pretty good deal in the end.
The next step is to find an after market tow hitch as the Tow Package conveniently doesn’t include the hitch – how strange. Also, I think I’m going to look for a rooftop storage container as the luggage space in the back still isn’t quite large enough for all of the crap that I have to lug around for my kids and wife. Haha.
Best price I got was 24600 out the door for a base model which i think is pretty expensive.
$23820 out the door.
I am pretty sure i could've gotten a better deal but she didn't want to wait and made the purchase.
Plaza Toyota in Brooklyn, NY wanted to give me a better price and claimed they were able to beat $23500 out the door so if anyone in the tristate area is interested.
I am trying to finalize my purchase. did you have navigation? I'm pretty jazzed..thanks for your writing...I am only negotiating on internet also.
rosemary
san diego
Details:
RAV4 4x4
Extra Value Package
5-Piece Carpet Floor & Cargo Mats
OTD $22981
Good luck!
I bought my 2007 Sienna at Copeland. Painless buying experience. Got the price over the phone, and bought the van at that price. It was one of the last 2007's that they received- arrived on Friday, I bought it Saturday. Was in and out of rthe dealership in only a few hours.
This contrast's with Boch- ugh. Had a deal on a Highlander (what we REALLY want) but they backed out when we handed over the CC for the deposit. Wasted 4 hours of my life.
Did you trade as well? I'm looking ot trade a 10 year old VW. So far I'm insulted by what dealers are looking to give me for it. KBB and NADA aren't even close to what they are offering.
Since there are no rebates on the rav right now, we're waiting until after the 7th and the new program hits. We're not losing anything by waiting.
Just paid $24700 OTD for
2009 Rav4 AWD
extra value package
dealer installed heated leather seats
Carpet mats
Mudguard
How did I do? Thanks
I'm new to Los Angeles and want some help with my purchase of the RAV 4.
I'd like to find other recent out-the-door pricing on the 2009 RAV 4 sport, which would contain the following specs:
-V6
-4x2 (FWD)
-Options package = "QX" = Sport Extra Value Package-
-Dark charcoal fabric interior (NON-LEATHER)
-black exterior
What is the best price out there?
Thanks very much!
Rav4 I4 4WD base Sticker $24019- quoted 22k even.
Rav4 Sport I4 4WD Sticker $25870 Quoted $23900 with FE (50 state emissions) QX (Sport Extra Value Package (savings of $1000)-includes Daytime Running Lights (DRL), black roof rails and cross bars, power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade, AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with integrated XM Satellite Radio receiver (includes 90-day trial subscription), MP3/WMA playback capability and six speakers)) and CF Floormats
I want to know some experiences and expected OTD prices for it, and I live in Rochester, Minnesota.
Thank you!
1. Base 2009 4WD - 10K miles - $19,000 - White
2. Base 2009 4Wd - 8K miles - $24,000- Silver
Apart from the colors, there is no other difference in feature (from what I see in the advt and what I heard from the dealer). Even the carfax shows both the vehicles are corporate fleet lease vechicles owned by a single owner for approximately 6 months and no problems.
I am more interested in buying the one that is $19,000 (plan to bargain it to $18K + TTL). Anything fishy with this one as I see a $4K difference in the price between the two? Please help.
Thank You!