Toyota TACOMA vs Ford RANGER - IV

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  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    enthusiasts who know their 302's from their 351's.....
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Your post of the Insurance Institute is basically supportive of the Govt site. Front end crash test is ok on both vehicles. You raise a good point on the larger version of the trucks and how they would rate. I think sometime this year they are suppose to be tested and should be interesting.

    Yes all trucks can get stuck, which gives credit to the driver in many situations. But if you suck water, you will stop until you change fluids and or rebuild the engine. There seemed to be a very dry section of road to the drivers side of the mud. That is where you would have seen my Ranger.

    reddog:
    You will find your answer here: http://beseen2.looksmart.com/boardroom/j/21453
    or here:
    http://www.classicautoworld.com/details/612.htm
    or here:
    http://fordpower.hypermart.net/ets.html

    Since you are think you know about Fords, tell me about the Ford 332cid V8? By the way the 351cid was the mainstay of Fords until the 390cid camd out. The 302 was, as I recall, a stroked or bored 289cid engine which was the Mustang engine for many years.
    Also, tell me the displacment of the 1964 1/2 Mustang, ok? I know it, do you?

    But then again, perhaps we should stay on topic.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Interesting post on the 944 board:267 of 277:

    mrwhippy2 (bud_light_dude) Thu 20 Jan '00 (07:13 PM)

    You can easily and reliably get V8 power out of
    the Tacoma engine with TRD's supercharger. Toyota
    will even warranty it along with the factory 60k
    mile warranty as long as you have them install it.

    However, be cautious. I question the Tacoma's
    transmission with the supercharger and towing. You
    can easily put the truck into tow conditions that
    the engine will do with power to spare, but the
    transmission is shelled from too much torque and
    strain.

    Good luck
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Great choice! I hope you enjoy your y2k Tacoma!

    Looks like the majority of the shoppers are picking the tacomas after viewing this site.
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    Average? Tacoma came out better than the Ranger in the test. I would like to see the results of a
    test between the 4wd compact versions in the same weight class. Fact is that the institute regards
    the frontal offset crash as the mainstay in assessing the structural crash worthiness.

    I have in the past liked the 351 Cleveland engine over the Windsor.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    I think I read that most of the crashes are front or almost front impact. One test I saw hit from the drivers side front but not dead on front.

    Side impacts are an indicator of a "T bone" hit. You get a great deal less metal to protect you in those types of crashes. Knock on wood, I have had not had either of the crashes.

    Yes agree, the Cleveland was better than the Windsor. Same size, 2 totally different engines.

    There are a number of people that have put 302's in Rangers. There is a site or two dedicated to them. Guess they have a bit more disposable income than me.

    For the record, the 332 was in my 59' and was the old truck engine used by Ford.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    Way off on the "mainstay" comment, the 351 W was introduced in '69 with the Cleveland being introduced in '70. The 390 was part of the FE family which dates back to the '50's with the 390 being introduced in the very early '60's(60?) The first Mustangs had 260's in them but what was the original displacement of that family of engines. Hint; Carroll Shelby used it for the first AC Cobra hybrid in '61.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    It was a 265ci V8. It was bored to 289ci a year or two later. Then, it was stroked to 302. If I'm not mistaken, a version of this 302 (albeit technologically enhanced over 30yrs) still resides in the 5.0L V8 Explorer.

    Oh yeah, the other engine offered in the Mustang was a 200ci I6. I actually had a version of that engine in my '81 Mustang. Coupled with inefficient, power-robbing smog equipment, a 1bbl carb, and an exhaust manifold that looked like straws coming out of the block, it was a real dog. At the time of my mustang ownership, I had neither the skills or funds to improve performance.
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    Spoog lives in Illinois??!! and talks about offroading! LOL, LOL, LOL. Come to the NW spoog and see what the real outdoors is like, LOL. Don't you talk to me about offroading again bud, Illinois, LOL
    This room is the one of the busiest here at Edmunds. In 24 hours you could have over 20 posts easy.
    But I have to say, after reading and thinking about all the we all have posted have we gotten anywhere?
    Thanks for the crash test data. The Sun is shining here, a good day to wash the Ranger and get some of that good ole NW dirt off!
    See you in the hills!
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    YEs, I live in Illinois, with lots and lots of muddy farm fields containing the nations richest soil. My family owns land in Northern Wisconsin and Michigans Upper PEninsula ( they have Wolves there, which Washington and Colorado does not).

    Its Canadian Shield country, with the oldest rock known to man, the Precambrian Shield. Its hilly, muddy, swampy terrain.

    I also frequently visit my friends cabin near Pagosa Spring s Colorado. It's actually only a couple hours from Cspounsers place, except its on the west side of the divide.

    I find the offroading in the northwoods to be more varied, and usually more difficult. There's alot more standing water, mud, ect.

    Im a huge outdoorsman, so I like anywhere there is a bit of wilderness such as the northwoods, Colorado, Washington.
  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    showing some real FORD background and history, I had checked some of those sites before and waiting on the others but so far this is what I got from the 'stang boys:

    Listen to this from BOSSMAN at www.boss302.com:
    "I think (key word think) Ford waited until the
    very last moment and made the decision to scrap the
    boss 302 program and go ahead with a limited run
    Boss 351 using the standard 300 hp Cleveland
    with solid lifters and higher compression. By
    then, it is possible that Ford had actually begun
    production of pieces that would eventually form the
    71 Boss 302. We have all seen the pics
    in Farr's book of the 71 Boss 302 decals. "I'm getting close....here's more:
    "Ford went so far as to create finished print andoutdoor ads
    touting the '71 Boss 302 -- that's how close itcame to regular
    production. Considering how close it came toproduction, is it
    possible a few Boss 302's actually escaped fromthe factory and
    somehow ended up in the hands of a select few?
    They made "BOSS" 351 engines for the 71's but Ican't find
    any "BOSS 302's"(see below):The engine codes on the 71's, the 5th digit shows
    it in the VIN.L-250 6 cylF-302 210HPH-351 240HPM-351 280HP (CJ)
    R-351 330HP (BOSS)C-429 370HP (CJ)J-429 375HP (CJ-R)"and more:
    "There were over 800 production EXCESS BOSS 302
    motors sold thru Fred Jones Ford that were DIZEmotors slated for the 71 cars"

    Now if I can just find my papers with my VIN......
  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    Here's the 2nd part again:

    Here's more on the 71 BOSS:
    "Ford went so far as to create finished print and outdoor ads touting the '71 Boss 302 -- that's how close it came to regular
    production. Considering how close it came to production, is it possible a few Boss 302's actually escaped from the factory and
    somehow ended up in the hands of a select few...

    They made "BOSS" 351 engines for the 71's but I can't find any "BOSS 302's"(see below):The engine codes on the 71's, the 5th digit showsit in the VIN.
    L-250 6 cy
    lF-302 210HP
    H-351 240HP
    M-351 280HP (CJ)
    R-351 330HP (BOSS)
    C-429 370HP (CJ)
    J-429 375HP (CJ-R)

    and more:
    "There were over 800 production EXCESS BOSS 302 motors sold thru Fred Jones Ford that were DIZE motors slated for the 71 Mustangs"....

    thats better....

    So far it seems there were some "BOSS 302's" available in 71 but the question remains did the factory let them out with a few cars or could it have been a special order...
  • y2ktrdy2ktrd Member Posts: 81
    COOL!i run 89 in mine but they are designed to run on 87 with no problems.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    C:
    No, you were right the first time. The 64 1/2 Mustang had the 260 in it. A guy I went to school with had one. My brother had a 260 in a 63 Comet and we raced at at Great Meadows, NJ. My 61 Corvette and his 63 Comet.

    Vince:
    Don't get on spoog too bad, Ill only lacks big hills.

    spoog:
    You make it out with that Tacoma for hunting season last year?
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Looks like you posted an Edmunds competitor
  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    and declare there are true 'FORD' men among you, with history and knowledge of the days of "muscle car" thunder. I shall thread with more respect when I enter this forum and know now there are beholders of the powerful 302's, 351's and the unforgetable 289's....I withdraw quietly.....for now....
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    My bad on the 260 vs. 265 (incorrect displacement). What can I say? I didn't even grace the world with my presence until the '70s. JK, JK.

    Hey! Don't knock IL. I live there too. We've got corn fields, bean fields, and some other fields too. Need some more snow to fall, though. It makes for great fun with the toys.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Member Posts: 241
    Congrats on the Tacoma purchase. I will do you well and is in my OPINION the best choice. I have 20k on my 98 and no shake, rattle, recall or roll. I run Super (93) in mine. I have a gas card from my employer, so cost is not an issue...

    Enjoy
    -wsn
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Somewhere in the dark areas of my mind I seem to recall the short lived. . .

    220cid V8?!?
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    mod:
    Well, I think I made a mistake and was refering to the 352 preceeding the 390. Help me out here. . .

    cthomp:
    Well, Ill is also famous for ... Hillery...?

    Ah well I will just settle for Colorado. This New Jersey boy knows what he likes.

    Trust me, after you get use to the low humidity, ya DREAD going back to it.
    Actually, all the cars I own, with the exception of the Ranger, run very badly when we take them to a humid area. The Chrysler was surging, chugging and just running very badly in Mo. but the Ranger ran fine in San Diego.

    I use the 85 octane regular, it runs the best, in the Ranger 4.0. I think that is the same as the 87 octane in the rest of the country. I have tried the midgrade and in my opinion, get minimal increase in power and the gas mileage drops a mile or two. Have no idea why it does that, but it does. As long as it does not knock, I am happy and the truck is happy. I am coming up on 25K and as I understand it I MAY have to take the MAF sensor out and spray it down with carb cleaner to preclude missing/sputtering. Seems the wires in the sensor tend to attract crud. It seems to be running fine now. Have to clean the engine, lots of accumulated dust/dirt from being off-road.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Got a super deal on a Canon color scanner at Circuit City. 70 bucks after rebate for their USB 1200X1200 scanner.
    Now I can scan just the pics I want to have scanned.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    To clean your mass air, use contact cleaner to avoid any sort of chemical build-up. Make sure not to touch it either. If I remember correctly from cleaning mine, you need to access it from the opposite direction of the air flow. The filament has a shield facing the direction of the intake.

    Make sure to disconnect your battery for 30mins after cleaning. This will reset the computer, and it will "relearn" how to run with optimal efficiency.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    But, premium fuel also burns hotter and more completely. It will cause less build-up.

    To anyone running low octane gas, make sure to run a bottle of fuel system cleaner through every couple of months or so. Low-grade gas also contains more impurities, which can clog fuel injectors and cause build-up in the rest of the fuel system.

    I have also experimented with diferent grades of gas in my truck. I've found performance, efficiency, and how smoothly the engine runs to be best when running premium fuel. I've got no choice with my car, though. It's "premium fuel only".
  • benz88benz88 Member Posts: 42
    For my 2000 Taco I use regular Mobil gas, seems to work just fine. I would prefer Chevron, but I can't get it out here. If I run fuel cleaner, I make sure to run it on a long highway trip.

    I am really pleased with the mileage compared to my Wrangler.
  • devontiedevontie Member Posts: 35
    I owned a 1998 Tacoma SR5 4cyl. 2wd Auto. sold it with 27,000Mi. ran great never had to take it in for service great truck. I now own a 2000 Ranger 3.0 6 cyl Auto. have it since 11/13/99 has 5300 mi. I like the way it handles and rides much more then the Tacoma,both have about the same amount of pep, however I had to take my Ranger back to the dealer 7 times so far because of pulling to one side or the other. I have another appt. Tuesday and have my fingers crossed. I like the Ranger better but if this continues the Tacoma wins overall. If I can keep it out of the service the Ranger wins hands down. Stay tuned.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    Old wifes tale. Not only does regular fuel burn hotter than premium but if you run a higher octane fuel than needed it will cause more build up due to an incomplete burn and less power. Think about it, a higher compression engine or one with more total ignition timing needs a higher octane fuel. Why? Because a lower octane fuel will ignite too quickly causing preignition. A higher octane fuel will burn slower allowing more timing, compression etc. Any major brand of gasoline uses the same detergents and additives in all their grades of fuel, the only difference is the anti knock index or octane. The off brand or independent stores I will admit scare me. I repeat, use the lowest octane fuel your vehicle will run on with out knocking and try to stay with major brands.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    I'm gonna have to go with my own personal experience here. I get better mileage/performance with a smoother running engine while using premium fuel. Higher octane fuels have longer, more complete burns.

    Resetting your computer (disconnecting the battery for 30mins on a Ranger, don't know about a Tacoma) should allow you to take advantage of the benefits (power & efficiency) of premium fuel, if it is somehow decreasing performance when using it. The engine management system will adjust ignition timing for max power and efficiency as it "relearns".

    Ditto on staying with major brands. You don't know what you're getting from the tanks of those "ma & pa" gas stations.

    My bad on the hotter/colder low/high octane. I guess I had a brain fart and typed it backwards.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    If your truck is pulling during braking, there might be some air bubbles in the hydraulic lines. Make sure they bleed the brakes.

    If it's pulling all of the time and you've had the front end realigned, are you sure that you're accounting for the crown of the road and/or crosswinds? I can almost psych myself into thinking that until I realize that the trees alongside the road are blowing all over the place.

    Another thing you might do is make sure the air pressure is equal on the front tires (rears too actually). Then, check for any possible surface irregularities. I personally don't like the Firestones and will probably swamp them for some BF Goodrich AT's in the future.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    A defective or just an oddly built tire can cause issues to.

    1. Check for odd wear on the tires. If your out of align, they will wear.

    2. Rotate tires every 5000 miles. See if the pulling continues.

    3. If the tires are the Firestones, well, all bets are off. They serve one purpose, it puts some rubber between the rims and the road. My BF Goodrich tires are running GREAT. 11K and they hardly look like they have warn, the pieces of rubber between the lugs are still there.

    OHHHH! A BENT or distorted rim could cause it to drift also. And a badly out of balance tire on one corner. Have them check the runout and balance.

    Oil:
    Well disagree with the ones who do not like it. I have run it since around 14K, have 24.5K now. It quieted the engine, runs a bit cooler, and as I understand it, is quite superior to regular oil causing much less engine wear (if there is wear).
    I really like it in the engine and synthetic in the tranny, xfer case and differentials.

    I talk on Ranger sites with people that have run synthetic for 20K, 30K up to 100K. No problems, minimal engine wear.

    It is the way to go.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Is it not? Seems to me my dad and grand dad had them in their 61 and 63 Chrysler Newports.

    God, dating myself. . .

    There is always the Ford 239cid flathead V8. . .

    Had one of them too.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    Don't know Chryslers so it could of been. The Ford 361 was only available in the '58-'59 Edsels and '58 Police interceptors. It used the 3.30" stroke of the 332/352 but used the larger 4.05 bore to be used in the '61 390.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Member Posts: 241
    I've been doing the reg oil every 3k thus far with no problems. If i was to switch to mobile 1, what would be the intervale to change it? Is it still 3k or is it greater?

    -wsn
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    I use a 5,000 mile change cycle for the engine oil.
    If you try it, you SHOULD notice a change in any engine noise and also I noticed a slight drop in engine rpm to somewhere around 700 rpm at idle. As I recall it was around 900 rpm.

    Can anyone answer my previous question on how to tell the differential size in a Toyota?
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    Cspounser-


    Checking out your kids Toyota, eh C?
    Your best bet is to go out and run it in the hills for a bit. Also, take a tire off the front set and admire the superior engineering concerning the brakes.



    Cthompson---

    "If your truck is pulling during braking, there
    might be some air bubbles in the hydraulic lines.
    Make sure they bleed the brakes."



    This isn't exactly common. It's also a sign of lack of quality.


    "If it's pulling all of the time and you've had the
    front end realigned, are you sure that you're
    accounting for the crown of the road and/or
    crosswinds? I can almost psych myself into
    thinking that until I realize that the trees
    alongside the road are blowing all over the place. "



    Come on. What person can't tell the difference between their truck pulling and the wind pushing? Give me a break.

    My new Tacoma has never done this, and my old Toy 22re never did it in 170k miles.



    Another thing you might do is make sure the air
    pressure is equal on the front tires (rears too
    actually). Then, check for any possible surface
    irregularities. I personally don't like the
    Firestones and will probably swamp them for some BF
    Goodrich AT's in the future
  • mviglianco1mviglianco1 Member Posts: 283
    I hope this helps with you diff question. I asked your question at the Tacoma Territory discussion and got a response in about 10 minutes.It is a great place for info on Toyota trucks in general, not just Tacomas.

    http://www.off-road.com/toyota/4_axles.html
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    Oh wow! That sure is great material to add to the discussion. I'll bet it helps the guy figure out what is wrong with his truck. Gimme a break. Your immaturity and ignorance shine through once again (as usual).

    If you have something useful or relevant to share about fixing a problem, please do. If not, put your hands in your pockets and keep them off the keyboard.
  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    Here's what this happy Ford Ranger (w/Mazda badge) owner had to say:

    "Hi all-
    I owned a pre-Ford Mazda (1990)--best little
    truck I ever owned. I mean it all the abuse an 18
    year-old could throw at it (including irregular
    oil
    changes-once a year if I remember correctly) and
    seemed to ask for more!!! As a matter of fact, my
    father still uses it as a work horse truck.
    However....the 1999 I purchased four months
    ago is a completely different story. The worst
    part, I guess, is that I can not find another
    idiot
    stupid enough to buy it from me--even at $2,000
    below what Edmunds recommends and $6,000 below
    MSRP.
    As a warning to other drivers of this piece
    of junk, the driver's side airbag will go off when
    making an 8mph left hand turn into a parking lot
    if
    you slide on sand and impact the curb with the
    right front tire!!! Better yet...it will cause
    over $2500 worth of damage to the INTERIOR of your
    truck (steering wheel, horn, airbag, etc.)Not to
    mention, it hurts like &*@#!!!! Been in
    'bar-room'
    brawls and received punches that did not compare
    to that airbag!!! Apparently this is a real
    problem for MAZDA because most of the parts needed
    for repair are on national back-order!!! The
    truck
    has been in the repair shop 'awaiting parts' for
    over a month now!!!
    Also, could anyone enlighten me as to what
    *bright* engineer decided it would be a good idea
    to ‘hard-wire' the air-conditioning's compressor
    into the vent control system... The stupid
    compressor runs continuously even if the heat is
    on
    or if you try to turn on the vents only. Does
    wonders for the gas mileage and horse-power not to
    mention that it produces lukewarm air at best!!!
    Does the B2500 even come with a suspension
    system... I bet the old horse and buggy deals on
    dirt roads provided a smother ride than my
    *superiorly engineer* 1999 Mazda!!!
    I WILL WALK BEFORE I WASTE MY MONEY ON
    ANOTHER ONE OF THESE THING!!!!"

    Ouchhhh, the quality really shines through...
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    That post sounds a bit self serving. Since I am a Ford "basher" as some have said, maybe I should
    applaud that post. In all honesty that post is unfair and unwarranted drivel that some are
    predisposed to subject us to that vile rhetoric spewed from some belligerent juvenile.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    If there was an auto maker out there that could produce 100% flawless vehicles that would last hundreds of thousands of miles with no problems, everybody would buy their cars & trucks.

    Unfortunately, this doesn't exist. Every auto maker produces lemons. That guy appearantly had one, although some of his complaints seem to be inherent characteristics of his truck (ride, compressor switching on) that should have made themselves known that they weren't to his liking when test-driving the vehicle. Go figure, the airbag deploys when hitting something. I personally think that airbags (from any manufacturer) cause more injuries than they prevent. We should at least be able to disconnect them if we so choose, but it is against the law.

    So, one "lemon" (if you would even call it that) in about 500,000 (ranger & mazda) trucks sold is supposed to make them all terrible? Hmmm... I think your sample might be just a bit limited to make any assumptions.
  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    whether I rent one or drive a friends who has one I get a very negative feedback. It is NOT a good experience, my friends complain of transmission problems/terrible dealer service/little things breaking (and these are not work trucks). Things that you wouldn't expect until 3-5 years (40k-80) start happening right after they buy it, and these are Ford lovers who take care of their trucks. Yes, they haul more/and farther but Ford needs to raise up the level of quality and design/textures before it reaches the level on Toyotas. I drive them every chance I get, just waiting and hoping for the day they start getting back to quality so I can buy one. I'm not bashing as you call it because I have always love/respected Ford for some of the best engines/power but they need to worry about the rest of the truck and especially the 4X4 tranny............
  • spoogspoog Member Posts: 1,224
    You know what you speak of. Keep up the good posts.

    Lets not forget RedDogs when Ford tried to get away with putting the EScort brakes on the Full size 150's. My buddies who still work in the trades go in every 4 months for brake jobs. Either the rotors are always wearing, or something else is up. My good friend actually just sold his f150 and bought a Dodge Ram. So far, the Ram has proved far more reliable.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    That will help.

    Oh! could not help but see this in the article:
    "The 8-inch Toyota axles are strong and utilize a third-member setup, much like the 9-inch Ford."

    Hmmm, Ford has an 8.8 inch. . .

    reddog:
    Where are you getting these un-named posts?

    spoog:
    I DID notice that, while the Toy has 6 lugs, they seem to be a bit smaller in diameter than the 5 I have. It is a nice truck, uses a bit of oil, but he likes it. Waiting for the back roads to open to try it out with my Ranger.

    Reddog:
    Well to answer one question, the climate control can be turned to the LEFT to get non-A/C. However I agree with the post that having the A/C on in many positions is strange. That is a trend in new cars, not just the Ford. I LIKE a bit of air circulation and if given a choice, like cooler air. Keeps you alert.

    Just a thought. When he runs the A/C, turn that big knob from red to blue. Runs cooler that way. Mine is measured at about 39 degrees full cold. Spec is 40 degrees.

    The other stuff, do not know what to say. I could go to some of the Toy rooms and post only the bad stuff said. That is EASY. I choose, however, to try to find info, good and bad, on both trucks.

    Brakes:
    One other thing. If a caliper is hanging, which could happen, the newer ones for most cars and trucks have a plastic cyl., and overheating could deform them. Just a guess.

    If there is not adverse tread wear, the problem is not the align. I have beat my on mountain roads and the first alignment needed nothing and the second only required minor adjustments. And it runs very true. Going for it's third align next week I think.

    Guess I got the only Ranger that has not had problems.
  • trenttrent Member Posts: 86
    I've done my own fluid changes,etc. so I have not seen the dealer since I bought my Ranger. I keep thinking surely some small item will come up that I need to go in for but I guess I got the only other Ranger with no problems.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Member Posts: 1,611
    Well mine has been in for the intermittent wipers and door chime alarm. I do all my fluids too, save a reciept just in case.

    Got a question. Got a letter from American Bankers Insurance Co. for an extended warrenty. $715 takes the vehicle up to 6 years 100K. That seems much better than the one offered by Ford ($1,200). Covers the full drivetrain, engine, electrical, suspension, A/C, fuel delivery, 4X4 xfer case, water pump, valve seals, really the whole nine yards.

    Anyone heard of it? Good deal/bad deal?

    Just checked everything tonight. Going to change oil more than likely next weekend, coming up on 25K but still at full, no need to add any. The KKM filter is looking a bit dirty. Should check the paperwork and see if I should clean it too.

    The major service is at 30K. You lube the drive shaft yoke, and a bunch more service.

    Well trent, does that mean we can get a premium for a good running Ranger? I do not even have the chugging that sometimes comes with a dirty MAF. I have read that it could happen at 20-25K.
  • smcpherrsmcpherr Member Posts: 114
    I thought I read somewhere that the AC Compressor is used to dehumidify the air being blown into the vehicle. Anyone who has jumped into a cold vehicle and had the windows instantly fog up (as it does to me every morning) should realize the benefit of this feature. It helps keep the windshield fog-free so that you can actually drive the vehicle before the heaters fully warm up.
  • reddogsreddogs Member Posts: 353
    The extended warranty would be good if ...Bankers Insurance Co. made the car, but every time I took in a car and tried to get it repaired under
    "extended warranty", the dealers would say "its not covered". The dealers hate it because the warranty work pays so little, so its even below "recall" work in terms of importance to the dealer and you have to fight them hard for even legitimate drivetrain or electrical problems. They always come up with the "its not covered", then "user abuse", take it to certified ......Bankers Insurance Co. shop, etc....
  • hindsitehindsite Member Posts: 590
    Before you jump on my back you should have read my post. I was not putting down the Ranger. If you just see Tacoma owner and have a problem with that you should get a life.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    My post wasn't bashing you. In fact, it wasn't bashing anybody. It was in reference to the post you were replying to about a single case where someone was unhappy with their truck and bashing it on the internet.

    I think that posting articles like these for either the tacoma or ranger is nonsense. There will always be a lemon story that you can find on any vehicle on the internet.

    Oh, and I have a life. Thanks for the advice.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Member Posts: 1,102
    I guess I have to join you on being unlucky enough to have no problems with my ranger too. It's a 98, and the only complaint I've got is a slightly rattly sliding rear window latch.

    Oh, I also perform all of my own maintenance. I plan on purchasing a Gibson cat-back real soon. $278 from www.carparts.com. Anybody know of a cheaper source (this is the price for aluminized, stainless is $375)?
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