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Toyota Tundra vs. Nissan Titan
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Some people have said they don't like it because it is much thinner than a Rhino or other aftermarket and they figure it might not be as strong against dents. I guess being thinner it wouldn't make the dimensions of the box smaller, although this would be a very small advantage. Also, it is computer sprayed so the consistency would be better than having a person spray it.
I got it with my Titan but I really didn't have any choice. It comes standard on the SE in Canada (as does the utility system).
It was developed out of a need for high bed protection but also compatibility with the company's tie-down channel system.
The bedliner is applied after the truck has been painted and resists gauging by tools, shovels or sharp objects placed in the truck. Since it has a non-skid surface, bed cargo will not move around during transit.
Because it does not "sit" on top of the bed, rust will not develop beneath it like traditional drop-in bedliners, it also avoids road noise and vibration and dampens sounds unlike drop-in units.
The weatherproof bedliner is factory applied and therefore warranted by Nissan. The company plans to sell repair kits in the event something does scratch or gouge the bedliner.
Now dont get me wrong, I have a Toyota DC on order and I love the Toyota over the Titan, I am just posting this for Titan fans benefit
And as far as toyota marketing the DC as a workhorse, It is indeed to the average Joe, sure if you have a hugh travel trailer or load/pull often, then you may want to consider another vehicle for this purpose. Now I am not saying the DC will not perform loads/pulls, but for my needs this foots the bill exactly. I am an avid Hunter/Sportsman I dont own a trailer, boat, or anything that needs to be pulled, so in this case the DC is perfect for me. The Limited/Leather option just adds that extra touch of class.
But 3/4 ton and up go for more money anyway (vs. a 1/2 ton), regardless of make.
I would still go with the Toyota because of it's better build quailty and longer lasting engines over the Titan.
i understand that no vehicle is perfect, especially a first year model, but after hearing your rants from before, i dont buy your stories for a second...nothing personal.
I wouldn't pick one truck over another based on MPG. Both are terrible. Base the choice on your top three vehicle priorities. For me it's reliability, comfort and utility. The best combo of these for me is the Tundra. If MPG is a top priority, then you should not be considering either vehicle.
I went to the local auto show and one of the dealers beat the lowest quote on the Titan by about another $300. I'm a happy guy. My new truck arrives in about 6-8 weeks. ..and that's how they stacked up for me.
I made a similar decision in '99 to go for the options over quality. I chose a Jeep over an Infiniti and still regret it. All those options are nice, as long as they work. Don't underestimate the value of quality. I hope you have better luck than I did. Enjoy your Titan!
Nice choice. Enjoy your Tundra.
Did you get all of those features on the Titan for $30,655? How much was nissan going to go under msrp? Did you negotiate Toyota price, or just compare sticker prices? I realize stickers are about the same, but from my experiences, nissan just didn't want to get the price low enough for my business. Toyota did.
I like both trucks, but because I got a better deal on the Tundra DC, I went with it. Enjoy your titan.
if they don't, who would they farm that out to, maybe Cat?
I was thinking that VW's upcoming v10 Turbodiesel in the Touregg would be a good opportunity for Nissan to get an already engineered diesel into their HD truck quickly.
daughes...
are you guys working on longer wheelbase platforms?
I would like to see what they have in the stable.
Don't get me wrong, Toyotas are fine. I own an '03 Corolla and have owned several Toys in the past including 2 4X4 mini-trucks, but if you look at Tundra's load hualing ability you gotta laugh. With 2 "full-sized" trucks and a decades long track record of underachieving it's hard to believe that the legendary CAR maker is going to build a HEAVY DUTY truck.
Bob
Sometimes we see T100s and Tundras on job sites but they are almost never owned by contracters nor are they heavily loaded.
In the 3 years I've owned my 2500HD I've had 5-600lbs over the 2900 max payload in it at least a dozen times and still had plenty (3-4 inches) of spring travel.
If I was hualing mountian bikes or the occasional refrigerator Toyota might well top my list like it does for commuter cars but I'm not likely to start thinking of them as the builder of Heavy Duty trucks till I see a few of them overworked.
But that's just my opinion and nothing else
kip
Comparing a Tundra to a Chevy HD 3/4 ton is not comparing apples-to-apples. Compare it to a 1500 Silverado, and I'm sure it will compare quite favorably. BTW, I'm sure most of the work trucks you see at construction sites are 3/4 tons, and not 1/2 tons, regardless of brand. Also, the Tundra is not marketed as a HD truck. It's marketed like most 1/2 tons, which is mainly as a personal use truck.
Bob
He mentioned his 2500HD only as an example of when his truck is loaded past the recommended weight that he still has 3-4 inches of spring travel. He isn't comparing a 2500 to the Tundra. That would be pointless.
Ever hear of jounce bumpers?
I don't know; but I do believe all truck makers build in some extra cushion in terms of payload ratings, because they know from experience that owners will from time to time overload their trucks.
Ever hear of jounce bumpers?
I've heard of them, but I'm not exactly certain as to what they are. I'm assuming they are some sort of cushion so that when the truck get overloaded, they act as some sort of buffer, so that the springs don't bottom out?
Bob
Most pickups at construction sites are 1/2 ton and our '94 Dodge V6 regularly carried much more than it's rated payload. MY PERSONAL GMC 2500HD was bought for recreational use and except for the few times I've used it hualing materials to my own properties it's only used to tow a 7200 lb boat and the one I towed with the Taco. I drive a Corolla to work where I have use of the V6 Dodge.
I know one time, when I had wood higher than the cab, i did hit the tires once. Not a good thing. I didn't do that again. I had a 8-foot bed.
If you're carrying that much weight, you're overloading it. No Titan is rated to carry that much.
Bob
Best regards,
kip