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I've not heard about the stereo window before, but if it's under warranty, then cost is not sn issue. The dealership should change out the unit if that is what's necessary.
Not for the quartz interior. I guess if you want the shiny Armorall look, then anything will appear faded. Turtle Wax has a vinyl/plastic/whatever potion that I used sparingly once and it looks good, even though my quartz dash hasn't faded.
Let's just say that I hope that the TL's dash issue is not going to occur in my new MDX's black interior as well.
I don't park in the sun that often though.... the car is garaged at work and at home.
As for the stereo, didnt think about the warranty.
If the car is under warranty, they should fix it, regardless of cost or method.
As for the Quartz interior...
***no offense, this is just my opinion***
I hate the Quartz interior and would avoid any Acura purchase if I had to settle for it, just to avoid fading issues.
I like the Black, which doesn't include the Genuine Plastic Wood.
Yes, I know, the MDX has it as well, but it's the Wife's car... so it's not my issue.
Where does one find Black ZebraWood Plastic trees anyway?
I thought they were extinct.
For a safe cleaning solution, use 6 parts water/1 part Wollite.
Works throughout the interior, including the leather.
I'm almost looking forward to my Bridgestones (currently 17,000+ miles, still good tread) wearing out so I can replace 'em with better snow handlers. Even if they still have reasonable tread life come the fall, I may replace 'em anyway. Just poor in the snow.
No "Harmonic Vibration," one rattle taken care of, radio/CC screen fine, leather still looks good...
Great car.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Do you have any guess as to what mey be causing it?
Do you park in the sun a lot?
How often do you clean/moisturize the dash?
Do you scrub it with steel wool and razor blades?
(Ok, that was just a funny)
Or is it just a sign of sub-par material?
Please don't mind the questions, I'm just a guy with a short list of cars on the potential buying list.
BTW, Aaargh... I'm adding the '07 Infiniti G35 AWD to the list along with the '07 Lexus IS
I've persoanally never likes the G before, but Autospies is showing some really nice things in store for the 07
Of course, the '07 TL intrigues me as well, with that new 300 HP Type-S option.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but the upper dash (the part that fades) is the same color for all TL interiors.
I have the parchment interior with the fake wood trim. I think it looks fine, even though it is fake.
The Dash was Black.
Are they all Black on the Dash Top?
Now that I think of it, you may be right.
Got 33 mpg on a recent trip to DC. Followed a new GTO for a few miles @ 105mph in the boondocks until I decided to chill. Great car. No complaints.
I'm not sure if the "dash fade" is just collecting dust/lint/pollen or a degassing? My TL is not in the sun, garaged at home/work, excessively and I may not have even noticed it had I not read about it here. Maybe this weekend I'll try cleaning it up, I don't want an Armor-All shiny dash either. I'll be due for a service soon, if I take it to the dealer, I'll mention it again. I'll bet Sal Zaino could take care of it...!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
If it's the same thing I'm thinking of, it's my understanding this dash spotting/fading has to do with the location where the passenger side airbag is located. I think there might even be a TSB or service buleltin on it. Dealer uses some kind of Honda cleaner I believe, but I've also seen a lot of owner recomendations for 303 Aerospace protectant....Found it...Acura Service News 12/05
Dashboard Looks Faded or
Blotchy
Got an ’04–06 TL in your shop with a faded or
blotchy-looking dashboard? (It’s called the
instrument panel in the parts catalog.) What’s
probably causing this is the compatibilizer
material in the dashboard is migrating through the
cover. After the material ages, proper cleaning
and an application of vinyl protectant should
restore it to showroom condition. Keep in mind,
though, if you clean the dashboard before all that
material has migrated, you may need to clean it
again and reapply the protectant.
To clean the dashboard, first moisten a clean,
white towel with Acura Spray Cleaner/Polish
(P/N08C25-P011M), then rub the panel vigorously
until the discoloration goes away. Clean the
dashboard twice in different directions to get the
best results.
After you’re done cleaning, moisten another fresh
towel with Acura Vinyl/Leather Protectant
(P/N 08740-PC008), and liberally apply this
product to the dashboard. Do this twice in
different directions to make sure all areas get
covered.
Avoid spraying the cleaner or vinyl protectant
directly on the dashboard. These products are
tough to remove from glass, and glass cleaners
could stain or discolor the dashboard.
I had heard that Acura was secretly offering the cleaning products to customers, but when I asked my dealer about it they said they'd take care of it. And did. My dash looks fine, but I'll give it a clean this weekend anyway. I vacuumed the interior and treated the leather last weekend. Four coats of Zaino this year has the exterior looking pretty sharp!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
But the Abyss Blue is very, very shiny...
Good stuff. Great car.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
When rolling down the windows, its noisy- kind of a rubber on glass sound? only had the car for 3 months now. both windows do it.
He told me that the biggest complaint they see is how the windows seat.
The seats are very tight and can actually make a rubbing sound.
He suggests slightly tapping the window switch to lower the windows a fraction of an inch to avoid the rubbing sound while driving.
He mentioned nothing about the sound for the entire motion range of the window though.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
A can of silicone costs about $2.00 at Walmart - try it on a small section on a rear window - after you prove that no oil film shows up - then use it on the rest of your windows.
Real acura quality.
Very suspicious.
I am getting a little bummed regarding how many TLs I am now seeing on the road! I know it's a mass produced car, but it was somewhat unique-ish for a while. The TL must be doing something right to be reproducing at such an alarming rate! :surprise:
No line of auto is going to produce 100% perfection. Especially when some survey respondents consider the fuel economy of their Hummer's to be a "defect!" :P
The TL, besides Ted's,is a wonderful car. Especially if you Zaino it... (now you just knew that was coming! :shades: )
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
What is this problem, and is there a fix?
In fact, I'm not sure what posessed anyone to buy one.
I was at the Acura dealer last week dropping off some paperwork from my new MDX purchase, and as they always do, they were trying to sell me into a new TL.
I was in the service dept talking about known TL issues.
The whining sound is common, and is coming from some shield somewhere.
The guy told me but I lost interest in his droning car techy talk.
Call service, they are aware of the problem.
(At least Acura of Auburn, MA is)
Call Jeff @ 508-832-0444
He can tell you what it is.
Your right I should just forget about the experience and move on but I am interested and somewhat amazed that many of the problems that I experienced on a very early model TL are still being discussed and experienced by new tl owners almost three years later!
Examples:
The tires
Fading dashboard
Vibrations
Wearing leather
Rattles
etc...
Any company can make a mistake, and most do, but at least make an effort to correct the problem. There is no excuse for Acura to continue to use Bridgestone tires. Or, to continue to use a low quality dashboard that is prone to oxidation and fading...where is the quality?
When I experienced these problems, Acura would not even let me speak to company rep. For two years they denied the car even had a Harmonic vibration and then they issued a TSB on how it could be covered up.
I had to sue them to get their attention...talk about poor customer service
But the biggest reason I visit this form is to see how others new TL owners are faring and dealing their concerns.
Should I have the glass done yet again? Spoke with the dealer and he says there's no difference b/w the ppg and the "honda" marked windshield, though I'm considering getting "honda" glass next time around (although isn't it made by ppg?) as a possibility.
Is this a normal distortion due to the curve of the windshield? If so, why was it not apparent with the stock windshield? Is it normal for aftermarket windshields?
Would I be causing or risking a different problem by having the windshield taken out and replaced a third time? Or are windshield replacements no big deal.
Does such a distortion indicate a structural or unsafe flaw in the glass or is it just a distortion?
Any help and enlightenment I could get on this subject will be much appreciated. Many thanks in advance.
Welcome - I hope we can help.
Thanks!
It's a flaw that should be fixed.
The MDX door panels do not vibrate, but there is a 10" sub in the rear passenger corner. The outside fender vibrates like crazy when the stereo is up to a moderate volume and sounds like crap on the outside of the car.
Personally, I'm not impressed with Acura's sound systems.
Bryncerdd
To be sure, check your manual.
No door rattles that I'm aware of in my '05. Except, of course, for the detritus I throw in the door bins...
Windshield is fine, no "harmonic vibraton," "faded" dash was cured with a cleaning by the dealer. leather is okey-dokey and Bridgestone Turanza tires still stink in the snow.
Great car. Great looking car! For those who are trying to justify a TL over a loaded Accord, just look at 'em both! The TLs looks are worth the premium alone!
I'm so superficial... :shades:
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)