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Congrats on the order placement. Sounds like a great rig, and that your're being treated right by the guys in Belfast. Windchill in Brunswick on Monday was -35.
quikdraw-
All Super Duty trucks are assembled at the Kentucky Truck Plant in (I think) Lexington.
Dave
00 4x4 F250 Lariat V8 CC SWB 4.10LS Capt Chairs PwTT
Drk Win Slider HD suspension 265AT Woodland Green
It's mighty cold here north of Atlanta tonight. Gonna be 22 with a wind chill of about 5. Gotta bring in all the sissy dogs. At least none of them weigh 1300#.
Good idea about IDing these dealers. Mine's Jacky Jones Ford in Cleveland, GA. Good folks and they move a lot of trucks. Can't wait.
rnewman: thanks for th update on the lights. I'm going to Autozone as soon as I get caught up at work and can goof around a little. Gotta get the toys ready.
quickdraw: If that baby keeps you up, at least you can sleep in the truck. That back seat is huge! I've had sofas smaller than that. I love it. I might even ride back there if "she who must be obeyed" wants to drive.
New Red:
250 CC,V10,4x4,Power TT,3.73LS, auto,265s,clearcoat red, XLT,camperpkg.,trailer pkg., off road pkg.,privacy glass/sliding rear, SB. ordered 10/19/99, Jacky Jones Ford, Cleveland, GA. build week sch. 2/7/00. I'm impatient, but no real hurry as long as ol'Red is running good. 115,000 on 5.0, no oil use.
Brutus- What did this plow mavin look like? Long pony tail? Apple cheeks? We are all cut from the same bolt...
Hopefully you get the 2-tone stuff figured out.. I would think that you could get the lariat without 2-tone if you wanted.. You can change your order as long as your VOPC status (you'll use later on) isn't 'locked in'..
csurp: On ride height.. The SuperDuty is a tall truck in any configuration..
The 4x2 F250 SuperDuty is about the same height as the average F150 4x4.
The 4x4 F250 SuperDuty adds another 2in..
The F350 4x4 SuperDuty is slightly taller yet, (bring your O2 mask).. This is likely because the truck doesn't sag as much on the springs..
There are slight differences in height (less than 1") depending on whether you get Regular cab, Super Cab, CrewCab.. Again due to the weight of the truck..
99 F250 SD, CC, SWB, 4X4, V-10, Auto, 4.30LS
Five Star Ford in Scottsdale AZ... I would die and go to hell before I would buy from them again.
Yesterday was 80 degrees with the wind chill factor. I guess I better dust off my swimming trunks!
Looking at my DORA, I see that it specifies only Toreador Red, and does not specify any accent color. I also went to www.fordvehicles.com and configured my truck there. At the spot where it asked for the accent color, I just left it blank, and it configured it just fine.
Hopefully, I won't be suprised when the truck shows up, cause my wife really wants a solid color. I would go back to your dealer and ask specifically about this. I'll drop mine an email as well and verify that I am getting what I think I am getting.
Hey, all you "haves", any of you got a Lariat without accents?
The moral of the story is: Make sure you see a DORA, and not a Vehicle Order Confirmation screen print from the dealer. I have a nice copy of the order confirmation, in Woodland Green, complete with the bottom line which said "Press F4 to submit." I guess Gwinnett Place Ford (Atlanta) forgot to hit the F4 key!
Now that I have it, I'm glad the manager messed the order up. The dark red is NICE!
(SD SC V10 auto LB)
My favorite bumper sticker, of late, has nothing to do with SuperDuty trucks, but I guess we could adapt it:
"Honk if you've seen an automatic weapon fired from a moving pickup truck!" My police friends love it!
Anyway, if your VIN begins with 1F, your truck was built in Kentucky. If it begins with 3F, it was built in Mexico. Ford recently began assembling Super Duties in Mexico to help reduce the the size of the order queue.
Go back and check out the Kelly Blue Book site (www.kbb.com) and look at all the colors available for your Lariat.
I counted 17 different color options. 9 solid colors, 8 two-tone colors combos. It's only with the Lariat that they have special two-tone combos. The bottom color is either black or gold depending on the base color.
If you wanted the DT Red, then the color code is JM. For two-tone the choice is DT red/BlK, order code JM/UD. And you have to pay extra for the two-tone option, code 954 at $47. DI. So forget the brochure the salesdude gave you and just tell him the color you want.
I personally have the Oxford White solid color with my '00 250 CC,SB,V10, Lariat. It matches my boat easily. Swanson Ford, Los Gatos, CA.
The thing I like best about this site is that you can make dumb mistakes and nobody calls you on it. I'm ok now!
By the way, has anyone seen a Lariat with the Dk. Toreador Red and lower black accent? Is it nice? Woodland Green is definitely my second choice.
this is what stopped me from taking that accent with Harvest gold. Thats just my impression, I am sure lots of people like the black on the bottom.
John
SHARP LOOKING RIG!!
John
You can ask your dealer to alter your order and ask for the 'Priced DORA' option (I don't remember the exact option number, saw it in one of the Ordering Information threaded on www.ford-diesel.com ). The DORA is returned via Ford's messaging system to the dealer within a few days.
I've asked my dealer to do this (since they appear to not use DORAs) and haven't heard if they've received it yet (asked Tuesday afternoon 1/18). According to one of the responses in ford-diesel, it can take a few days (but if the truck was really ordered on the 11th, the DORA should be available if the dealer uses them).
Have you been able confirm your order via VOPC (ie, calling VOPC at least tells you clean and unscheduled, unserialized)?
GOOD LUCK TO ALL.
Sorry folks but I just could not resist, its the Harvest Gold thing I guess, Sorry again just trying for a few smiles.
Mainecowgirl:
congrats on the order, now the sweating about the "what ifs?" and "should I have ordered?" get to start. Hummmm matching colors for Truck, Trailer, Barn, that scares me
-5 Man you folks really do have winter, I don't think the lakes and ponds will ever freeze around here or there will ever be good snow for skiing.
P.S. I think you are very right about snow plowing women, Had friend who drove plow on Loveland Pass for CDOT, you just described her to a T.
Lilemo:
Are you calling my little pony Fat??
She is just big boned
Thanks to those who helped with the swapping of manual 99 TT mirrors for extendable manual 00 TT mirrors, they do bolt right up, BUT, and there always is one, the local dealer wants $400/pr, a little steep for no wires or servos.
Have fun
Cowpokes
Schmitt Bros. Ford, Port Washington,WI. undecided if I would ever order another one from them.
Thanks.
'During Your Order' talks all about VOPC, how to call, numbers you need, and, most importantly, guideliness for use (of which the primary one is never, never, never talk to a real person, if you get one... hang up and place your call again
IMO, Edmunds Town Hall is good but ford-diesel.com is great
the gassers...
The recording appears to say foreign assembly plant but it may also consider Kentucky 'foreign'
Check your VIN (don't need a door post or anything). VIN is available before the truck is built. As I recall, VIN starting with '1' is KTP while VIN starting with '3' is Mexico.
mainecowgirl, one thing I learned a long time ago was not to comment on women's weight or appearance. I have absolutely no comment as to what the female city plow driver looked like.
I would love to see photo's of your rig. You have a web site you can post them at?
Thanks to everyone for answering the question on my "foreign truck".
Wgilmartin you are right. I am second guessing everything, but that's probably why I went with the Lariat in the first place. If you have everything, you can't wish you had something! I think your choice of Woodland Green is a good one. That's a beautiful color and in Florida you shouldn't have the winter problem of salt!
Brutus- Would love to see your truck. I'll bet in these parts there are maybe a half dozen F250's in a 40 mile radius. Or at least it seems that way. I never get a chance to drool. Chevy's seem to be the truck of choice. They are a dime a dozen. I can't wait to get my truck and be taller than all of 'em!
jraske- I am still really undecided on the lower black accent. My dealer said he saw one of the Harvest Gold/Black 250's and was surprised how much he liked it. I can see your point though about it looking like its lower half is missing. I'm thinking that the darker maroon on top might not give quite the same optical effect...I hope!
cowpokes- My barn is not painted those colors! I'm not that over the top. When you event you usually wear your "colors" when you are doing cross-country jumping...all the other disciplines have you dressed in black and white. Anyway, I just like the look of a (somewhat) matching rig (truck AND trailer) hauling down the road. Vanity, I know. I know.
I'm sure she figured out that your SD was just the newest member of the family. Where I live, I can only have a bunch (3) of dirty, slobbering old dogs right now. Together, they weigh about 250#.
as to the leather-in an earlier discussion, several reported that the leather/fake leather was easier to clean/keep clean than the cloth. Do note that the back seat is fake leather or at least part fake...
adubahbi--I have been told that there is storage behind the rear seat in the CC. ie like in the 150's(old).
still waiting but then I didn't order until Dec....
2K SD 250 CC LB 4x4 island blue w/ gold tow etc....
Wgilmartin - Hey, when you get that beast, let us know the 0-60 on it. Also curious to know how you like it for around town driving.
Mainecowgirl - If I had..if I hadn't. So far, I've changed from running boards to none, 2-tone to none, slider and privacy glass to none (will tint after market), droped cab clearance lights, added power seats, changed the color three times, and now I'm second guessing the rear end (3.73 v. 4.30). Hey, you can always change back! Started with Silver, then Desert Gold, then Torredor Red. Saw the Torredor Red with dark tinted windows. Really looked good with the black up top so I went with it. Personnally, I like the two tone black. Wanted it with the Desert Gold but not available in XLT. Dealer suggested just having the body shop add it after the truck comes in. He was going to price it for me, but I changed my mind too fast. I think it makes the truck look even higher than it is! Now that's intimidating. Hang in there, I'm waiting with ya! Ordered 1-3, Mel Clayton Ford, Phx, AZ. Really nice! Very helpful, good price, no deposit. Dora in 2 days. Highly recommend Larry Hindon.
mainecowgirl....leather will take 10 times the beating that the cloth interior will. I posted a couple of forums back that I have 2 LARGE Great Danes....and we have leather furniture in the house. I was skeptical on spending the money on it but the people we got one of the pups from assured me I would be happy. I am....!!! Plus the leather does not soak in any odor and if you spill something on it it does not soak in either. Happened to leave my windows down on my 97 F150 about a month before trade in....big rain storm...completely soaked my seats....WHAT A STINK!!!!......well my 2 cents worth anyway....
Lew...buddy....what can I say....AMAZING!!
John
adubahbi, there is about the same amount of room behind the CC rear as the front seat of a standerd cab, there is a small tray behind the the seat for storage, and enough room to add a cab mount storage tray to use for additional storage.
sangerplr: Maybe it was your truck I saw on El Camino Real near Los Altos when I was in that neighborhood week of Dec 13th. I didn't see too many SDs in that area, and I was stuck with a rental.
Cargo area behind seat: There is a pretty good sized space behind the CC rear seat to hold quite a bit of stuff. It is larger than the space I had behind the rear seat of my 91 f150 reg cab by quite a bit.
Haven't had any time to look at ALL our local parts stores. BUT ---- with brand and part number in hand, I should be able to make some progress. THANKS AGAIN!!
Paul
I saw an SD regular cab short bed V10 once. I wonder how fast that monster can do. It must only weighs 3500 lbs?
When I ordered mine I was told I would have about two weeks to make changes, I tryed to change from a XLT to a Lariat after only one week and was told I was too late. Not a big deal I got all the other options. When I ordered my beast I got the dora two days later and knew what my build and delivery dates were the first week, once my build date was set they would not let me make any changes. In a way I am glad I didn't get the Lariat.
John
so my layout is 00 cc 4x4 Lariat SD HD suspension,
4x4 off road, cold climate, roof lights, dark wind/slider, towing/hitch,capt chairs,cd,power TT,(so many trucks with new snowmobile trailers and they can't see behind them.)4.10LS,265 OWL AT,and the 5.4 V8 with A.R.E. Z-series Cap & Full wrap around Brush Guard...all at a $149 under invoice price.
Schmitt Bros. Ford, Port Washington,Wisconsin
Mainecowgirl, others: Info I've read states vinyl rear seat on the Lariat? Is this correct?
I've seen numerous horror stories about how long it takes to get a SD after it's ordered -- does this seem to be any better or worse for orders made in recent weeks? I haven't really talked to any dealers yet (still in the "planning" stages - I'm sure many of you married guys know what I mean!) -- and most of the SD's I see on the lots around here (southern MN) seem to be PSD's, but I'm leaning toward the V-10.
Current dream config: 250 CC 4x4, SWB, XLT or Lariat(?), V-10, auto, 3.73, TTow/Hitch/Camper pkg, captains chairs, Harvest Gold. Probably later this year before we get around to doing anything. Anyone know about cutover from '00 to '01 models? I though I read something that Dodge was building or ready to begin building '01s??
I read a post about deleting the factory cab steps from an order. I debated about the factory steps to the point that I tried to delete, but was too late. I happy with them now. I worried about the looks, but find that they are pretty unobtrusive. They are certainly hard to beat for positive footing, and are easy to hit in the dark. FWIW, I'm happy with 'em.
Storage behind crew cab back seat is "enough". I've got a handy man jack, winter survival gear (sleeping bag, beaver skin gloves and hat, insulated coveralls, stove), spotlight (for those dark night flat tires), and small food stash back there with plenty of room to spare.
Dealer: Nye Frontier Ford Wasilla Alaska, Michael Lagg/Randy Frank in Commercial Dept. A little over two months from order (10/7) to delivery (12/15). Second truck from them, highly recommend.
DT Red looks great and doen't show dirt nearly as bad as old black F150. Saw 17 SD's on way home from work last night (5 mile trip) with plenty of solid color Lariats. A buddy at work has a new 00 F350 SD 4X4 DRW in Island Blue - awesome color that actually "changes" color in different light conditions.
For those of you waiting, keep hanging in there as it is well worth it.
http://www.ford-diesel.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/001747.html
I'm aware that this is a very lengthy post but it's worth a read because this scenario COULD happen to YOUR truck! here goes the "where is our truck?" saga. the story BEGINS (the vast majority of truck delays are PRIOR to this time) from the build date of 11.27.99. the truck is SUPPOSED to ship from the KTP to the Tampa, FL railhead. we get a vopc message stating: "as of 11.28 your vehicle has been shipped via Conrail Carrier with eta week of 12.6.99." Two weeks later we still have the same message & we of course, have no truck in Tampa. On 12.16.99 the message changes to the following: "As of 12.14 your truck has been shipped (no reference to "Conrail") with eta week of 12.28." A couple of days later the the message changes slightly but the eta remains the same. As of TODAY the vopc message STILL says the same thing.
The dealership requests an investigation into the truck's wheareabouts on Monday past. Ford doesn't "get around" to it until Wednesday. okay. the nearest we all can tell is that the idiot at the end of the KTP line that assigns where the truck goes gets a couple of the numbers in the dealer code transposed. so instead of the truck coming to Tampa it instead goes to some dealer in MICHIGAN! That's why the "Conrail" message (Conrail is a branch of the CSX railroad that ONLY serves the Northern sector of the country. They do NOT serve the Southeast (CSX does that). Had I known this at the time a "bell" would have gone off in my head & I would have notified the dealer right there. But I did not know this until later (when I researched them on the Web). The dealer however; SHOULD have known this right-off that something was very much amiss. however; please read on...
So the truck goes to Michigan. On 12.14 SOMEONE notices that the railcar belongs in Tampa, FL. so off the thing goes to Tampa. It does this via Michigan to Toledo, Ohio via KTP on Conrail. When it arrives at KTP the car is transferred to CSX train. Two weeks later it arrives at Tampa, FL. GREAT!... but not so fast, there. It arrives at 10am on 12.31.99. my, my, the railhead is CLOSED due to the holiday! what to do with the truck... hell, we'll return this railcar to KTP! yep, BACK to KTP it goes. this is during the 1st week of January. When it gets back to KTP, they say: what the hell? this railcar belongs at the xxx railhead in MICHIGAN! (the dealer code obviously was not changed on the railcar at this juncture)!! yep. BACK to Michigan it goes again for the 2nd TIME! Duh??? (probably) the same person who saw it there b4 sees it again! this railcar REALLY does belong in Tampa, FL. so here it goes again. as of yesterday morning the truck was sitting in a rail car at the railhead in Toledo, Ohio! awaiting return to KTP for the 3rd TIME! it probably is there now. so now we wait for the car to arrive at the CSX railhead in Tampa for the 2nd time! and THIS time everybody is looking for it!
And this, my friends is why we've been waiting almost 2 MONTHS AFTER the build and still have not seen our truck! the only fault with the dealer that I can find here is that they did not pick up the "Conrail" message on the vopc early on. But to their benefit we must remember that this is pretty routine stuff for them & they're not getting any calls from the customer (us) about the whereabouts (I'm checking the vopc myself at this time so why should I call them to get the same info?). it is around the 12.15 that I actually contact the dealer inquiring about the whereabouts (it was promised about that time...& no problem up to then as the truck had been built a couple of weeks earlier). it is at that time that they probably listened to the vopc.. but by that time the message had unfortunately changed (to NO message about Conrail being the carrier).
my suggestion: if you're going to have a screw up in destination it will occur right after the build out of KTP ship out because they obviously have some idiots working that area (and I sure the hell hope FORD is reading this message!). VERIFY with your dealer at THAT time (as soon as you have a vopc "shipped" message... which carrier serves YOUR dealers area). You may want to ask them this when you ORDER the vehicle. Then have THEM verify that the correct carrier has the truck when it's shipped out of KTP. And if you hear a DIFFERENT carrier (or NO carrier mention) on that initial announcement CALL your dealer immediately. if they ask why all the "fuss"? just hand them a copy of this (think that's legal... just can't re-post to somewhere else).
tracyo... our config is similar but we've opted for the 4.1 so mileage will suffer slightly when unloaded
mainecowgirl.. good choices.