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I know how you feel. My eyes are getting old also!!! Should have been around when I was a "double posting geek"!!!!
It's nice to get a response back once in a while.
Qmeister: I wonder if Ford has a multiple CD disc changer/player that could be hooked up with your existing radio system??? I'm not positive but I believe that the Excursion, Expedition and Explorer can be ordered with that option and they certainly don't have a Cadillac ride. Whether or not your system could accept this option --- I don't know. Any way --- GOOD LUCK.
"It's 115 degrees...but it's a dry heat"....what a crock....I burned my ga-got-chees off......
Just kidding with ya.....Happy New Year...
Hey ....my first post from the bunker is Y2K compliant!!!!
tom18... "struggle" over there a little. sometimes this gives one the best learning tool available. all the vopc info IS posted in the faq section. it is also posted in all prior threads on this forum at one place or another. however; if you're still "struggling after a few days I'll send you a direct email reply. okay? just don't "give up" so easily if you can't resolve the thing in a few seconds. so keep up with the trying.
crazyelvis... still waiting. now beginning our 4th month (3 months at 12/30/99). the thing ought to be "at the ramp" by now as it was shipped via conrail on 12/14. the vopc's been slow about updating though, due to the holidays so will probably know more next week. we really expect that truck soon! but until it's "at the ramp" we just don't know. do know one thing, though. the dealer relies on that vopc check quite heavily. obviously they can tell us little more than the automated vopc process can once it leaves the factory. ford-diesel.com says the same thing. some people have waited up to 2 months after the build b4 they see their truck so it looks as though the delivery process is pretty much a crap shoot! we are now at 4 1/2 weeks from truck build (of 11/27). oh, well. will keep you posted.
all... have a happy & safe new year's.
But Elvis never did elaborate as to whether he retrofit his bunker door!!!!
He may be stuck in there until, God forbid, the warranty runs out on his Super Duty!!!!!
Heyyyyyyyyyy Elvis !!!!!!!!
Happy New Year everyone!!
To the person asking about the headlight switch, I checked my truck last night. Found that the switch on these trucks does have an extra pull out feature. You turn the headlights on and off by clicking switch left and right, but after you turn on the lights the switch can be clicked to another position, in and out. Switch will not pull out if lights are off. This appears to be a factory provision for foglights.
Happy New Year to everyone. So glad to see that Y2K didn't knock out the best forum on the WEB!
YES - you should have a 7 pin travel trailer wire hook up ( includes brake and a charging capability for a battery system on the trailer ) along with a separate 4 pin boat trailer wire harness.
My wire harness is mounted to the left of the receiver. The wiring that is in the plastic bag is for your trailer brake actuator. There is a plug, inside the fuse panel, under the steering column, up toward the right side. Plug it in, hook up the loose wires to the actuator of your choice, put in the fuses supplied and SHIZZZAM! you're in business.
Maybe, if you didn't order the receiver, the wiring bundle could be "tucked up" under the rear bumper somewhere. Take a look and GOOD LUCK!!!
Color. Really like the gold w/black, but not available in XLT, so oreder the silver. Dealer suggested getting gold, then having black accent added after market (not necessarily by him). Any thoughts?
Sliding rear window/privacy glass. Who likes the slider and what are some benefits? Tinting requires the sliding rear window. Again, dealer said they could do the dark tinting after market for a little more than the factory price.
Cab steps. read some posts about their adequacy, just trying to decide now. This guy is confident that the order will take 8 weeks or less! Says they send in 5-6 Superduty orders per day! Nothing in writing yet. We'll see Monday when I get the paperwork.
Roof Clearance Lights. For the price, they really make the truck look good. But I'm a little concerned about moisture infiltration as mentioned in previous posts.
The dealer also indicated that the V10 production would be stepped up so the trucks would become more available. Maybe price will start to come down. Anyone interested, it looks like 3% over plus advertising and gas. Here in AZ, that's a pretty smokin deal! EVERYBODY wants this truck>
Happy New Year!!
F250 SD, CC, Lariat, V10, limited slip 3.73, 5 spd manual, ESOF, captain's chairs, Badger Red clearcoat.
Dealer told me wait might be on the short side because it's a five speed. Anyone believe that??
looks. Would you order this combination again now that you've got your truck or would you prefer single color-amber. Would appreciate your opinion.
I got my first oil change the other day. Used the 5W30 oil reccomended in the manual. Man...it seems to run MUCH better!! Smoother and quieter...maybe I'm imagining things...but it seems to run better.
The oil change cost me $22 total. I thought that was a good price seeing it takes 7 quarts. I will try to get them done at the dealer...free....but I was not anywhere near and didn't feel like driving the hour + to just get the oil change.
Still getting 12.5 mpg in the city....00 250 CC V10 3.73 SB Lariat....
Oh well...maybe I can sell some sucker this bunker for the year 3000.....ELVIS lives FOREVER!!!!!
Right or wrong?
replaced. All were under warranty. Another friend
had 115k miles and had his fuel injectors rebuilt.
After 15k miles they are giving him trouble again. The Ford dealer quoted him $4000 to put in new ones. Does this sound right? Isn't this a little high? Are private diesel shops much cheaper? I'm debating to buy v10 or PSD but this
injector thing makes me nervous. Happy New Year!
The SuperDuty has other features that give it the 8800 gvw. Heavier chassis, springs, brakes, tranny, clutch, driveline, axles, tires all contribute to the 8800 gvwr capacity.
Mac
By far the most peaceful trip we've had in a long times since the 2 kids were so comfortable in the crew cab (vs the extended cab we traveled in the last 6 years).
Better go get the "break-in oil" out of it...
p.s.
Saw a pretty good set of personalized license plates on a SD in Nebraska--I8A RAM
and 2000". No one responded. Does anyone out there
have an answer? Would the new intercooler they
added to help cool the heads give longer life to the injectors?
Its not a fix, but might help.
I am in Florida and it is fairly flat, however, when I went over the Skyway Bridge which is long and fairly high (Ocean going ships go under it), at 60 and 70 MPH, the power was super. Didn't drop RPM's and ran like it was on flat ground.
Added the Viper 550ESP alarm and works great. Has the remote start and allows you put in valet mode so you can remove the key while the truck is running. You can lock the doors and leave while the turbo cools down. If someone attempts to steal the truck, the moment the brake is touched, it shuts down. All during this time the alarm is going off. Can set the cool down for 12,24 or 60 minutes. If you get the alarm, be sure they install the diode in the system. Otherwise, you will have dead batteries withing two days... I know.
Added polished stainless steel fender trim and really makes the truck look nice.
When I asked about an exhaust brake, the dealer would install a Power Braker which runs off the turbo warm-up valve. Cost was $900. This is as close to dealer/manufacturer recommending an exhaust brake that I have found. If you do a search you will find many similiar brakes for as little at $250.00. Having PB installed tomorrow, will let you know how it works.
Sorry to take so much space, however, I thought it may be of value to some of the readers.
Lewac, hope you have yours by now.... really great vehicle.
Marv
Ordered: 9/25/99
Built: week of 12/6/99
shipped: 12/10/99
Arrived in Oklahoma 12/29/99
As of today, VOPC still says my unit shipped via rail with expected delivery week of 12/25 ....
Things that have really impressed me:
-It is really quiet in the cab
-The radio w/CD is super quality
-The ride is much better than I ever expected ... not quite as good as a couple of town cars i've had, but IT IS GOOD.
Thanks to the folks that gave me the height dimensions and to GOSSAMAR ( I think) for actually measuring his truck. As a reminder: My garage door height clearance was 80 inches exactly. The owners manual says that a 00 250 CC w/4x4 is 80.8 inches. GOSSAMAR (I think) measured his to be 80.8 ( I think) inches. ANYWAY .... I have about 3 inches to spare and my SD fits in the garage. Hard to believe that the trucks can vary in height that much ....
Got about 250 miles on it already and computer says 12.0 MPG ...... BUT .... to quote OTURNER1 ..... WHO CARES!!!!! Happy motoring until later ....
For those with front end squeaks...my appointment with dealer to install new bushings is in about 2-hours....will report back later this evening as to whether this solved the problem, or truck goes back to shop!!
I also got the "bag" of wiring with the trailer towing package. Have not had a need to install yet, but as stated earlier, the receiver is another option...but my 2000 did arrive with both adapters.
Crazyelvis...we are suppose to get about 3-inches of snow tonight...want me to fed-ex you some????
No problem with getting the measurements...that is what we are here for!! Glad that it does fit in the garage, just watch those PTT mirrors while going in/out of garage!! Have had a few close calls with mine if the wife doesn't get her car over enough! Keep us posted.....
oturner1 thanks for the info.
I've gone to KBB.COM to price out a 250SD 4x4 XLT CC 5.4L, AT, Skids, trailer package, Anti-lock brakes, Shift on fly, and a similar F150 Super Crew 4x4 XLT 5.4L as I plan to shop via the internet or order from dealer who will accept KBB / Carpoint / Edmunds invoice pricing plus $100 - $300! Interesting to note that there is only a few hundred dollars difference between the two trucks when you complete the options list! KBB invoice for the SD was $28,294 and the 150 SC was $27,898.
Can someone assist in the following ?'s:
1) Is it true that many dealers will accept an order for $100 above these invoice prices?
2) When ordering an SD XLT package, are the cab steps, rear privacy glass, rear sliding window and AM/FM CD included as standard.
3) What are the advantages/disadvantages of the limited slip axle? Do I really need one? I believe the only option I have is the 4.10 ratio due to the 5.4L engine option.
4) Do I pay the extra for anti-lock brakes?
5) What can I expect for fuel mileage for around town?
Your comments will be greatly appreciated. Also, I live in the Seattle area and a recommendation on a dealer who "wants the business" would also be appreciated.
1. Yes. Many dealers will accept a $100- to $200-over invoice deal. In fact, I think anyone who pays more than $500 over is should have kept looking.
2. The items you listed are not standard. Look closely at the Edmund's info you have...If it isn't listed as standard, or it has it's own price, it's probably not an option. Your salesperson will clear any of that up when you order.
3. If you're getting the 4X4, I'd get the LS axle.
4. ABS is an option and you pay extra for it.
5. Flip back through these posts. There are a ton of comments from enthusiastic owners about their mileage, both good and bad.
I'd recommend either Billingsley Ford in Lawton OK (talk to Carl Clingenpeel), Anderson Ford (Sharon Law) in Illinois, or Fred First Ford in Spokane. They all went to $100 over invoice for me. I ended up ordering mine from Billingsley due more to how they treated a friend with his deal. I'm in North Pole Alaska and am traveling a helleva long way for a good deal. Good luck.
Also, this is just my opinion but I should be safe to express it on this site... If you want a pretty truck, get the 150. But if you want a good looker that'll both work for you and intimidate the crap outta most other rigs on the road, you can't go wrong with the SD.
For DONRAVIS, ditto to northpole1's response, although I believe that cab-steps and ABS are standard on the Lariat package. I also would definately recommend the LS option for what-ever axle ration you choose. I was able to get my Y2K 4x4 XLT with almost every option except ESOF and paid just over $29,000 with $500.00 over invoice factored in. Happy shopping.....
My particular dealer was able to do $100 over invoice, however demand on these trucks is high.
It's my opinion that any deal less than $600 over invoice is pretty good.. ie. You should try to not pay more than 3% over invoice, as the dealer can sell every truck at 3% over invoice and make a good living!
They are great trucks and worth every penny you pay for them, no matter what price you end up with!
A2: All of the items you mention ARE NOT STANDARD with XLT on the SD. (I know because I happen to have all of those on my truck).
A3: It's my opinion you will want the 4.10 gear ratio anyway. Also, limited slip is very useful and will allow you to get the most of your 4x4 adventures.
4x2 w/o limited slip = 1 wheel drive,
4x2 w/ limited slip = 2 wheel drive ,
4x4 w/o limited slip = 2 wheel drive,
4x4 w/ limited slip = 3 wheel drive
I think for a truck this heavy, the 3.73 might be a little tall of a gear in some terrains. (see A5 below)
A4: The SD XLT comes standard with REAR antilock only. For 4w ABS you have to pay extra.. Note, many of the dealer source books are WRONG on this issue.. I know from personal experience.
A5: From experience on this forum, folks with 4x4, CC, and AT are averaging in the 11 to 13 range for mileage.. This seems to be the same for both the 3.73 and 4.10 rear end.
There have been some complaints of low mileage (10 or less) with the 5.4L CC AT 3.73 mainly from folks who do mostly local/rural/city driving. Its my theory that they may have been better served with the 4.10, which would allow the tranny to be in higher gears more and not shift as much. (again, just my opinion)
I am averaging 15.3mpg mixed driving, but my truck is very different from what you are looking at.
Y2K F250 XLT SC 4x2 5.4L, 5sp, 4.10LS
Since cost doesn't appear to be an issue, I'd recommend driving them both and seeing which one you feel the most comfortable in. If you're not doing any heavy hauling or towing that necessitates the F-250, your decision may actually come down to which one you think looks the best.
As far as price, most of us had good luck finding deals under $1,000 over invoice with the Superduty trucks despite the high demand. Many of us did better than $500 over. I expect the Supercrew to be in high demand as well, so you may have to hunt for a deal. Chances are, you will run into similar delivery delays as we've had with the Superduty and Chevy has had with the Siverado.